RCs The Ethylphenidate (Ethyl phenyl(piperidin-2-yl)acetate) Megathread V2

[Ligaturd]

I had a batch of this from the summer, it was the type with a rice sized crystal consistency. I found it to have horrible noradrenergic properties, have a quick decently euphoric come up and a very fast and steep come down that was reminiscent of my dl-methylphenidate binges when I was 11-12 and comparable to doing too much shitty coke. A massive strain on my heart, and insomnia lasted forever after the last dose. I tried a new batch claiming to be the D enantiomer, this time it is a light fluffy powder similar to MDPV and it's alot more tame. I don't feel much if any rise in heart rate at doses comparable to the stuff I had before, but the initial euphoria isn't quite what it was also.

It's actually really tame and counter intuitive to what I expected it to be, I'm sure going overboard will have all the negative effects of the last batch I had. Not very rewarding though, it will serve as a good replacement for caffeine though.

 

[konshuss]

FWIW I found different effects from the crystal version and the powder version. I preferred the fluffy powder much more than the crystals. Fewer negative side-effects.

 

[Movemauser]

would it be OK to take EPH while on SNRIs? (250mg exefor)? was gonna share 0.5g with a friend this weekend and want to make sure. thanx.

Hi Smoothie. I just replied to another similar post regarding SSRIs and rcs. In my opinion, so little is known about these compounds that it's hard to know whether they're safe to take on their own, let alone in combination with other meds. Would it be OK? Possibly. Who knows? If you're going to do it, take very small amounts. EPH is powerful - it's not like speed or Meph where you can rail loads in a short time. Go very steady. 0.5g provides loads of doses.

 

[crazycatman]

would it be OK to take EPH while on SNRIs? (250mg exefor)? was gonna share 0.5g with a friend this weekend and want to make sure. thanx.

you could google for ritalin + snri to give you a rough idea, since ritalin is the most similar substance to eph and more people have probably tried the combo

but personally I wouldn't or if there was no other way start with a really low dose (something that shouldn't even do anything) and slowly increase

 

[fruitsmoothie]

Hi Smoothie. I just replied to another similar post regarding SSRIs and rcs. In my opinion, so little is known about these compounds that it's hard to know whether they're safe to take on their own, let alone in combination with other meds. Would it be OK? Possibly. Who knows? If you're going to do it, take very small amounts. EPH is powerful - it's not like speed or Meph where you can rail loads in a short time. Go very steady. 0.5g provides loads of doses.

don't worry i've done EPH a few times before ;p bi just wasn't on medication.

anyway, i'll start low and work from there like you guys advise.

 

[Movemauser]

Just took some Etiz with a glass of wine and then a couple little EPH lines. Won't do a 'live trip report' as I think that's against the rules (can someone confirm this?). I just wanted to say that this EPH is the fastest-acting thing I've ever railed. I literally sat up from snorting and it was already happenning! Surprised!

Will post a report after it's all over.

 

[t6apb]

ahh etiz, wine (rosé) and EPH my favourite combo. have fun!

 

[Movemauser]

Thanks. At the risk of sounding a ponce, I'm a merlot man myself! But that's hardly the point. Any 11-14% beverage would probably do. With Mephedrone I used to have that White Lightning cider, 'cos it was under £3 for 2 litres and weighed in at about 8% I seem to remember. But now I can afford better booze because Meph is no more! Well, not to a law-abiding citizen like me anyway!

Live trip reports are discouraged in favour of retrospect - so I gather. You can see why, can't you? Would you rather get wisdom from someone on it or someone who has done it? If quality of info is what you're after - it's got to be the latter. I write a bit posh on stims (e.g. "in favour of retrospect"!), so proably better for the tone of the piece if I'm down when I hit it. Then it's more conversational, I hope.

Se yer in the morning, stay safe.

 

[mozzer]

Agree with moreish comments. Best times have been with one day use, limited amount and some booze. No major nose issues anxiety etc. worst with unlimited amount, several days, etiz to sleep etc. nose problems, anxiety, paranoia etc. it's just like a chemical credit card, the more you use it the tougher the repayment. After 3 or 4 days the repayments can get quit harsh. So pay back when you can I suppose rather than let that interest go wonga.com

 

[tjsway]

seriously, is anyone else shooting bloody snot after this?
its immensely disconcerning

 

[crazycatman]

ahh etiz, wine (rosé) and EPH my favourite combo. have fun!

i'd replace the wine with beer, but yeah, that's a nice combo if you get the doses right

seriously, is anyone else shooting bloody snot after this?
its immensely disconcerning

try oral

 

[Morkin]

seriously, is anyone else shooting bloody snot after this?
its immensely disconcerning

Snorting it is - bluntly - stupid. Sure, it's very economical and quick, but will burn a hole in your nose fast. Spend the extra $$$ and eat the stuff.

 

[tjsway]

no no im aware its just its been days since ive even had posession of the stuff and my nose is dry and irritating

 

[Morkin]

no no im aware its just its been days since ive even had posession of the stuff and my nose is dry and irritating

Typical, I'm afraid. As per above, people's noses will bleed for days. Or weeks.

 

[tjsway]

well thats depressing

 

[Somberlain]

Snorting it is - bluntly - stupid.

Only if you don't know how. I used to have problems when snorting this stuff, but since i started taking care of my nose i use ethylphenidate on a daily basis without any problem at all.

Just make your own ethylphenidate nasal spray instead of just snorting powder. Nasal irrigation is highly recommened. Dexpanthenol and Chamomile in various forms (sprays, inhaling, etc.) are both very helpful in supporting your nasal mucosa. Also, it is important to take a break if you have a cold or sinusitis, or it could get nasty.

If you take care of your nose it is possible to use the stuff intranasally without ruining it. I think i would have a bigger problem if i took it orally every day. But of course, if you just shove huge amounts of powder up there without even properly cleaning your nose...

 

[crazycatman]

well i just found an almost empty nebuliser in my medicine cabinet

thinking of trying to make a eph solution an putting it in it

just have to measure how much liquid is in 1 spray

 

[Movemauser]

How do we get on smoking EPH normally please?

By this I mean: can it go in a roll-up? Or should it be vaped or piped?

Cheers

 

[crazycatman]

well i just found an almost empty nebuliser in my medicine cabinet

thinking of trying to make a eph solution an putting it in it

just have to measure how much liquid is in 1 spray

Ok tried it, quite nice actually. Wasn't painful either.

Since eph goes well with benzos (like the eph + etizolam combination mentioned earlier in the thread) has anyone considered doing the nebulizer thing and adding a water soluble benzo?

 

[Ziiirp]

So many replies ?

Hi,

I cannot comprehend all the hype about this particular substance. For me the negatives far outweigh the advantages over concurrent chemicals.

Let's assume I would take this substance as a substitution of an adhd-med. Then my conclusion would be :

negatives :

- confusion >5mg orally
- stomach problems orally
- mucus membrane damage intranasally
- comedown is more than twice as long as effects
- more confusion with very low amounts of alcohol

positives :

- keeps you awake like a low amount of caffeine

Let's assume I would abuse this stuff as party enhancer :

negatives :

- stomach problems orally
- alcohol likely enhances cardiotoxicity
- mucus membrane damage intranasally
- significant noradrenaline reuptake inhibition
- too long insomnia after primary effects wear off
- feels very similar to 2-DPMP with too short halflife

positive :

- keeps you awake like caffeine
- side effects profile can be derived from Methylphenidate more or less
- alcohol enhances dopaminergic effects

Maybe that does not sound overly negative or biased. But considering that you take an RC without deeper research I cannot understand all the fuzz about that stuff. Sorry, that is just my oppinion after 3 tries.