Opioids The Effects of Opiates, Specifically Heroin, on Meditation and Spirituality

[WakingSpirits]

So, I got my first thread ever rejected and removed. heh. Oops.
However, the moderator did make the suggestion that the section in my post concerning meditation was somewhat original, and that I should re-post a thread oriented around the concepts of opiate withdrawals and meditation.
So, let me explain a few things up front. I have been meditating for almost 3 years now on a very regular basis. I practice Chi Gong daily and meditate as often as I can.
Through my fight against my own addiction, I used meditation as a stepping stone from a junkie to someone who helps others out with their addictions.
The two topics I would like to cover here are:
1) Using meditation to curb withdrawals
and ...
2) Opiates and it's affect on energy work and meditation

I have found that it is possible to completely curb first day withdrawals with meditation. At least in my experience. In my training, my instructor teaches conscious serotonin and endorphin release. There are many ways to go about learning this technique, so I'm not going to go into that right now. However, I have found, if you put in about an hours worth of laying meditation (after, of course, learning proper meditation techniques) you can completely keep all withdrawal symptoms at bay. You will most likely need to put in an hour meditation several times within the first day at the first sign of each withdrawal symptom that surfaces throughout the day. The problem lies within attempting to get into the second day. When you get to sleep, you no longer are capable of consciously subduing the symptoms. The problem with this is that you will wake up the second day deep into withdrawals. It seems that there is a threshold of withdrawal severity where which if you pass that threshold of a specific gravity of severity, meditation becomes useless. After this threshold is passed, you will no longer be capable of using meditation to bring it back down. This is something I am interested in investigating further, and if anyone is interested in helping with some of my meditation research, I would be more than happy to form some cooperation.

The second topic is on how opiates affect energy work. For those of you who are familiar with this, and/or believe in spiritual energy, this should make some form of sense. It appears that medium to large doses of opiates tend to "loosen" the energy body. So much so, that with very little preparation and meditation while under the influence of an opiate, one may find it unusually easy to emit large amounts of energy that another person may feel it quite easily. This emission may be described as an electric shock slightly less violent than a good 110-120V wall socket jolt. After further investigation into this phenomena, it has become apparent that it is not just the relaxing nature of opiates which cause the 'astral matrix' to loosen. I believe it is a more spiritual property of the opiate family. Astral projection becomes much easier, as well as otherworldly communications and visions. One of the most frequent, and easily induced experiences is the "tapping whorble". This sensation will manifest itself after having become intoxicated with an opiate, getting into a light-level meditation, and lightly tapping an object. After a few taps, you will experience an energetic displacement sensation wherein your energy will leave through the finger or palm at the moment of impact. You will feel your energy "whorble" and vibrate with a high density and low level vibration. This energetic vibration will echo throughout the object you have tapped several times, such that it will feel like an extremely heavy 5 to 20 mhz vibration. You will be able to feel the object from within. After the whorble, the energy will "snap" back into place within your arm/palm/fingers.

This whorble is quite real. Be aware of that. Should you attempt to project the whorble onto another person or animal, due to the nature of weirdness, you will most likely frighten that person. I would recommend against this. You don't want any friends thinking you're some sort of demon or spawn of Satan.

So, there you have it. Two topics I thought would interest some of you. If you have any questions, feel free to contact me.
Thanks,
--TJW

 

[poppyplanet]

I'm sorry no one has yet to respond beside me. I'll chime in here though. As far as curbing withdrawal with meditation, well, for me, that's almost a ridiculous notion. That's me though. With meditating to reach "astral projection and other worldly communication" as you stated it, I'm sure can be done with the right mindset and belief system but that is again, me, and alot of people differ on their idea of what spirituality is and suppose to be. Back, years ago, when I first was introduced to drugs like ecstacy and mushrooms, the effects I received from them felt like an experience similar to a spiritual one, so I know where you're getting at here. But to be honest, and I hope you don't get to this point, but the more you participate in opiate use, the more you're probably going to disbelieve your statement of meditating to avoid withdrawal, because, let's face it, withdrawal is brutal, especially with opiates.

 

[burn out]

I consider myself to be a pretty spiritual person. I spend a lot of time in prayer --and I've read quite a bit on the spiritual path, higher consciousness, meditation, etc. I also happen to be a heroin addict. I'd say that heroin addiction ( like most if not all addictions) I would think is detrimental to spiritual and emotional growth. Not only does it allow you to numb feelings, it creates strong attachments to it, this binding you to the physical. I must admit however, than you kind of lost me with this whorble stuff.

 

[WakingSpirits]

I have definitely found, that in prolonged opiate use, and trust me man, I've been through the opiate ringer more than enough times, the "spiritual" aspect definitely begins to dim. I think the more ritualistic and occasional use of opiates, accompanied with a high respect of the drug is what allows the more spiritual side of the drug to come out. After a prolonged use, the "loosening" happens less and less. So yes, good point. Thanks for bringing that up.

 

[WakingSpirits]

hehe - "whorble" is really the only made-up word I can come up with that describes the experience. But yes. I agree with you. I believe I somewhat answered your concern with my reply to @poppyplanet 's post. Prolonged opiate use dims the spiritual side of the drug. It's the occasional ritual-like use that brings the heavy artillery out. At least in my experience.

 

[WakingSpirits]

But yeah - I would definitely not try to use meditation to curb withdrawals if you're a beginning meditation practitioner. The ability to release your natural drugs and to consciously moderate the extent of the symptoms is not something one can learn over night, or even after several months. It took me nearly two years to really get it down to the point where I was able to pull this off.