RCs The Ethylphenidate (Ethyl phenyl(piperidin-2-yl)acetate) Megathread V2

[skyHiGuy]

some people say they find it more recreational than MPA, but in my opinion if what I have is the real thing MPA is far more suitable for recreational use. Is there anyone who agrees with me?

View re mpa vs eph is personal and varies from person to person and time to time.

This week its eph for me which seems cleaner and despite the sting it isn't as bad taste as mpa. it is also less sticky in my nose so seems to dissolve better and quicker. It is strange, a iittle coke like, minor vislal accentuation (as someone mentioned above). Re-dosing, binging and and long term usage risk as with mpa.

 

[Morkin]

Maybe this is a stupid question, but I just want to make sure if it's safe to put, say, 20mg ethylpheniate powder in a gelcap and swallow it? I don't feel like dealing with the taste of it when mixing with water/OJ. I was just thinking whether or not it's safe since that is basically swallowing pure powder as opposed to mixing it with a liquid.

Not stupid at all. Mixing this shit with liquid tastes foul. Snorting is agony.

When you gelcap, you'd best have an empty stomach. I don't feel this stuff unless I eat 100+mg.

 

[DubNaut]

Great!

Thanks for your HR-oriented dosing advice with these two compounds!

I'm sure your heart loves being stimulated and overworked for 72+ hours. You should try to 1 up the HR by throwing in some alcohol.

Maybe read all my posts, don't be picky now?

after "72+ hours" of over stimulated and a worked heart i can say i FELT safe.
our bodies know are limits, the KEY to me is HYDRATION.
Most of the nasty effects are going to come from sleep deprivation and dehydration.
specifically when there is vasoconstricting from the drugs and especially when your liquid is alcohol


i also consumed various aminos vitamins during this time, no food.
i come from a psychedelic background for what that can be worth
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i think we can confirm the corrosive nature of the eph, + nasal ROA, + and toothaches aka sinus damage.
these are aches that stay throughout the session or discontinued use, NOT after direct insufflication
as a few of us obtained this

 

[bloodshed344]

specifically when there is vasoconstricting from the drugs and especially when your liquid is alcohol

Dude! Are you being sarcastic to me? Either way I'm rolling on the floor laughing.


My new catch phrase is gonna be "take some alcohol for the vasoconstriction"

 

[Bone14]

Alcohol is a vasodilator.


DubNaut, don't try to justify running on stims for 72 hours. It's retarded.
Not eating for 72 hours is also retarded.

 

[bloodshed344]

Alcohol is a vasodilator.


DubNaut, don't try to justify running on stims for 72 hours. It's retarded.
Not eating for 72 hours is also retarded.

Don't poke fun at me. Also alcohol is only a temporary vasodilator, so it is useless for real vasoconstriction problems, also it causes vasoconstriction after it causes vasodilation. I don't know this for a fact, but I'm basing it on what I saw a knowledgable BL member say (he said using alcohol to battle vasoconstriction from stims was useless and maybe even worse) and also on my own experiences. I know I've had cold hands before when I was on a psychedelic and drank some alcohol, and normally I would have required a much greater dose to get vasoconstriction like that.


Anyway "Use alcohol for the vasoconstriction" is now a joke, and anyone saying it is funny.

 

[marksman]

Heroin!

 

[marksman]

I'm firmly under the belief that this is one of the only decent RCs out there.

Been looking for a coke substitute for ages. Not sure if i'm allowed to quote prices but Coke is fucking expensive in the UK and more often than not the gear is pretty bunk.

If i ever fancy a coke night in I think this might be a suitable alternative. Goes well with alcohol but please don't overdo it.

 

[bloodshed344]

also it causes vasoconstriction after it causes vasodilation.

*cough*

Great!
I'm sure your heart loves being stimulated and overworked for 72+ hours.

>Great post! Great implications!
>it takes a quick look at *bloodsheds* posts to see something is up his ass.

DubNaut, don't try to justify running on stims for 72 hours. It's retarded.
Not eating for 72 hours is also retarded.

Excuse me, I thought this was a section of bluelight for harm reduction and useful informational posts.
>I don't find the personal attacks suitable.
By the way you are implying my situation, lets define "retarded"


HR: If you don't know alcohol dehydrates you, if you don't know stim use will dehydrate you.
welcome, it will. Keep hydrated friends.


agreed mark this is a good alternative for a coke rush, best on a night out/in with alcohol

*cough*



>Great post! Great implications!
>it takes a quick look at *bloodsheds* posts to see something is up his ass.



Excuse me, I thought this was a section of bluelight for harm reduction and useful informational posts.
>I don't find the personal attacks suitable.
By the way you are implying my situation, lets define "retarded"


HR: If you don't know alcohol dehydrates you, if you don't know stim use will dehydrate you.
welcome, it will. Keep hydrated friends.


agreed mark this is a good alternative for a coke rush, best on a night out/in with alcohol

That thing up my ass is called knowledge and goodwill for others! It's called tough love, I don't care about your feelings though, just wellbeing.

 

[closeyoureyes]

Here is my post I wrote a little bit mroe than a week ago :

Hi everyone. I have 1g of EPH in my hands. It is thought to be from a reputable vendor . Looks like little shards of sugar and the smell of it reminds me of hospital, doctors or dentists office, very chemical. I tried snorting little lines of approximately 15 - 25 mg's and it wasn't really good. It stings like hell,oh boy it hurts really really bad, and the effects aren't as great as some people say. All I notice is elevated heartbeat, a little bit of energy and this weird head space which is not very noticeable. I took 50mg dose sublingualy and it felt the same (horribly bitter taste,yuck,but still felt better than snorting), the only difference is that I felt kind of chatty and the head space was just a little bit deeper, I also felt discomfort in my kidneys for a few seconds but I don't know if its because of this chem. It is active chemical, however, it feels like if somebody would put this in my drink or by some weird way drug me with this drug I wouldn't really feel any difference from me being sober and being on EPH. And this is my problem, was I scammed and received bad quality chem or what? Because I read that some people compare it to coke, altough I never tried coke if that's all it feels like then I don't even want it :D Also, some people say they find it more recreational than MPA, but in my opinion if what I have is the real thing MPA is far more suitable for recreational use. Is there anyone who agrees with me?

Here is my opinion now. As I tried experimenting more with this substance, the more I did it, the more I felt it. It's like I learned to feel what it gives to me. Very pleasant feeling, with stimulation less noticable than MPA's but with this very pleasant not opinion-altering unexplainable feeling inside. I guess that's dopamine :D I shared it with some friends who also did coke afterwards for the first time in their lifes the same evening and they said EPH was almost the same. I find 50mg was very pleasant I now think less,like 30mg is also pretty nice. 60mg's orally lacked that initial rush you get after snorting but it lasted longer so I would say it's also very ok to simply bomb it.
So, in conclusion, I can now say that I'm the kind of person who enjoys both MPA and EPH. Taking one and then another also was fun. The only bad thing about EPH is that it's very damaging to the nose. It hurts and bleeds now

 

[DubNaut]

So, in conclusion, I can now say that I'm the kind of person who enjoys both MPA and EPH. Taking one and then another also was fun. The only bad thing about EPH is that it's very damaging to the nose. It hurts and bleeds now

Same I enjoy both, i only take MPA orally and EPH nasally for the rushy. I also plug the two occasionally.
Make a habit of washing your nose (snorting water) sometime before and after lines, or when you end/go to sleep
it really makes a world of a difference, especially when your usage level may be currently relatively small
versus what others are taking and receiving damage.

and really make sure to crush if the powder/crystal, i find plastic cards not adequate enough the top end of some chap stick works great
and a lot of times the damage will come from taking a line not crushed cause your don't care

 

[t6apb]

i really cant snort this stuff anymore, pretty much every weekend since october going through between half a gram and a gram. ive finally called it a day with snorting haha

im gonna bomb it from now on as i find it much better, 50mg bombs is the final decision.

 

[Ziiirp]

I still doesn't like this stuff. Snorted around 100mg and ate 30mg of the crystal type over the course of ~15 hours. I worry a bit landed on my lungs and now I thinks something is wrong, though nothing hurts. Will report back. If I should describe the effects I'd say it feels like the confused little faggot brother of 2-DPMP and MDPV. No rush, no harsh comedown at that dose. More party-drug than stimulant.

 

[crazycatman]

>The only bad thing about EPH is that it's very damaging to the nose. It hurts and bleeds now
the nebuliser idea talked about a few pages (or perhaps threads) back really helps with this

 

[Machete]

Using a drug like alcohol, known for its huge catalogue of effects and interactions (plenty of which are still unknown), simply for one specific effect (vasodilation) is never justifiable.

If you're comboing EPH and alcohol because it feels good, fair enough and best of luck to you, but if anyone is using it just to negate the stimulant vasoconstriction, you should stop immediately. If the vasoconstriction is really bothering you that much, you've probably had too much EPH already -- making it the worst time to go and heap a contradictory, multifaceted chemical like alcohol on top. Best case scenario, the combo let's you temporarily ignore your body's warning signs that you're overdoing things (potentially killing you) and worst case scenario, an unforeseen interaction kills you.

Listen to your body, don't drown out the signals.

 

[foolsgold]

just ordered my first gram of this in a month or so can't remember last time got some but i only got it to go with some pellets of 3,4,cpmt as i've something on later this week and going to use it to get my arse out of bed thursday

 

[bloodshed344]

3,4,cpmt

I looked this up and couldn't find anything. Know what the full name is? Never heard of it.

 

[t6apb]

been bombing this stuff recently instead of sniffing and i have to say i much prefer it!

i tend to take 100mgs and 2 pyrazolams, the come up is smooth and like a very mild mdma come up and the peak is just right and lasts for hours.

i cantbeleive ive been fucking my nose up with this haha

 

[SirNordle]

I am using Ephylphenidate just now as a replacement for a bad MDPV habit and finding it quite a useful substitute, nowhere near as fiendish as MDPV however it does feel a little weak in comparison but still holds me together

 

[Just A Guy]

I'm finished with the ethylphenidate AND the 5-meo-DALT.

Just like t6apb said above, I was taking approx 100mg ethylphenidate, by mouth, approx three times a day, with a couple of pyrazolam afterward. Just built up a tolerance too quickly (at least to the high) so I took some 5-MEO-DALT, too. It wasn't doing much either, so I figured it was a bunk batch (since my other batch was just great.) Before the weekend was over, I'd gone through 2 grams of 5-MEO-DALT, and 2 grams of ethylphenidate.

PAY ATTENTION.

I went into stimulant psychosis this weekend, AND blacked out from the pyrazolam / lack of sleep. I know I'm an idiot. Nobody needs to tell me! Glad it happened if only to kick my ass enough to stay away from this shit from now on. Ordinarily I would keep something as STUPID as this to myself, but since this is a harm reduction forum, I want to let people know: the stuff builds up in your body, builds and builds and builds and finally you fry something and everything seems fucked and hopeless. Paranoia. Scattered thoughts. Not being able to finish anything you start.

The pyrazolam is the nastiest benzo I've ever taken. Etiz was so much kinder to me.

But anyway, as I said, I'm done with this shit. I'll stick to marijuana and mushrooms from now on.

Oh yeah, and before someone says, "Well, no shit: you took so damned much of it." Well, I started using tiny, "responsible" amounts in the beginning, too... But one day, even YOU may find yourself in this situation... (God knows I didn't expect it.)