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The EADD Metathread - Let's talk about how we can improve EADD

dickheads, cunts, all depends eh =D Please don't take me so literally when I call myself a dickhead.

I like the banter here, the whole reason I joined is because I saw people having fun and sharing good information. Not sure what you're on about vis-a-vis homogenisation.

I definitely feel there is no place for actual homophobia, sexism, racism, blah de blah de blah; or if there is, there should not be. But I don't think having a small, special set of select people enforcing compliance with that is a very good answer. It gives me a bad neck, for one thing.

Not calling you a dickhead! I had just woken up, so's me brain ain't ticking over properly yet.

What I meant by homogenisation is that EADD has different standards to other parts of bluelight - and I like that.
I find the lounge too smart arse and memes-y, but people can talk, argue and say things here in EADD that would be UA'd elsewhere.
It's what has drawn me to it - the seriousness, or downright stupidity of the bulk of some subforums can get a little boring.
I wanted a change from my 'home' subforum, and EADD banter has been fun.
I've said some things here that would have been unapproved in AusDD - which is not to say that I would like to see all of bluelight go that way - on the contrary.
EADD folks - from what I've seen in the last couple of months, fwiw - seem to have a sense of humour in their quarrels and insults. That's something lacking elsewhere, and I think it is a cultural (British?) phenomenon.

But my opinion ain't really worth shit - just giving you my outsider's, "reformed moderator" thoughts on the topic.
I might have sleepily misunderstood the point to begin with. Fuck this hot weather.
 
@marmz yeah i tend to prefer challenging people with words than snipping and infracting. I think that's a rather mainstream view here though here on EADD, and people do challenge things.

@spacejunk oh yeah no doubt EADD is great in those ways ;) and your opinion is worth something. I suspect you're a human being, in which case we share a planet, and are quite closely related ;)

back @marmz, here's a possibility, posts which had "sexist" content could be marked as sexist, and people who didn't want to see them and didn't feel up to challenging them could set a user preference to exclude them from their view of the forum.


maybe you really can please everybody, if everyone is in control of what they see.
 
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What is this 'let's create a fuckload of unnecessary shit to do' day? (genuinely not just being negative for the sake of it) ... I'm normally pretty contructive and come up with ways to solve recurring problems here .... but the above suggestion is catering to a non problem imo.

Probably 50% of what I write is sexist and includes the objectification of people. Totally shameless about it.

Basic observation skills and taking the time to observe what you find generally offensive and from which posters takes a bit of time investment, but eventually you form your own opinions on who's worth listening to and who isn't. There are other forum tools to deal with that.

I think you're over thinking things atm, and I'd let things just 'be' for a while and see what happens.

In the meantime, why not do something constructive ... have a wank or something =D ... or work on your slash dot project

Board needs some settling time to see how things go imo

ps: <3
 
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i dont like the idea of anonymous ratings at all, i can see a mile off how it will turn out; popular members like Shambles will get approval/rep/status/w/e points w/e he posts, (probably because nearly all of his posts are well received) whilst characters like OTW for example i cant see getting innundated with positive feedback, allthough he does seem to be 'growing on' quite a few people. I really dislike the idea of anonymous negative feedback, if a members' post is out of order in any way then they should be able to see who dislikes it and exactly why they dislike it.
 
Maybe I should make a metathread metathread megathread for discussion of the metathread? =D
 
This discussion has nothing to do with HR! Read the fucking posts, Dan! :D

Job isn't done, sorted or jobbed. I'm still a moderator, and if I wasn't, I would be moderated by moderators. Neither of these situations is convenient for me!

No hurry though.

Oh, explanation marks: !!!!!!!!
 
What I think Si Ingwe has failed to grasp is this simple fact:

"Don't" is fucking lousy harm reduction advice.

And thinking anything else simply betrays a misunderstanding of human nature so crass that it is difficult to ascribe to anything but a conscious effort of will, because it's hard work being that wrong. Once someone's mind is made up that they want to try drugs, all the "Don't" in the world is not going to change their mind.

And actually, as long as you can afford a stable, long-term supply of good-quality product, opiates don't do anything irreversible to the body, precisely because they mimick a naturally-occurring hormone. What does the actual harm is all the secondary stuff. For instance, the act of scoring costs money and time and opens you up to risk. Some routes of administration are especially risky (and would be so even if one was properly aware of the purity of the drug). Being in an altered state of consciousness carries its own risks.

But just saying "don't do it, kids!" is worse than useless. And this should be obvious, if you think about it long enough. Rebellious behaviour -- doing something that you have been told not to -- is one of the basic instincts that manifests in all gregarious predators. It's a built-in evolutionary safeguard against the pack leader being wrong, and populations without it would perish in short order.

As long as there are rich pop stars taking heroin and enjoying themselves without dying, just telling some teenager from a deprived inner-city housing estate with nothing else to look forward to not to take it is going to have precisely no effect. The only thing that might work is explaining the actual downsides in full detail. Knowing that you might have to stand in the pouring rain for an hour waiting for a pick-up, or what it is going to feel like going through a full-on cluck, might help dissuade someone.
 
Rebellious behaviour -- doing something that you have been told not to -- is one of the basic instincts that manifests in all gregarious predators. It's a built-in evolutionary safeguard against the pack leader being wrong, and populations without it would perish in short order.

I've never thought of it like that - the evolutionary safeguard thing. I've long known rebellion is a fact, but I've never heard of or reasoned the evolutionary cause.

That's excellent. Thanks.
 
@ Becoming Julie, Does that include people comitting crimes like GBH, robberies, burgalaries, murders, scamming people ?
Yes, sometimes, unfortunately -- but the people who do try those sorts of things generally tend to find out pretty quickly that there's a good reason why people don't usually go around doing those sorts of things.

Most people can work out for themselves why certain things are bad. The usual "teenage rebellion" crimes tend to be ones perceived as victimless -- a bit of petty shoplifting, low-level fraud and experimentation with drugs.

@ knock -- in pre-scientific, tribal societies, the tendency to rebellious behaviour would have acted to break the entrenchment of neutral or moderately harmful superstitions.
 
In a unilateral attempt to improve server performance, I'm going to archive a bunch of old threads, I'm only choosing from those which have not been posted in for over a year. (edit: actually I've moved recent Friday, Birthday and Inbox threads too.)

They will still be available in the archive, but archived threads can't be posted in. They can be unarchived if people feel strongly about them, so this is not something to get worked up about. You can let us know in here, if a thread you want to post in has been archived.

edit: it's done, I've moved over half of the threads to the archive. A lot of them could be deleted (empty your inbox / it's Friday) but we can worry about that later.
 
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