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The EADD Metathread - Let's talk about how we can improve EADD

i have a feeling etiz might actually be easier to reduce and withdraw from than regular benzos, i have no evidence whatsoever, nothing to compare it against, but when i last reduced by 3/4 of the original ammount i was taking there were no untoward effects. A long drawn out gradual taper seems to be quite forgiving IME so far.
 
erm i have been through stages of that, mosttly with phenazepam rather than etiz, i made some kind of dosing error in one of my etiz powder and mpg mixes so wasnt sure how much i was taking with that batch, but over the last couple of weeks i have started counting again, and reducing. Ive reduced by 4mg allready with no problems. Still got a fucking long way to go though.
 
^ http://www.bluelight.ru/vb/threads/...m)-warning-(Blepharospasms-possibly-permanent)

Seems to be a risk with many benzos, but Etizolam has - seemingly - a higher incidence of this side effect.
I experienced it. It was irritating and visible to people I was talking (not just like a twitching nerve that you feel but isnt visible to others.
It went away upon cessation of Etizolam, but I was very concerned it could have been permanent.

I admit I haven't read all the studies about that are around the place, but i can dig some journal articles up at work tomorrow if anyone is interested.
I must say though, my experience (having encountered most benzos in the last decade or two) was enough to never want any more, pleasant and useful as the effects are.
Triazolam is better, if you can get your hands on it.

I am heartened to see Busty asking about grey market "research chems" though.
Personally, I'd recommend....no, above suggesting horseshit to you - I'm going to stick to the purpose of bluelight and suggest you get a legit script of a legit benzo.
I get the impression that Etizolam isn't scripted in the west for a reason, but I may be way off with that - could just be a patent issue or some crap like that.
 
mydrugbuddy said:
if you're thinking of adopting an anonymous feedback system like the drugs forum uses, please do not do that. IMO its an awfull inception, at worst it gives people free reign to slag off a post and poster entirely anonymously. Thats the last thing we need here IMO.
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I agree that drugs-forum is a poor implementation. However I have experience of better implementations. I would not suggest we became like drugs forum. These things are quite nuanced, and clever systems can be developed that work well.
 
One Thousand Words said:
Personally I would rank drugs on their safety and/or level of research. Kind of like the mortality charts that tells us that alcohol is more harmful than heroin (a load of bollocks by the way). It would be a big job considering the alphabet soup of drugs out there today but it would go a long way to discouraging kids from taking drugs because they are "semilegal" or cheaper than tried and tested ones.
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Yeah, it's a good idea. Too many people seem to assume that if something's legal, it's "safe".

knock said:
I would say etiz is pretty safe if it's dosed sensibly and not combined with alcohol in silly quantities. I speak from experience. OTOH I think it's just as dangerous as other benzo type drugs.
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How much Science has been done on the long-term effects of etiz, compared to older/commonly prescribed benzos, though? I don't consider safety to be just about the immediate effects.
 
I know etizolam's pretty widely prescribed in India, so I'd assume considerable research has been done. Over what length of time I'm not sure though.

The other new benzo analogues are a different matter. And even the trusted benzos have some horrible long-term side effects as it is!
 
spacejunk said:
Feedback/ratings systems seem like a troll's dream...or is it just me?
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that's what meta-moderation and karma are for. If you ain't used slashdot, you don't know.

In slashdot, trolls get moderated as trolls and poor modding gets marked as poor modding. Trolls end up with fuck all karma so they can't moderate or meta-moderate.
 
^ nope, I haven't. But you guys seem to be doing a good job so why change it?
Admittedly I didn't lurk much around these parts during more troubled times...
 
spacejunk said:
^ nope, I haven't. But you guys seem to be doing a good job so why change it?
Admittedly I didn't lurk much around these parts during more troubled times...
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Cos I think being a moderator, and being moderated by moderators, is shit =D


People have better things to do with their time. I want to distribute the load so it's not irksome. I also want everyone to have a say, not just some bunch of fucking dickheads.

Even good dickheads!
 
Good dickheads....I understand "good cunts", but good dickheads is a bit hard to fathom.

I know that my time modding AusDD was a lot less complicated than EADD...but I must say I like a lot of the banter here.
Sure, some is insensitive or offensive - and I'm sure finding a middle ground is hard, but from my POV the current mods are doing real well.
Cultural differences should be celebrated, not homogenised IMHO
 
spacejunk said:
Good dickheads....I understand "good cunts", but good dickheads is a bit hard to fathom.

I know that my time modding AusDD was a lot less complicated than EADD...but I must say I like a lot of the banter here.
Sure, some is insensitive or offensive - and I'm sure finding a middle ground is hard, but from my POV the current mods are doing real well.
Cultural differences should be celebrated, not homogenised IMHO
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dickheads, cunts, all depends eh =D Please don't take me so literally when I call myself a dickhead.

I like the banter here, the whole reason I joined is because I saw people having fun and sharing good information. Not sure what you're on about vis-a-vis homogenisation.

I definitely feel there is no place for actual homophobia, sexism, racism, blah de blah de blah; or if there is, there should not be. But I don't think having a small, special set of select people enforcing compliance with that is a very good answer. It gives me a bad neck, for one thing.
 
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replace dickhead with knobjockey imeimhotbph*





* yeah, I need to lay off TL for a bit

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and honestly, you're being VERY optimistic at being able to eliminate sexism here, it's part and parcel of EADD, and in terms of it being 'discriminating' ... well, it's not really, not in the forum.

[would no sexism mean I'd have to stop and cease being a covert PM sex pest?]

I may as well get me coat already ;p
 
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Marmalade said:
and honestly, you're being VERY optimistic at being able to eliminate sexism here, it's part and parcel of EADD, and in terms of it being 'discriminating' ... well, it's not really.
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Well, I could just get all snippy on it! But you know fine well that I don't.

Do you think sexism is a good thing? Do you think it needs challenged, or just allowed to slide?

I know sometimes people use sexist talk in an ironic way, or even just in a thoughtless way that doesn't actually represent their true position. But regardless of intent, sexist talk encourages sexist attitudes. Maybe in a very tiny way, when you take each occurrence in isolation, but taken as a whole I think it's a somewhat serious issue.
 
knock said:
Well, I could just get all snippy on it! But you know fine well that I don't.

Do you think sexism is a good thing? Do you think it needs challenged, or just allowed to slide?
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The thought of doing it is way too corporate thinking in my mind. For instance, I actually love reading both Kenny and TLM rampant misogynisms. Theyre completely engrossing. And this 'ere keyboard can type up a response ... and then have a conversation about it .. if it chooses to

I'd hate it if sexism were to be managerially discouraged in truth. It's too protectionist, and unnecessary, almost to the point of being patronising
 
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