my dear little friend footscrazy,
having gone off and now read a few good articles and a book i feel I am ready to give you, any entertained readers, and this subject the attention it deserves…
i am sure the evolutionary model you are basing this agenda on is the stick insect you learned about in primary school. however what you may not know is that the species would go extinct through it’s own random mutations were it not for the later evolution of sexes, which basically prevents random mutation
i’ll sum this up before i explain it in detail. the theory of random mutation quite simply is not plausible in the real world
first you need a mechanism, maybe a virus, a foreign chemical, mal-nutrition whatever
now you need natural selection
predation. you are assuming that there are predators present, which there may not be, perhaps this animal is the apex predator in it’s environment. without predation the original species and it’s random mutational off-shoots will continue to survive regardless of their mutation, beneficial, neutral, or detrimental providing there is a steady food supply. and there are plenty of examples of species’ coexisting successfully on the same food supply. your statement that there aren’t any freakish animals around today because “they aren’t adaptive” doesn’t cut the mustard in this regard unfortunately because it doesn’t make sense. read this paragraph again if you want an explanation for that
sexual selection. if the mutation is too significant, the animal will most likely be rejected by it’s own species let alone able to live, be sexually accepted by another member of the original species, and reproduce. but if the mutation is not significant enough, all three mutational possibilities will have an equal chance of survival, again leading to chaotic evolution. these two factors alone cancel out the evolutionary model of random mutation, but there is further evidence against it
the mutation regardless of it’s nature may not even be inherited by it’s off-spring, as only one of the mating pare may have had this mutation, so it will be lost to chance. with the sheer number of mutational possibilities (internal and external) getting any sort of consistency in long term evolution would be near impossible
in this imaginary world of yours not only would life have to contend with a changing environment, but also it’s own random mutations. quite simply, life could not be sustained this way
random mutations are accidents which most often work against life, not for it, we know them for the most part as diseases and deformities
you ask things like “how is environmental influence any different to chopping someone’s leg off” and say things like “your genes don’t know what your environment is” which is a pretty clear indication that you just don’t have the necessary base knowledge to understand advanced concepts
But the answer to this for you and any non-erratic people who might be interested is, chopping someone’s leg off isn’t a progressive physiological influence causing an adaptive response (as I did say already…). the condition of life is basically a consequence of movement, bone density, muscle composition, tissue condition is all a consequence of movements within the environment. removing a limb isn’t a chemical process within the body which has caused recession or advance in the genetic range (this is known as atrophy and hypertrophy), it’s just removing a piece of the body - which is obviously no longer communicating with the central nervous system. if there’s no chemical process involved, it will obviously have no effect on the genetic material, which will remain the same
repetition of these movements over lots and lots of generations is what equates to evolution. evolution is such a slow process as the changes to genetic material are marginal, almost irrelevant in a single generation, even a hundred generations which is why your african ring necks have no noticeable inherited condition
i am aware that evolution through natural selection was first proposed by darwin himself. albert einstein believed in god, and hated the idea of chance. the moral of this is even these people can be wrong, they didn't have the knowledge available to them that we do
you go on about you and me, how I don’t understand evolution and am obtuse (none of which equates to a logical argument by the way) which leads me to believe that you’re intimidated by me in some way. you boast about your own intelligence which leads me to believe that you’re compensating for a threat in this regard. maybe you fancy yourself as more intelligent than others and don’t like the idea of someone who understands something you don’t, but I don’t know why, you are just as capable of understanding the same things as me. “you an me” is irrelevant, all that matters is the reality
a lot of the time when someone is insecure about something they will accuse other people of that insecurity to comfort themselves, which is known as pathological lying. which leads me to believe you have a bit of a history of being obtuse yourself (infact you are now)
you do a lot to differentiate yourself from people who believe in god, but you are actually demonstrating the same behaviour as them. infact this reminds me of futile arguments I have seen these people have with atheists such as your self. you’re clinging to a compulsive idea because you emotionally depend on it, by which I mean you will feel “not smart” if you accept that your preconceived ideas of evolution were flawed. but it doesn’t make you not smart, you just weren’t aware of the evidence, none of us are born knowing it all
i don’t think you ever even cared about the reality, i think you are just unconditionally committed to the idea that there is no god because it scares you, you don’t actually understand evolution or make any honest effort to do so, you just regurgitate what you read because it suits your agenda. you are exactly the same as people who believe in god
ignorance combined with arrogance is a bad mix, and is responsible for slowing progress everywhere on the planet. it is a disease fueled by fear
my advice to you would be forget about being an atheist, just be a realistic person. don’t be scared of the truth, whatever it is, just flow with the evidence. have the courage to face every possibility even if you don’t like it and you win every time. if you think you’re right and find out you’re not, who cares, being wrong inevitably leads to the right answer anyway. if you cling to something you're never going to be anything more than you are now
