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The GHB/GBL Addiction & Withdrawal Thread

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Cap'n: Any chemist in the country will have oral syringes in stock - just ask for one and they'll probably not even charge for it. Can say it's for measuring infant ibuprofen or summat for your baby brother or cat or whatever if they ask. Or buy some infant ibuprofen or the like cos they usually come with oral syringes. Easier just to ask though. They're really not dodgy things to ask for. Chemists also usually sell insulin syringes which you could use but they're the ones with needles and will draw more attention. Perfectly legal to but though.

1ml is a good place to test the waters. Go up 0.1ml at a time as mentioned and leave an absolute minimum of an hour between doses. Preferably at least two hours. It lasts around four hours but you may well not feel it after one or two. Redosing too soon will still drop you like a sack of shit though.
 
I always recommend people to dose at least 1.5ml. 1ml will hardly do anything.

1.8ml is a decent strong dose for someone with little tolerance IMO. My starter dose is 2-3ml.
 
I agree with those figures being about right for most folk, Static. But there are also many here who would be KO'd at those doses hence 1ml for noobs.

Also, 2-3ml is an extremely broad range to suggest. Way to high at either end or anywhere in between for the majority.
 
i've known someone to get almost uncomfortably wrecked at 1ml, the stuff has a weird dosage range
 
Thanks Shambles for the info that about covered everything I was wondering. :)

I hear GBL is good with stims. Will I be ok to dose the GBL after some flephedrone?
 
^ GBL was made to mix with stims. Not had fleph but should be good. Although it's not so great with meph oddly enough so maybe not. Speed or MDMA with GBL is a match made in heaven <3

Evad: I've seen a certain BLer take 7ml (think it was even more than that actually but at least 7ml) and remain vertical. Cunted beyond belief but vertical. That's pretty extreme though. Very extreme in fact. And no, it wasn't watered down before anyone says it.
 
GBL was made to mix with stims. Not had fleph but should be good. Although it's not so great with meph oddly enough so maybe not. Speed or MDMA with GBL is a match made in heaven
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I've never had fleph before but I'll try a line of that in the afternoon then take the GBL late at night when I'm done with the fleph. That is how it's usually done dose the GBL after the stims? Or do you mix them throughout the session?
 
Usually dosed on top of/in combo with stims. Just be careful of redosing as it can be hard to tell when you're dosing too high cos the stim masks the sedation. You still go bye-bye if you overdo it though.

*awaits Treacle to chime in on the joys of stims + guice*
 
Shambles said:
Usually dosed on top of/in combo with stims. Just be careful of redosing as it can be hard to tell when you're dosing too high cos the stim masks the sedation. You still go bye-bye if you overdo it though.

*awaits Treacle to chime in on the joys of stims + guice*
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I find when I do too much gbl while on stimulants I have a sort of euphoric-amnesiac fit. Nothing dangerous I don't believe but it ain't pretty and worrying for whoever is looking after you.
 
Euphoric-amnesiac fit is a good description. It's hard to knock yourself out completely unless you really go for it but it's also easy to redose too much or too often and get messy in messy ways. Does feel kinda nice admittedly. Not something you;d want to do at a club or whatever though.
 
GBL "nodding" is pretty unpleasant for me, just twitchy and gross rather than the lovely opiate variety
 
Evad said:
GBL "nodding" is pretty unpleasant for me, just twitchy and gross rather than the lovely opiate variety
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I find the auditory hallucinations before nodding the most annoying bit, and they seem to be what snaps me back to reality. I say reality, obviously I mean being super fucked on GBL.

I have noticed that I am waking up in the mornings with anxiety over the last few days, and a single GBL dose (which is 2.2ml now!) sorts it out, and I am fine for the rest of the day. Could be due to other stresses/drugs mind you. I am dosing semi frequently but no way near 24/7. Have been hitting it, along with nearly every other drug, pretty hard recently. Going to not dose for a few days and hope it subsides...
 
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I tend to agree but there's a sweet noddy spot you get dosing it on stims sometimes which is considerably nicer. I'm not a fan of G-nods/G-spazzing in general though.
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GBL and meph can be the best and worst combination in the world.

It's great when it totally changes the buzz, chills you out. In a way its better than meph. When I've been up all night on meph it tends to kill all sleep deprivation and can also reset me a bit and make meph work again. Gets rid of tweaking etc.

Conversely, it can result in me getting mad head pains and feeling way more tweaked and dodgy. I believe the combination can quite easily lead to you overloading dopamine levels in your brain and as such its dose sensitive.
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GBL "nodding" is pretty unpleasant for me, just twitchy and gross rather than the lovely opiate variety
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Totally agree with you there bro. When I sit nodding on GBL I tend to get anxious and basically feel like I'm being blasted in and out of consciousness. I've started to just go to bed whenever this happens now, fighting it isn't nice. This week I've been hammering GBL and whenever I've dosed a bit much I've just gone into my bed and stuck on some ricky gervais podcasts or chilled out ambient music. I end up getting mad dreams and drift in and out of consciousness...go with the buzz don't fight it :).

I swear that when I sleep on GBL I think existentially and appear to keep listening to the music when asleep lol. Crazy

PS - I've been saying since yesterday morning 'THIS IS MY LAST DOSE OF GBL' but I'm in a vicious circle of benzos > gbl > benzos that keeps thing TICKETY BOOOO. Got about 2.5ml left that I'll hit when this wears off then its finished....
 
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When I nod on GBL I find it the most horrible state I've ever felt.
That's why I'm super cautious as to dose correctly and to not redose in the day.
 
loulou reed said:
When I nod on GBL I find it the most horrible state I've ever felt.
That's why I'm super cautious as to dose correctly and to not redose in the day.
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Word. Really dirty feeling, GHB is only good in low doses, high doses are unpleasant.
 
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