Ok, got my sample, and well, what can I say, they ain't bad or anything but nothing special either. They don't dissolve easily for plugging (they do, but it's not like you put them in a small amount of water and it's dissolved), don't crush easily for snorting (again, it's doable just not extra easy), I think they hurt a bit less than straight powder (probably the binders used), oral is fine, dose seems 25mg as claimed. Appearance is kinda like the blue vendor made etizolams with a slightly different shade of blue.
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RCs The Ethylphenidate (Ethyl phenyl(piperidin-2-yl)acetate) Megathread V3
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lolwhatzdrugs
Bluelighter
Wow, the gram I received was perfect shards of ice. I would have thought it was that, if it was not for the far shorter duration than meth-amp. I weighed out 45mg, and put them in water without agitating or heating, and then sucked up about 4-5ml of water and plugged it, not all of the crystals had dissolved, so I figured it was more like 30-35mg.
I was not ready for the intensity of the rush.
The first signs in about 2-3 minutes consisted of an incredible nausea, and euphoria. I immediately went to the toilet, because the nausea was at the point where I was pretty damn sure I was about to vomit, and I'm usually pretty good at telling when that stage has been reached and there's no turning back; luckily the super intense nausea passed relatively quickly, about 20-30 seconds, and faded away pretty quickly (I don't remember exactly, but like 4-5 minutes).
I felt more chatty than amp salts, and more euphoric.
It is a little rougher than dl-amphetamine, but with a couple of benzos, you should do fine if you dose conservatively.
I was not ready for the intensity of the rush.
The first signs in about 2-3 minutes consisted of an incredible nausea, and euphoria. I immediately went to the toilet, because the nausea was at the point where I was pretty damn sure I was about to vomit, and I'm usually pretty good at telling when that stage has been reached and there's no turning back; luckily the super intense nausea passed relatively quickly, about 20-30 seconds, and faded away pretty quickly (I don't remember exactly, but like 4-5 minutes).
I felt more chatty than amp salts, and more euphoric.
It is a little rougher than dl-amphetamine, but with a couple of benzos, you should do fine if you dose conservatively.
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lolwhatzdrugs
Bluelighter
After a bit more use, I have some questions, and stuff to say.
Has any one else experienced the type and duration of nausea I mentioned? Did you vomit, and what was your R.O.A.?
I read a few people mention that when smoked it turned colors, or black or tasted odd, so I wasn't gonna try it, but my buddy suggested it - fuck me does it work well
It melts immediately into a perfectly clear puddle. So perfectly clear that it is hard to see on the foil, unless you use too much heat, then it changes to an amber hue. If done correctly (not too hot) the foil should look pretty the same as when you started as when you finished. If you didn't get this result either you have some ethylphenidate which was cut or didn't have ethylphenidate, OR I don't have ethylphenidate. I find the last explanation unlikely due to the duration and effects match closely with the descriptions of it's effects.
Also, the nausea only seems to occur on the very first strong hit, or any very strong dose subsequently. Smaller supplemental doses do not intensify the feeling, or bring it back. I find the nausea a bit odd, as smoked meth doesn't cause that, but then again there is not much "Blue Sky" going around (Apparently Los Pollos Hermanos got shut down? and just if some mod is not familiar - though I find it unlikely - Los Pollos Hermanos is a fictional chicken restaurant, the front for a methamphetamine empire.). Unless you can't stand even a minute of nausea, it certainly is not a deal breaker, and I would guess that oral administration is more gradual, and therefore more subtle.
It's short duration can cause crack like redosing, but it's not that moreish. I binged for a bit more than 80 hours, and only noticed mild side effects, like my vision started getting a bit blurry. Even though I had taken another hit large enough to upset my stomach, I fell asleep within three hours of that hit, but I had been up a bit and took some etizolam. I was starting to feel shitty, but that's on me for not eating, and forgetting to take my loperamide for two days, the high masked the beginning symptoms of opioid W/D. I ate a roll, took some lope, and went to bed, and when I woke up I felt normal or better than normal.
I find it preferable to meth in almost all areas- purity*, duration (that is short enough that one dose won't keep you up for 24 hours...depending on you and the dose), price. The nausea is totally acceptable, and disappears rapidly. The only thing I can say is it isn't as euphoric as meth beats amp-salts.
Another MAJOR side effect this stuff lacked is that the soft pallet of the roof my mouth becomes super sensitive, and the first bite of bread would be ok kinda scraping off the saliva/mucus coating, and the second would feel like I ate some brillo. Both Methamp, and Amp (adderall), (and 4 and 2fa) cause this effect. It usually takes a day or two to heal, and I have to limit what I eat to softer things which must be chewed super finely before swallowing. This amazing lacked that, although my throat felt a little sore from the roll I ate before bed, but the next day my throat felt fine. I don't know why this would lack that effect, as I smoked and swallowed it, and yet any ROA of the other drugs I mentioned causes this effect to occur (dunno about intraparenteral, as it's a ROA I've never used but would assume it would as well). Can anyone elaborate on this, or share similar occurrences?
If you find it hard to control your use when it comes to stimulants, I suggest you stay away. I find it a little difficult not to use it when I have it (unless I've been up for more than a day or so when you enter that iffy area, then sleep is desirable) and I'm not a huge lover of this class of drugs, though I do enjoy them every now and then. This would be the third time I've consumed a stimulant this year to give you an idea of tolerance.
I wouldn't IV it, because I just don't shoot stuff, but if you are a fan of shooting stuff, I wouldn't. If you want a quick onset, plug it, if you want a quicker and less safe onset, smoke it. The fact that it's an RC with purity higher than street stims might[/I1] it safer* in regard to IVing other stimulants, but stimulants are never healthy to IV anyway. I'm not talking down, I shouldn't smoke any more of it, and just plug it.
The length of this post is also a credit to it's effects, so it might be fun to use in a social situation, unless you're prone to anxiety from stimulants or from other people. I took etizolam and still felt a bit anxious but that was probably from the heart rate increase which can cause that mild anxious feeling. I took the second 'experience' with an opiate, and I can say the side-effects are far diminished and the drug is more enjoyable.
TL;DR - Not bad, moreish, Good>Bad by a nice extent.
*this is assumed. Supporting evidence is I have read a discussion of a GC/MS done on the vendors product, the people concluded that it was of high purity. I say assumed because it could have very well been a different batch, or the test results falsely generated, but the GC/MS was done by someone other than the vendor. I took it with a hefty grain of something that looks like salt
Has any one else experienced the type and duration of nausea I mentioned? Did you vomit, and what was your R.O.A.?
I read a few people mention that when smoked it turned colors, or black or tasted odd, so I wasn't gonna try it, but my buddy suggested it - fuck me does it work well
It melts immediately into a perfectly clear puddle. So perfectly clear that it is hard to see on the foil, unless you use too much heat, then it changes to an amber hue. If done correctly (not too hot) the foil should look pretty the same as when you started as when you finished. If you didn't get this result either you have some ethylphenidate which was cut or didn't have ethylphenidate, OR I don't have ethylphenidate. I find the last explanation unlikely due to the duration and effects match closely with the descriptions of it's effects.
Also, the nausea only seems to occur on the very first strong hit, or any very strong dose subsequently. Smaller supplemental doses do not intensify the feeling, or bring it back. I find the nausea a bit odd, as smoked meth doesn't cause that, but then again there is not much "Blue Sky" going around (Apparently Los Pollos Hermanos got shut down? and just if some mod is not familiar - though I find it unlikely - Los Pollos Hermanos is a fictional chicken restaurant, the front for a methamphetamine empire.). Unless you can't stand even a minute of nausea, it certainly is not a deal breaker, and I would guess that oral administration is more gradual, and therefore more subtle.
It's short duration can cause crack like redosing, but it's not that moreish. I binged for a bit more than 80 hours, and only noticed mild side effects, like my vision started getting a bit blurry. Even though I had taken another hit large enough to upset my stomach, I fell asleep within three hours of that hit, but I had been up a bit and took some etizolam. I was starting to feel shitty, but that's on me for not eating, and forgetting to take my loperamide for two days, the high masked the beginning symptoms of opioid W/D. I ate a roll, took some lope, and went to bed, and when I woke up I felt normal or better than normal.
I find it preferable to meth in almost all areas- purity*, duration (that is short enough that one dose won't keep you up for 24 hours...depending on you and the dose), price. The nausea is totally acceptable, and disappears rapidly. The only thing I can say is it isn't as euphoric as meth beats amp-salts.
Another MAJOR side effect this stuff lacked is that the soft pallet of the roof my mouth becomes super sensitive, and the first bite of bread would be ok kinda scraping off the saliva/mucus coating, and the second would feel like I ate some brillo. Both Methamp, and Amp (adderall), (and 4 and 2fa) cause this effect. It usually takes a day or two to heal, and I have to limit what I eat to softer things which must be chewed super finely before swallowing. This amazing lacked that, although my throat felt a little sore from the roll I ate before bed, but the next day my throat felt fine. I don't know why this would lack that effect, as I smoked and swallowed it, and yet any ROA of the other drugs I mentioned causes this effect to occur (dunno about intraparenteral, as it's a ROA I've never used but would assume it would as well). Can anyone elaborate on this, or share similar occurrences?
If you find it hard to control your use when it comes to stimulants, I suggest you stay away. I find it a little difficult not to use it when I have it (unless I've been up for more than a day or so when you enter that iffy area, then sleep is desirable) and I'm not a huge lover of this class of drugs, though I do enjoy them every now and then. This would be the third time I've consumed a stimulant this year to give you an idea of tolerance.
I wouldn't IV it, because I just don't shoot stuff, but if you are a fan of shooting stuff, I wouldn't. If you want a quick onset, plug it, if you want a quicker and less safe onset, smoke it. The fact that it's an RC with purity higher than street stims might[/I1] it safer* in regard to IVing other stimulants, but stimulants are never healthy to IV anyway. I'm not talking down, I shouldn't smoke any more of it, and just plug it.
The length of this post is also a credit to it's effects, so it might be fun to use in a social situation, unless you're prone to anxiety from stimulants or from other people. I took etizolam and still felt a bit anxious but that was probably from the heart rate increase which can cause that mild anxious feeling. I took the second 'experience' with an opiate, and I can say the side-effects are far diminished and the drug is more enjoyable.
TL;DR - Not bad, moreish, Good>Bad by a nice extent.
*this is assumed. Supporting evidence is I have read a discussion of a GC/MS done on the vendors product, the people concluded that it was of high purity. I say assumed because it could have very well been a different batch, or the test results falsely generated, but the GC/MS was done by someone other than the vendor. I took it with a hefty grain of something that looks like salt
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#1 - Dex
#2 - Ethylphenidate
#3 - Methylphenidate
But Ethylphenidate is so much cheaper then Dex of Methylphenidate (for me).
Today i did like 30 mg around 1:00 pm.
Good stimulation, motivation and feel good vibes.
I can't imagine that people use 500mg or more at home or something like that.
I wouldn't even use that on a rave. Such amounts fuck you up big time.
#2 - Ethylphenidate
#3 - Methylphenidate
But Ethylphenidate is so much cheaper then Dex of Methylphenidate (for me).
Today i did like 30 mg around 1:00 pm.
Good stimulation, motivation and feel good vibes.
I can't imagine that people use 500mg or more at home or something like that.
I wouldn't even use that on a rave. Such amounts fuck you up big time.
lolwhatzdrugs
Bluelighter
I could use that amount over like 5 days, and only if I wanted to be spun constantly. You list Dex as number one, D-Methamp or Just D-amp?
foolsgold
Bluelighter
right ive got to take blood tests to get on this damn therapy courses and how long does eph take to be full out of you system please guys days weeks months i mean i use up to 5 grams ago
lolwhatzdrugs
Bluelighter
You should know testing questions aren't allowed as their usually easily found; a google search would have shown you that for most stimulants that time is rapid.
D-amp, that stuff is perfect for me. I had some 15mg extended release.
No awkward comedown, not disconnected or anything.
(M)etylphenidate gives you that weird feeling when the effects are gone.
frozenfridge
Bluelighter
This suff is good especially when mixed with Cocaine their are only 2 problems the fact it's hard to turn of an that it totally rapes your nose
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I acquired a gram today, had a few small lines, it's an extremely fine powder, almost like flour. Struggling to snort it as its making me cough, hitting the back of the throat, feeling stimulated but not euphoric, a little anxious but due to it being something new. Gonna have to find a new roa. Thinking of getting a couple of beers to see if that makes it any better.
I've been using this stuff daily in two small doses. First dose like 25/30 mg and redose the same.
Timing is very important with this stuff and i cant figure out what works best.
Yesterday i took 35mg and went to the centre and i felt great for maybe 90 minutes.
After that the effects became less and i start to felt shitty. I didn't want to redose because i thought it could not bring back the first high. After dinner i got 1 liter of beer and i felt good again. Not that weirdish, dont know what to do while im just staring at a wall feeling.
Today im trying 4 doses of 15mg each two hours to see how i react on it. This stuff is pretty nice when you're using it but when the effects are gone you're left with a worthless feeling.
PS: i think that 90 minute high isn't worth it at all when afterwards you feel numb for 6 hours.
Timing is very important with this stuff and i cant figure out what works best.
Yesterday i took 35mg and went to the centre and i felt great for maybe 90 minutes.
After that the effects became less and i start to felt shitty. I didn't want to redose because i thought it could not bring back the first high. After dinner i got 1 liter of beer and i felt good again. Not that weirdish, dont know what to do while im just staring at a wall feeling.
Today im trying 4 doses of 15mg each two hours to see how i react on it. This stuff is pretty nice when you're using it but when the effects are gone you're left with a worthless feeling.
PS: i think that 90 minute high isn't worth it at all when afterwards you feel numb for 6 hours.
mind-explorer
Bluelighter
What is EPH better with, flubromazepam or etizolam?
lolwhatzdrugs
Bluelighter
I don't know why all of you insist on snorting with all of the stories of blowing out chunks of blood into tissues for days later.....
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I'll never buy that stuff again. Either I was ripped off or it really is a shitty stim. Just gave my friend the rest of the gram bag a bought which was well over half a gram and he shot up about 150mg. Said it had an initial kick and then nothing. Personally snorting the very powdery substance I obtained was vile. Made me come each time.
lolwhatzdrugs
Bluelighter
Being vile, and "coming" each time you snort it don't go hand in hand to me.
frozenfridge
Bluelighter
Yea it's probably the worst thing ever for your nose I've had lots of different stuff up mine but the damage that this stuff did was ridiculous it's good when mixed ended up getting an infection my doctor said it was one of the first like septum infections shes seen had to go on antibiotics lol
lolwhatzdrugs
Bluelighter
This should be bolded at put at the front lol
frozenfridge
Bluelighter
I do still have it occasionally but I always make sure I wash my nose out after about 20 secs
lolwhatzdrugs
Bluelighter
Dude, rectal it if you really want that rush! Save your nose!
Ziiirp
Bluelighter
I'd say the best ROA for this and MPA is via the loo ... though it would fall under animal abuse, because the sewer rats then would have to ingest those poisonous liquids.