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RCs The Ethylphenidate (Ethyl phenyl(piperidin-2-yl)acetate) Megathread V3

This one make me feel so shitty all day long even after small doses (20-30mg). Got crystal, received 3g in 2 rocks. Any opinions why one dose make me feel tired, depressed, terrible headache , irritaion and so on? Tried oral and nasal (not same day)
 
mind-explorer said:
This one make me feel so shitty all day long even after small doses (20-30mg). Got crystal, received 3g in 2 rocks. Any opinions why one dose make me feel tired, depressed, terrible headache , irritaion and so on? Tried oral and nasal (not same day)
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foolsgold said:
anyone had this yellow stuff ive heard of yet ? if you get it bin it is the word i am hearing
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Mine was many small rocks, and didn't feel like that at all. Maybe some vendor selling something else as eph? Who knows.
 
Alright, I've read through quite a large chunk of these megathreads on EPH and now have some questions before I take the plunge:

1) There's no way I'm snorting this (or pretty much anything lol). So what is the best starting dosage orally (I have used stimulants before and have a decent, albeit not super high tolerance, so don't throw something wimpy like 15mg at me, just the standard mid-range/safe dose to get the effects.. 40mg?)

2) Rectal administration... I pretty much capsule everything, so what would the protocol here be? Just stick the capsule as far up as you can go and bam, that's it?

3) Combining with alcohol, weed, and valium/etizolam. From what I've gathered, low dosing on both liquor and EPH seems to be a pretty good and chill combo. What about weed? What about all 3 together?

4) I know people use stims like 4-FA, 2-FA, 2-FMA, etc. in combination with empathogenic drugs such as MDMA, aMT, 5-MAPB, 6APDB, BK-2C-B, etc. to make a little designer chem cocktail. Any EPH experiences here, with MDMA and aMT in particular? Or more specifically, what would be the safest low-dose combo? Anything to stay away from especially?

5) Viagra, etc... no problem to pop one on the comedown?
 
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2) Rectal administration... I pretty much capsule everything, so what would the protocol here be? Just stick the capsule as far up as you can go and bam, that's it?
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need to dissolve it into water, you can't plug capsules "dry" and expect it to work.

oral dosage is probably around 30-50mg. combination with alcohol/benzos is probably nicer than with cannabis because some people are real susceptible to anxiety from that.

it's probably not worth it to combine eph and psychedelics/other stims. just increases the incidence of side effects. viagra is ok though.
 
My prefered means of taking ethylphenidate is rectal. I measure out 40mgs to 55mgs,mix in one ml of water and stir it until it dissolves.
Then I suck it up into a needleless rig and plug away. I find that this method gives me the most bang for my buck. If I took an oral dose it would have to be 2 or 3 times larger to get a good effect(for me any way). Even then it`s too subtle for me.
 
change-jug said:
My prefered means of taking ethylphenidate is rectal. I measure out 40mgs to 55mgs,mix in one ml of water and stir it until it dissolves.
Then I suck it up into a needleless rig and plug away. I find that this method gives me the most bang for my buck. If I took an oral dose it would have to be 2 or 3 times larger to get a good effect(for me any way). Even then it`s too subtle for me.
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Did the same thing when I received it. CVS will give you a 1 ml oral syringe (it's bright orange) if you just ask, other pharmacies probably will too if you're nice about it.

I weighed out about 45 mgs, and sucked it up when only 60-70% had dissolved and holy shit, by the time I got outside to smoke a cigarette it hit at once. The rush of euphoria was so intense I almost puked right then and there, but I held on and it vanished into a wave of stimulated euphoria. I didn't even smoke the cigarette all the way - it kept going out. I didn't try it at all orally, but smoking it was particularly fiendish and it's purity led to almost no residue on foil. I was impressed and would probably choose this stuff over methamphetamine.
 
Hi there,
Sorry to butt in,but I am trying to find out stuff and going round in circles not quite getting anywhere,so I thought I would be brave and ask!
I have been taking ethylphenidate now for 24 days and know I'm building tolerance fast by the amount I am doing(over 500mg per day) and the effects,or rather lack of,but it is helping me get up in the morning,it has got rid of the horrible lethargy cannot be bothered to do anything that is not necessary feeling I have been having.

I'm just over 40,married with 2 teenage kids,and now thanks to complications developed when an alcoholic,disabled,mentally and physicaly.I haven't had a drink for nearly 3 years now though.I have no friends,either on line or in person,a Hubby who is now,thanks to his own medical problems,a depressed PS3 addict who is trying to block out the shitty life we have to endure every day.I cannot go out on my own,in fact I hate going out,I do everything too slow for even my own liking and try to blot out the perpetual pain that is always,always,ready to remind me what I shitty fuck up I am with various prescribed painkillers.Depressed?ever so slightly,but no one gives a crap.Thanks to having major surgery on my ankle,I live upstairs,venturing down to cook every now and again,Hubby lives,sleeps,eats and breathes 99% of the time downstairs.It never used to be like this and I wish for those days again.I think that is enough of the picture for you to get the idea,I'm trying to show you.

Anyway,bored out of my skull,I was watching old programmes when one about 'legal highs' from a few years ago was on,and as I have used speed in the past it got my attention.I had a look on line,found out a bit more,discovered RC's and ordered some.I wasn't expecting much,but was feeling reckless.Or just plain stupid.I am not too sure yet.:?

My first little weeny 500mg lot arrived.WOW!!! was I surprised.It was just like the speed of old days!OK,it stung a lot,but fuck me!!There where tingles in my head,I felt awake,ALIVE!I was resurrected!!So I ordered more......then again a few days later(just quality control)..and again(its the weekend soon).....then again(I deserve a treat) then...you guessed it..AGAIN (last one for a bit) and so my old friend addiction was back.I was justifying it to myself 100%.No one suspected anything,Hubby keeps odd hours anyway with his gaming,the kids are either out or asleep before me and I am normally just quiet anyway.I was never asleep before 4 am,or up before 10am,Hubby getting up even as late as 3pm if he has had yet another night of shit sleep,despite us both popping a Zolpiderm at night.I was able to blend in,and still am.No one knows...except you guys and my laptop.

So I did the stupid thing and bought in bulk.I could ration myself to about 500mg a day,split into 4 or 5,I said.It is so cheap I would be silly not to,I said.I am in control,I said.Then I saw three pigs fly past my window,if you get what I mean.

Now I see myself as in trouble,in the last few days I have noticed my intake of EPH up,weight down(well I could afford to lose a little)appetite non existent and rationing going up and up.So maybe I should now think about damage limitation.
I do sleep about5/6 hours every night,eat breakfast every day,and glug fruit smoothies through the rest of the time even if I don't drink as much water as I was.I am happy about my weight loss,I was trying to lose weight,but thanks to a love of night time snacking on the usual crisps,sweets and chocolate biscuits, I was not.Now I have a draw full of untouched snacks.I have learnt not to try and put it up my nose,the pain was out weighing the pleasure,even though the initial hit is sorely missed,and I can only 'have a bad cold' for so long.Besides,it is easier and safer to share some out and swallow it instead of mirrors and whatnot.

So to finally.. (I am sorry that went on for so long,but I wanted to fill you in.And imagine how long it took me to type,I am a slow typist even now!)Questions!

1.Are there any vitamins or supplements recommended for either enhancing or making the comedown less painful?I have seen a little about something called 5-HTP,and it seems like it either helps or you see no difference.Anyone taken/taking it with good effect?I am currently taking thiamine,calcium,cod liver oil and a multivitamin,and just ordered some vitamin B complex,glutamine and magnesium with the weekly shop.Any thoughts would be great to hear.

2.Sertraline,does it help or hinder the effects of EPH when I was already taking it.I was in the process of cutting down,without telling my Dr,from 50mg to 25mg.Some days I would forget to take it,so I don't think I was that dependant on it,but have been taking it on and off for about 10 years.I know it takes longer than that to do its work,but my mood was fairly stable.

3.Sub lingual protection.Last week,I stuck to my ration for once,and put it down to taking it this way....but then the blisters appeared and I had bit of my mouth coming away every time I tried to speak and have been eating Bonjela like a demon.It is just too sore.Is there anything that can be done to help prevent this happening cos I think the effect otherwise was good.At the moment I just stick it on my tongue and swallow,quite enjoying the sweet,sweet taste of chemicals.Ever since my first encounter with speed,anything remotely chemical is fine by me.

4.Does anyone know if there are any interactions with the following that I should be aware of?Pregabalin,codeine,slow release dihydrocideine,naproxen,omeprazole and zolpiderm.I take all but Naproxen every day,and that only every so often for a week or so.

I am so sorry to of babbled on for so long,but felt to get anywhere you had to know the basics of me.I do know I am being stupid,I should never of got the first lot,and should of known that I could not control it as well as I thought I could.
But I feel alive again.
I have finished projects that where started years ago,silly thing like gave myself a proper manicure,without skipping bits,I pay more attention to detail.Also I am better at crosswords.I'm not dreading waking up as I was,or getting so depressed when Hubby is so into whatever he is doing he doesn't speak to me for hours/ignores me/doesn't hug me when he says goodnight.I have brilliant chats with my son (who constantly looks in a state of stimulants,but I know 110% he is not)and am listening to my daughters world of her,her,and oh her when she wants to.I smoke less (hands too busy)take less painkillers because I get so wrapped up in,say,crosswords I forget they have eased off,it's only when I go to stand up again,and wonder why it hurts so much that I realise that I should of taken them an hour ago.And lets just say I might of taken one or two more than I should of at least....8 times a day.
I know it cannot last,and things will go back to how they where,probably worse,but for now I am,I suppose compared to how I felt before meeting EPH....content!And I cannot remember when I last felt that:).

So for now,if anyone has any answers to the above,or can point me in the right direction it would be great,thanks.
 
I'm guessing that post was written while being on eph?

As for your questions:

1) I know you don't want to hear it, but quitting for a few months and sticking to occasional use and sane doses is your best bet. Benzos help with stimulant comedowns too, but that's a short term solution and with all the other meds you're taking could be dangerous (opiates, pregabalin, zolpidem and benzos potentiate each other) depending on your tolerance, exact doses, ...

2) No idea, sorry.

3) Put it in gel caps or plugg it.

4) You mean between the eph and stuff you listed or stuff you listed with eachother?
 
Hmmmmm What on earth makes you think that?;)ME????

Thanks for answering,yep,for no.4 I meant with each other.
I will carry on digging round,this site is amazing for just reading about what other people are experiencing,as expected I keep getting distracted by threads,and forget what I was looking for in the first place.This eph would be good for people who have to write a lot,I have never had the urge to write this much before.If you think that post was long,you should see my 'I think I should write about this'notebook:\

If I had had the energy to write something that long before taking eph,I probably would not of touched it.As it was,today when the shopping was delivered it took me and my son 5 hours to put it away,done that,then all the other house crap like washing,sorting,drying clothes,getting meals ready,dishes,cleaning.....and so on.Hubby just brought his plates out after eating....that was it....the rest of the time with his PS3.:(I miss him.I want MY Hubby back.:(And I don't know how.

The Dr said there was nothing he could do without talking to him,so maybe I will use this time to try and find some advice for helping him maybe...very sensitive issues,so another thing I don't want him to find out.

I will keep my eye on here though,I think this is a really interesting place and I'm so glad I found it,and I promise,no more epic posts=D.
 
Yeah,sorry,it just sort of gets me like that sometimes.:(

OK,back to one of my original questions,the sub lingual method.Either I have some super strong eph,or disgustingly delicate oral features cos I have,from one day of taking only 4 lots of my new favourite pass time last week,had burns in my mouth that have had bits of skin falling off like I have never seen before,and I was once a dental nurse.At first I thought they where the usual type of ulcers that occur every now and again,but then I felt something in my mouth and saw a piece of skin about 2cm long.Eeewwww!!!So of course I had another look,and it was not a pretty sight.
Wherever the eph had been for longer than a nano second was damaged.

Now I am not completely new to chemicals,one way or another,and have never had anything like this happen.Nor seen/heard about stuff like this.So why pick on me?? A week later and I still have to watch what I eat,like if anyone dares to offer me a crisp...Razorblades would be kinder I kid you not.These things are mean!Somehow I don't think shop sold me their 'burn your gob off special strong stuff',so I assume its me.

Has anyone else come across this?Or does anyone have an idea as to what I can do? (but I think I already got that answer.Sweet F.A. Do it another way!)

Never knew I was so fragile8o
 
The caustic nature of ethylphenidate is well documented throughout this thread. There have been methods to ease insufflation and mouth pain. Plugging is also an option, but it's still very caustic, and I'd advise against using too much too often, which was my problem with ethylphenidate. I couldn't moderate. I've been tempted to go back, very nearly have a few times -- I think it'll get ya if you aren't careful.
 
Just A Guy said:
The caustic nature of ethylphenidate is well documented throughout this thread. There have been methods to ease insufflation and mouth pain. Plugging is also an option, but it's still very caustic, and I'd advise against using too much too often, which was my problem with ethylphenidate. I couldn't moderate. I've been tempted to go back, very nearly have a few times -- I think it'll get ya if you aren't careful.
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Take it orally dissolved in water, or parachute it - I personally plug it.
 
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Just got a new order which is shit. Looks similar with way larger rocks. It burns into something nasty when vaporized.

40mg of the other stuff had me spun.....400mg had me spun for 6 days. I barely feel this shit at like 800mg+

The vendor acknowledged it was a lousy batch and was getting a different one next week so he should hook me up.
 
I hope things get sorted,lolwhatzdrugs ,rotten luck.
I wonder if it could be the same as mine,Vendor I mean,or from the same lot.I thought it was odd,in the space of 1 day,to have to double my doses,I mean,yes,I know about building tolerance,physical factors,even your mood before can change the way drugs do their thing,but overnight!!!

BUT....with me,in this instance,I think it might be a good thing.
Maybe the difference between giving myself god knows what in the mouth,prolonged,irritated ulcers cannot be good,in the quest to achieve last weeks manic cleaning,OR just try and accept I told myself you don't get something as cheap as chips for no good reason.(and it was cheap)
Honestly,I was amazed the postman turned up with anything!

I am trying the nasal decongestant bottle filled with water and eph,both carefully measured of course,and it is a nifty little cheat,specially if you have to go somewhere.Portable,discreet,easily administrated,what more can you ask for?

It's for those reasons I am not a fan of plugging,and as I am trying to keep this as quiet as I can,I don't want to push my luck by hogging the loo for too long.Also I want to get on my self imposed 'show ME I can cut down cos no one else in this house cares about me' routine,which involves sticking to a set amount,about 5 x 75mg bundles of happiness,a day for now,just with the remainder staying put!! (for a LONG while) cutting the size of them every few days,then back to Boringville.Bit of a challenge,but I think I am in the right frame of mind.=D
 
I can only offer my insights into ethylphenidate as am alternative to crystal for sex. Overall verdict-keep looking. Snorting tears your nose to shreds and produces blood-streaked yellow snot (LOTS of it). Oral nothing. Plugging (or bumping as we gays like to term it) OK if you use 500mg or so but slow to build and nothing like bumping crystal. Slamming now you're talking- about 0.2-0.5 ml (of powder of course into a 1 ml syringe) Make SURE it's dissolved and it's a great hit and horny. BUT (and there's always a downside) I have big veins and slam myself easily. But this produces much worse injection site reactions than crystal and really collapses veins. There's something about this chemical your veins really don't like. I came to me senses before doing too much harm but you could wake up on Monday morning in a real mess. AND don't let anyone tell you the come down's worse than crystal. It's AT least as bad.
 
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