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RCs The Ethylphenidate (Ethyl phenyl(piperidin-2-yl)acetate) Megathread V2

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I've had methylphenidate + alcohol before ... it was a strange combo. I found that I could drink, then drink, then drink even more, and I didn't feel drunk. Went out to a club with some friends, and probably consumed at least 10 oz. of hard alcohol over 2-3 hours. Normally that would get me very drunk.

After my second double of whiskey, I noticed I felt quite normal. I actually was a bit disappointed -- I wasn't getting any buzz from the alcohol.

I stopped drinking not long after that, I realized the methylphenidate was affecting how my body responded to the ethanol. Didn't want to develop liver toxicity or some other bullcrap.

I drank lots of water before bed. Went to sleep, woke up the next day and felt actually quite decent. But I haven't combined methylphenidate + alcohol since that time.

I appreciate the info regarding ethylphenidate + alcohol, it doesn't necessarily seem like the greatest combo either. Probably the EPH is better on its own.
 
you cant beat EPH + etizolam, they slightly cancel each other out, but not like alcohol and EPH would,

it gave me some amazing euphoria, though i'd advise only taking the etizolam after you're done with the EPH
 
man, after a single line the need to drop a deuce is almost instant.
i assume thats a stimulant trademark though
 
Yes, I've noticed that as well. It's like there's weird energy tingles in your extremities. Also gives me sweaty feet. MPA did this for me as well -- even worse than EPH.

EPH also gives me what feels like a tension headache behind my eyes, and mild high-pitched tinnitus. These side effects tend to become more pronounced with multi-day usage of EPH, or using higher doses.

Of course, not everyone will respond the same. Generally the side effects are tolerable, but I try to not overdo the EPH and take a few days off between dosing.

Dopamine / norepinephrine receptors are located all over the body and have multiple roles -- not just the euphoria and reward pathways in the brain. Since EPH affects these receptors (in a relatively unstudied way), it is probably affecting cardiovascular systems and other stuff we have no idea about.

Still, I don't feel like it's anything to get worried about. Everything in moderation, that's what I say. It's just not always what I do. ;)
 
i need to stop insufflating this stuff, im shooting snot mixed with blood rapidly, its slightly worrying.
 
ive been awake since this time yesterday snorting this shit, i only got 500mg which isnt even finished yet, but i have been compulsively dosing, i think ive taken about 400mg in 24 hours, should i be worried?
 
Thats a lot in such a short time but if you feel ok there shouldnt be a huge problem, feeling a bit foggy in the head is normal I guess after 24h.
If thats all take a benzo if you have one, dont drink alcohol and if you dont have a benzo just wait and dont redose.
Maybe lie down even though you cant sleep
 
nah its mainly anxiety as of now, mainly where my worry comes from lol.
but alas, i am benzo-free and i hate it,
and i dont plan on drinking just to get me to pass out
thanks though
 
My friend *actually I swear*
did about 400mg in one night.
All snorted :! It was like 8 am and he was still going.

I let him do this of course, I wouldn't get in the way of this..
If his nose can do it.. MINE CAN!
 
ugh, im still awake and havent touched the shit for hours.

this is the last time i go near this stuff without etizolam or some other benzo.

seriously, anyone with anxiety issues should heed this realization aswell
 
^This.

Right now, I'm wired as hell and shaky, despite last dosing EPH about 9 hours ago. Far too DAergic for my liking. The initial euphoria is nice, the fiending and the burning combined with the uneasiness on the comedown is definitely not. I quit at the first sign of blood, chucked the remainder of my gram in the bin.

Managed to blast through most said gram (~920 mg?) yesterday over about 18 hours (!), my nose is dry as hell, and I've chewed the end of my tongue to shreds. :( Thankfully, my poor little abused heart seems to be holding up quite well, my BPM didn't top 100 the whole time, and my BP is slightly higher than normal, but not dangerously so. Just got the jitters, and severe case of the old fella retreating inside my abdomen...

One TR on Erowid refers to it as "legal crack", yep, damn fucking straight. This is mooooooreish stuff. Try as I might, I kept needing to redose. Redose. Redose. Redose... until about 12am this morning. And now I feel like crap. My own fault, I guess. (I spent my entire buzz writing a 6000 word trip report. My grammar apparently goes completely to hell on EPh.)

This substance requires a lot of self-control, and should only really be used as a study/concentration aid, at (pushing it) 30-50mg a day. Max. Oral. Any other ROA or use case is asking for trouble IMO.

tjsway said:
ugh, im still awake and havent touched the shit for hours.

this is the last time i go near this stuff without etizolam or some other benzo.

seriously, anyone with anxiety issues should heed this realization aswell
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Because Ethlyphenidate only blocks the Dopamine-Norepinephrine Reuptake transporter, shouldn't Ethlyphenidate be classified as an NDRI? and not a psychostimulant?

I am well-aware that methlyphenidate and ethylphenidate are very stimulating. However, the textbook definition of a stimulant is a substance that stimulates the release of Dopamine and/or Norepinephrine and from the looks of it, Ethlyphenidate seems to be exactly like Methlyphenidate in the respect that it blocks the Dopamine/Norepinephrine transporter and doesn't (necessarily) stimulant their release. Correct?
 
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SwampFox56 said:
Because Ethlyphenidate only blocks the Dopamine-Norepinephrine Reuptake transporter, shouldn't Ethlyphenidate be classified as an NDRI? and not a psychostimulant?
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It's both, an NDRI psychostimulant...

I am well-aware that methlyphenidate and ethylphenidate are very stimulating. However, the textbook definition of a stimulant is a substance that stimulates the release of Dopamine and/or Norepinephrine and from the looks of it, Ethlyphenidate seems to be exactly like Methlyphenidate in the respect that it blocks the Dopamine/Norepinephrine transporter and doesn't (necessarily) stimulant their release. Correct?
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The clue's in the NDRI classification. Ethylphenidate doesn't release any DA/NE itself, but (IIRC) takes the place of the endogenous ligand in question at the DAT/NET protein's binding site, preventing the protein from metabolizing the ligand into another (inactive) molecule, In turn, because "spent" (?) ligands are not being removed concentrations of neurotransmitters in the synaptic cleft higher than normal. (SSRIs work in a similar way.)

Someone feel free to correct me if I'm wrong. God knows how I can remember any of this at all in my state. :p
 
tjsway said:
you cant beat EPH + etizolam, they slightly cancel each other out, but not like alcohol and EPH would,

it gave me some amazing euphoria, though i'd advise only taking the etizolam after you're done with the EPH
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nah man alll about the combo
 
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