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RCs The Ethylphenidate (Ethyl phenyl(piperidin-2-yl)acetate) Megathread V1

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I've been on/off ephylphenidate every day for a week now. Apart from the unfortunate state my nose is in and the inevitable loss of sleep, I haven't encountered any worrying side effects despite the constant use. It still gets me high every time, although I think the euphoria has gradually softened. As for the comparison to cocaine, I've never had coke that feels as good as EPH, and the genuinely unhealthy cardiovascular side effects cocaine causes aren't present at all. So for me it's cleaner, safer, more euphoric and much longer acting than cocaine, although I'm sure cocaine is more euphoric if it's above a certain purity. The sort of high it provides is a sharp, enthusiastic state of mind that derives joy from focusing on a task. Competitive activities are also great fun on EPH. Libido increases substantially as well.

As for dosages, it seems like EPH requires higher doses than methylphenidate/ritalin. I'd say 30-50mg insufflated provides a good buzz without too much stimulantion, with reports of excessive stimulation at 100mg or greater. There's no need whatsoever to dose that much in one go though, especially for your first time.
 
JSPete said:
I've been on/off ephylphenidate every day for a week now. Apart from the unfortunate state my nose is in and the inevitable loss of sleep, I haven't encountered any worrying side effects despite the constant use. It still gets me high every time, although I think the euphoria has gradually softened. As for the comparison to cocaine, I've never had coke that feels as good as EPH, and the genuinely unhealthy cardiovascular side effects cocaine causes aren't present at all. So for me it's cleaner, safer, more euphoric and much longer acting than cocaine, although I'm sure cocaine is more euphoric if it's above a certain purity. The sort of high it provides is a sharp, enthusiastic state of mind that derives joy from focusing on a task. Competitive activities are also great fun on EPH. Libido increases substantially as well.

As for dosages, it seems like EPH requires higher doses than methylphenidate/ritalin. I'd say 30-50mg insufflated provides a good buzz without too much stimulantion, with reports of excessive stimulation at 100mg or greater. There's no need whatsoever to dose that much in one go though, especially for your first time.
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dude: having been a cocaine addict myself. the "ive been on it for a week" comment has given me some serious concerns about this now!! is this the first time you took it to make it a week long session? is this your usual pattern of binge/session on a drug, or has this compound "taken you" as it were? ie. is it really really that scarily fiendish as it sounds?
 
missimoo said:
dude: having been a cocaine addict myself. the "ive been on it for a week" comment has given me some serious concerns about this now!! is this the first time you took it to make it a week long session? is this your usual pattern of binge/session on a drug, or has this compound "taken you" as it were? ie. is it really really that scarily fiendish as it sounds?
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Nah I tried out a gram of EPH with a friend a few weeks ago, and really liked it. I basically ordered 3g of it to spice up my time home over Christmas. My track record of usage this week isn't exactly great (4 late nights and 3 all-nighters) but I do have a habit of doing this with most drugs until they eventually run out. I'm not sure whether you can class me as 'taken' by it or not. I've been lost in the moment, but I'm looking forwards to finishing the rest and resume business as usual again. Make no mistake though, EPH is very fun and you will be wanting to take more after the peak effects.
 
JSPete said:
...Use the search fucking? 8)

I've been on/off the ethylphenidate for a few days now. It's so mercifully clean and easy to tolerate. Not one heart palpitation as of yet!

I've only been sniffing small bumps of it, topping up every hour or so. My nose is getting in a bad way though, I'm seriously going to have to try other ROA or else it feels as though my nose will get too badly burned. The pain when this stuff shoots up your barren nasal passages is substantial.
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Exact same story here. Tried snorting it for the first time with a completely dry nose yesterday. Think it's a bit too corrosive, so I've gotten to mixing small amounts sublingually with an oral dose, and it works great. Redoing with sublingual also works. And small amounts of it doesn't sting the mouth, just numbs it a bit.

How do you find coming down period?
And how about the following day, any signs of sadness? :L

EDIT: Actually, just read what you said about sublingual use. What about keeping it under your tongue, is it at all likely to lead to loss of sense of taste?
I'm just not really sure about snorting it, because I'm not sure about how well the nose actually heals, if I'm honest :L
 
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I used sub-lingual once and it literally burned away the flesh. Still fucking hurts....There's no way it's viable as worthwhile ROA.

Seriously, I don't think I've ever encountered a drug as immediately physically damaging as this one. And people think mephedrone hurts. Well, it does, but EPH downright attacks any tissue it comes into contact with. It'd probably burn your skin if you left it there long enough.


In terms of cardiotoxicity...From what I've observed through a pretty heavy week of usage, it's minimal, if present at all. That's just my anecdotal opinion though.

As for neurotoxicity, there's good reason to believe that ethylphenidate is actually neuroprotective if the qualities observed in methylphenidate in this scientific study are also present in ethylphenidate.

The biggest health concern really seems to be the corrosive nature of the chemical itself. I shudder at the thought of IVing it and having it eat away at your veins...Or plugging it, and knowing it's corroding the walls of your rectum :!


But all in all...seems like the positives outweighs the negatives when it comes to possible physical harm. Its capacity for abuse and psychological harm, however, is probably a different story altogether...
 
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JSPete said:
I used sub-lingual once and it literally burned away the flesh. Still fucking hurts....There's no way it's viable as worthwhile ROA.
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My sublingual doses were always tiny amounts, not enough to damage me that badly. By either way, they definitely added to the effects. But considering it's so corrosive... Think I'll keep away from that.
JSPete said:
Seriously, I don't think I've ever encountered a drug as immediately physically damaging as this one. And people think mephedrone hurts. Well, it does, but EPH downright attacks any tissue it comes into contact with. It'd probably burn your skin if you left it there long enough.
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You're completely right there! Definitely hurts more going up, and I suppose if you were snorting the same quantities in one sitting, the pain the next day would be far more.
JSPete said:
The biggest health concern really seems to be the corrosive nature of the chemical itself. I shudder at the thought of IVing it and having it eat away at your veins...Or plugging it, and knowing it's corroding the walls of your rectum :!
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JSPete said:
Or plugging it, and knowing it's corroding the walls of your rectum :!
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*winces*
JSPete said:
corroding the walls of your rectum
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Aside from physical harm, my only complaint would have to be that it isn't very stimulating. That's one of my favourite things about stimulants... Funnily enough...
I'd say the actual stimulant side competes with the euphoria aspect. So, I kinda miss it with this substance.
 
JSPete said:
The biggest health concern really seems to be the corrosive nature of the chemical itself. I shudder at the thought of IVing it and having it eat away at your veins...Or plugging it, and knowing it's corroding the walls of your rectum :!
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"corroding the walls of your rectum" what a sentence. i am now forming a band called "corroded rectum" on that alone. anyone want in? :p
 
are there any studies about eph and it´s health risks ? are they the same as with methylphenidate ?
 
So what is the dosage? Is the pain on the nose THAT bad. I was used to snorting Mephedrone.
 
lynx2051 said:
So what is the dosage? Is the pain on the nose THAT bad. I was used to snorting Mephedrone.
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Personally I found Mephedrone to be one of the more comfortable chems I've put up my nose, but then I've not insuffulated that much of any drug in a single session (not my prefered ROA).

EPH has gotta be easier on the nose than 4-FA at least.
 
I've got half a gram coming in the post next week. I was either going to do 35mg oral or 30mg snorted. Do you think this is an okay dose?
 
I may give smoking some EPH a go, my nose is still totally ruined. Means I can't snort my 4-HO-MET grr. Do like this stuff although a few of my friends have come back saying its a little underwhelming for them, but im no fan of stims.
 
50mg lines for winners

Just crushed the gravelly glassy powder and snorted 50mg. It looks like tiny crystals, not the clumps I've seen associated with negative, anxiolytic accounts I've read. It was purchased from one of the reputable rc vendors.

The stuff burns like crystalline ket, but it's no crushed pill horror. Make sure you grind it down though.

+15 minutes - first alert, like doing a little line of ok coke.

20 mins- My heart slightly pumpy. Pleasant but subtle rush within me. I have some time off so when the postman delivered this morning, I bumped and climbed back into bed with my iPad and my girlfriend sleeping beside me.

30 mins- bit more head rushy now. Still feel fairly chilled. Feel up and good. Already a slight temptation to take more to make it more rushy but I'll sit tight for now. Throat a little tight but in a cokey way. I feel flushed with adrenaline.

36 Mins- tempted to do a little more. Yep. Did a little more, +-30mg. Returned to bed. Listening to early Bowie and feel good


1hr- The gIrlfriend woke up and did some too. I did 50mg more. It burned her nose more than mine. Pain fades fast.

1h30 - so overall it's a nice clean stimulant which perks you up well and gets you going, think of it as a kick start. Its not quite fiendish enough to turn an evening out into a week long Charlie sheen naked-hooker frenzy. Which is surely good, no? Music is boppier and it's good to chat without yabbering like the guy in the dirty tracksuit at the bus stop. Again, good. It's not going to please the leather headed meph fans, but I like its smooth and clean stimulation.


Overall-

B+ perfect for socialising, hanging. Maybe dancing but it's not MDMA like in euphoria.

1- For a decent push start with a 50mg line, chopped well.
2- It lasts about an hour or two for pleasant rushy effects, stimulation Im sure will be much longer.
3- It's not coke but could be considered cokes less mental, much much lighter cousin.
Diet Coke?
 
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I think I'll give snorting a miss for this chem. Maybe 40mg oral. Fingers crossed it will come in the post tomorrow as I am looking forward to trying this. I've been off stimulants for about a year accept the occasional dose of MPA to relieve boredom. I used to be quite addicted to MDPV about a year and a half ago even though it had a hellish comedown.

Is this quite addictive? Also how long does it last and would you be able to take it withought looking mashed ect? Excuse my bad typing I'm on 2mg of etizolam right now. :)
 
+5 hrs and still doing 50mg lines every 40 mins, with some gbl.

Really nice to hang out on just chilling with music in bed with gf. No not libidinous but bodily stimulating, pretty rushy with beating heart. Fairly moreish but not terrible fiendish ness. Good mental clarity and never overwhelming.

Good stuff, not life changing but decent craic.

Edit- have slight hyperventilation symptom I get with stims sometimes, like I can't take a full breath, but think that's just particular to me.
 
Music is really nice. Well it makes me want to listen to four tet, early Elton and electronica.

My girlfriend very very chatty. I tend to be quieter on stims.
 
Smoked ethylphenidate, gave me a very nice body high also paired with an almost drunk like mental state. Made headache at the time worse so I went to sleep?.
 
Okay so my shipment ordered this morning. Ordered an extra half gram to coincide with the other half id already ordered as I had a sneaking suspicion it may be necessary and boy was I right.
The crystals are small and white and most of it is completely fine so it doesn't look like much in the bag.
anyway excitement got the better of me and me and the mrs railed an eyeballed line that was roughly 20mg at a guess. After 10 mins not much felt. So railed 2 more lines for us id say probably 30mg in size and boy howdy those did the trick. Very nice euphoric rush that sorta faded quite quickly but left us chatting beans for a good hour or two. Decided to leave it at that as I was due on shift tonight. After peak effects faded I started to REALLY crave another dose, which is in my nature anyway but man I mean I felt like I NEEDED this next rail. My precise problem with drone back in the day. All in all I love it but for fienders like me it's gonna be a nightmare haha!

Thoroughly recommend but peak effects die quickly and residual stimulation lasts for a very long time. Even after 10mg diazepam
 
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