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RCs The Ethylphenidate (Ethyl phenyl(piperidin-2-yl)acetate) Megathread V1

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Haha, not at all surprised to see this thread hitting the top every now and then. Even thought it has been quite some time since I last used eph, the thought of going for just one bump keeps reappearing. If not for the fact that I know it will never be just one bump I prevent myself from indulging, but I can see the potential for addiction :p If not for the long, long residual stimulation I would have loved it as a regular thing.
 
I had quarter of a gram last night and used a 25mg quetiapine and it knocked me out in 20 mins. I wouldn't waste benzos.
 
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I've had very mixed experiences with Ethylphenidate, some of them fantastic.. other's absolutely terrifying. Benzo's are an absolute must when using this RC, out of nowhere I can become completely overwhelmed with anxiety and that awful "pushy" feeling. The worst of all when I foolishly eyeballed a dose that I would consider to be average nasally that turned out to be INSANELY strong when injected via IM. Spent roughly 6 hours climbing the walls and shitting my pants after that little episode... and naturally had no benzo's to hand at that particular time. Have tried a dose via IV which was a fantastic rush but again soon turned into an undesirable uncomfortable feeling. It's particularly frustrating as I know that when it's good, it's really good. But I'm left with trepidation after so many hit or miss ventures. Especially annoying as I've got bloody loads of it left. Might just eat a ton of Etizolam before I do it next time and see how that pans out.
 
A short review of my first experience with EPH
Hopefully this might me helpful to someone reading this and considering trying the stuff ;)

Got my first bag of ethylphenidate yesterday. Expected it to be crystalline (so it said on the suppliers website) , but what I got is a pretty fine white powder.Should I be worried about quality? Experiences?

Other than that, I tried it yesterday and I can say the stuff is absolutely fantastic.
I dissolved 1g of the powder in 100cc water to get a 10mg/mL solution. Dissolved easily and quickly in warm water.

Started with a very low dose to test for allergy and assess tolerance .. 10mg oral. Felt pretty much nothing.

After an hour I did 40mg oral. After about 10-20mins started feeling an increase in wellbeing, more alert, heart rate slightly elevated (from my normal which is about 50 to about 80-90, still feeling very good at this point) .. I started talking to people around me. I just sat in the living room and talked to my friend on the phone for about 1 hour without even realising how much time has passed ... I don't remember doing that anytime before as I'm normally a very quiet person. Then I felt like listening to some music. Techno/trance music sounded so awesome, even tho I never listen to that stuff otherwise. I just kinda felt like listening to some beats :) I logged in to my skype and started chatting with several people at the same time. This is also very unusal for me. I just felt good and I just kept chatting and led the conversation, the words just kinda flowing on my keyboard. Also I noticed myself not doing any typos at all while writing, which was another big "wow!" for me.

I dosed another 40mg oral at this point. Kicked in in about 20 mins again

When I looked what the time was I realised I spent 2 hours chatting to people I haven't talked to for months. Still felt very good at this point. I spent the next 2 hours surfing the web, reading different news and stuff and everything seemed more interesting than usual. Kept listening to techno music the whole time.

Dosed another 40mg oral.

Later I read through my clients emails, responded to them all and finish two of my articles which I had been procrastinating on for days. Somehow they just got interesting and I felt a big need to finish them as soon as possible. Got tons of other stuff done in the next few hours, I don't remember being this productive in a long time.

The effects started to wore off about 4 hours after the last dose. It wasn't a huge "crash", just started feeling kind of shitty. Energy levels were dropping and I started to feel "emotionally numb" in some way. Didn't feel like doing anything at that point, but I know this is a part of the "game" so I just force distracted myself by cleaning my appartment (which I had also been procrastinating on for way too long lol) I actually felt very good in the end lol. I was kind of tired but at the same time my eyes were wide open and I couldn't even imagine sleeping at that point. Also zero appetite or thirst. I forced myself to drink a liter of water and took 3 grams of GHB which knocked me out in a couple of minutes. Woke up after about 5 hours and felt perfectly normal and feeling great having done so many things I knew I should have (that was the reason why I decided to try the stuff in the first place.!)


So I would desribe the overall experience a bit like this:
- decent "clean" stimulation. No jitters, no shaking of the hands, no headaches or other symptoms of elevated blood pressure.
- the stimulation is much more "mental" than it is "physical" .. Meaning that I get tons of energy but can easily sit still for hours and focus on some particular task. I didn't feel any strong need to move like I do with most stimulants
- appetite and thirst were gone completely. I had to force myself to drink lots of water while on it. Also I didn't feel the need to pee as often as I normally would if I would drink as much water. Its like at some moment I just kinda remembered I haven't been to the bathroom for hours and realised my bladder was painfully full but I somehow completely forgot about it.
- if it wasn't for the GHB I probably wouldn't be able to sleep for hours after the main effects were gone. Some benzos would likely do the trick aswell but since I first GHB I never felt any need for them again as it works better and with much less sides (atleast for me)
- I felt much more sociable while on it and in a much better mood. I really enjoyed chatting with people and a few of them actually asked me what was going on and mentioned I sounded unusually happy =D

So personally my first experience with this substance is very positive. This is the first time I ever tried any of the RC's.
I have never tried methylphenidate (but am planning to do soon. Very much interested in how it compares to EPH) but I have tried many other stimulants and this one is probably my favourite so far. I hated speed as it made me way too jacked and I felt like I was having a heart attack. And I can't afford cocaine (and even if I would I'd probably want to stay away from it)

So for now I'll just stick to my coffee and red bull and save EPH only for special occassions when I'll need some extra kick in the ass.
 
I had some coke last night after nearly one year, seriously I think ethyl is shit now compared to coke.
 
Pisses me off this drug, just a messy head feeling with 3/10 euphoria. Oral dosing produces no euphoria, and snorting hurts and eats the flesh away!
 
lynx2051 said:
I had some coke last night after nearly one year, seriously I think ethyl is shit now compared to coke.
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Haha I hold the exact opposite view =D

You clearly get really good coke. Or really shit eph ;)
 
Ethyl feels much more arrogant than cocaine, probably because it doesn't work on serotonin.
 
Oh I forgot to mention, after my slight freakout about kidney damage, the next day I ended up going to hospital with a prolonged QT (unrelated to ethyl, from a medication I was taking). While I was there they did all of the standard tests for my liver and kidneys, and the results were interesting. Liver protein levels just under the normal range, as was globulin, though globulin was lower by a larger margin. Both can be indicative of the loss of protein through damage to the renal system. The urea:creatinine levels were also slightly under the normal range, indicating possible intra-renal damage. Creatinine and urea were both a little high but within the normal range, I eat a lot of protein so that's not that strange. As well as this, my GFR is 77 - I'm in my early twenties, so that's a bit low, nothing much to worry about but all the same interesting. From this I feel pretty confident to say that ethylphenidate possibly does affect the renal system in a negative way, though not to the extent that one long binge is going to give you renal failure haha. Just posting this in the spirit of harm reduction.

Oh, and previously I had experienced pain in my kidneys, ureters and bladder after using ethylphenidate, and obviously this is a sign one should stop. However I had a big exam in a couple of days and I desperately needed the focus. 30mg of ethylphenidate dissolved in water with lemon juice and N-acetyl-cysteine, along with an ibuprofen (to prevent any inflammatory damage before it began) and drinking copious amounts of water effectively got rid of any pain or discomfort, and there was no lingering pain later in that day or the day after either. All the same it did make me urinate a hell of a lot, so the effects on the renal system are still there. Just a heads up for anyone that is looking to reduce any damage. NAC and the vitamin C from the lemon juice are the precursors to the antioxidant enzyme glutathione, which will reduce any reactive oxygen species damage. I don't think I'll ever use this substance again, which sucks because it gives me a better focus than even amphetamine. I've yet to try ritalin though, which I imagine will fit the bill nicely.
 
Got 6g of this a couple months ago. Only use it when I go out, so once every couple weeks. Still got loads left :D I find it a great substance. Good euphoria, and brilliant mental clarity, but can get a bit paranoid in a packed bar. I find bombing about 30mg at a time a few times over the night is best. Sometimes mix it with kratom extract to take the edge off it, (and doubles the euphoria) and gulp it down with a cider. Excellent :)

Sleep is impossible after a full night at it, but no problem. The lack of a noticeable comedown means you can still handle the next day, aslong as you have nothing too tasking to do
 
Throwawayaus
Whilst I still stand firmly on what I said to you before about renal failure, going on my far too prolonged experience with using EPH, you are clearly intelligent and have some good knowledge in this area, so I am interested in how you have gained an in-depth knowledge of biology and what your test results mean and if they can be attributed to the EPH you used?

Because if they are then I am most definitely fucked internally somewhere,
I know I can't realistically have gotten away completely unscathed and has been a concern for a while although I haven't had any symptoms lately that can confirm that possibility. I did consume *EDIT* *an insane amount, ++5g*in a binge about a week ago and that cannot in anyway be healthy obviously!
 
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Groundhog said:
Throwawayaus
Whilst I still stand firmly on what I said to you before about renal failure, going on my far too prolonged experience with using EPH, you are clearly intelligent and have some good knowledge in this area, so I am interested in how you have gained an in-depth knowledge of biology and what your test results mean and if they can be attributed to the EPH you used?

Because if they are then I am most definitely fucked internally somewhere,
I know I can't realistically have gotten away completely unscathed and has been a concern for a while although I haven't had any symptoms lately that can confirm that possibility. I did consume *EDIT* *an insane amount, ++5g*in a binge about a week ago and that cannot in anyway be healthy obviously!
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I'm a student of biology and upon getting my discharge summary I just did some research on the tests to understand what they meant, and the tests have healthy ranges on them. It's entirely possible this isn't from ethylphenidate, but it WAS what I was using prior to being admitted. It could also just be individual sensitivity to it, who knows, research chemicals and all that. Just to ease your mind, why don't you go to the doctor and ask to get a blood and urine workup - liver and kidney function tests can be done from that. Shouldn't cost you too much at all, in Australia I think it cost me $30, UK is probably quite cheap as well but the US might be more expensive but it will tell us what the effects of long term use are.
 
Albion said:
Haha I hold the exact opposite view =D

You clearly get really good coke. Or really shit eph ;)
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I found I subjectively enjoyed Ethylphenidate more than Cocaine because it *didn't* get me so high. I enjoyed the way I'd spend the day reading and writing, tidying up my room, playing guitar, seeming to actually finish everything I started. With Cocaine I tend to be in a state of "too high to care."

That said I can't imagine how stepped on your coke must've been if you found Eth more pleasurable in and of itself.
 
I found an abandoned baggie of ethylphenidate in a draw the other night and decided to give it another go after having sworn off it months ago. I'm not sure what if anything I expected to be different, because it was just as I remember it. For some reason I find this probably one of the most compulsive things I've ever used. I really don't find the experience productive or even enjoyable. After I've snorted a line, the only thing I want to do is snort more lines, and talk some shit. I don't want to move at all.

And that's how it was this evening. After the second line I just parked myself in front of the TV, emptied out the contents of the baggie on the back of a hardcover dictionary, racked up some lines and did them in 20 minute intervals until there was none left.

During that I was twitchy, couch-locked, having these little bursts of euphoria followed by equally intense bursts of anxiety, and just basically a bundle of nerves.

What a weird substance. I can pace myself with amphetamines, and even when smoking a-PVP. But EPH makes me nutty.
 
I found an abandoned baggie of ethylphenidate in a draw the other night and decided to give it another go after having sworn off it months ago. I'm not sure what if anything I expected to be different, because it was just as I remember it. For some reason I find this probably one of the most compulsive things I've ever used. I really don't find the experience productive or even enjoyable. After I've snorted a line, the only thing I want to do is snort more lines, and talk some shit. I don't want to move at all.

And that's how it was this evening. After the second line I just parked myself in front of the TV, emptied out the contents of the baggie on the back of a hardcover dictionary, racked up some lines and did them in 20 minute intervals until there was none left.

During that I was twitchy, couch-locked, having these little bursts of euphoria followed by equally intense bursts of anxiety, and just basically a bundle of nerves.

What a weird substance. I can pace myself with amphetamines, and even when smoking a-PVP. But EPH makes me nutty.
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You're re-dosing too often, I got like this when I dosed every 15 minutes. Try every 45.
 
does anyone else find eating not a problem on this. Even 30 minutes after my last dose I can eat food just fine.
 
lynx2051 said:
does anyone else find eating not a problem on this. Even 30 minutes after my last dose I can eat food just fine.
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Definitely! In the midst of a session I can force food down and even slightly enjoy it...

As far as redosing is concerned, I often find that the previous line always takes longer to kick in than you think, so I'd agree with Lynx to wait at least 45m between doses. Often the last 15 minutes before you need a top up are the best ...
 
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