I wasn't going to post in this thread again but I've been inspired.
Mugz
is just fucking annoying when people go beyond banter to just outright cuntishness.
Mugz
this isn't the right thread for jostling though really is it???????
If you had read those you would have realised they were NSFW'd because it was a bit of a clear the air type chat between Marmalade. Nothing to do with making you look like an idiot. As for outright cuntishness, if you had actually read the conversation/context and then thought.. and have I really been cuntish or inconciderate at all to you lately? I think not.
As brimz has already said, he feels pushed out of it because it went way off track. I know it is in EADD so jostling is to be expected, but would be nice if some people at least showed some respect for the intentions of the thread.
Brimz alienated himself from his thread be he also couldn't read, accused me of 'advocating drugs to fix all lifes problems' when I was basically saying to ColtDan I didn't think disocciatives would help you much. He pretty much derailed the thread himself and brought up a topic he is completely clueless about and had no source/substance in his arguement, and was handed both a source and about 3 different people all saying it had worked for them. If he's in the huff over that he should read things properly and try to substantiate his argument he wouldn't of came out looking so daft.
He also wanted to change the criteria of the thread after this cos he was in a huff
![:\](https://bluelight.org/xf/BL_Images/Orig_Emoji/wrygrin.gif "wry grin :\")
Sam
As for the inappropriate nature (or otherwise) of a bit of banter in this thread, you're right in a way. Though I tend to feel that EADD is intimate and close-knit enough for there to be no 'boundaries' as such, even if occasionally it leads to misunderstandings. This thread shouldn't be an exception, otherwise the question of valid exceptions comes up, and where do we go from there?
I'd like someone who genuinely feels that was inappropriate to go back and point out to me what was inappropriate. I agree with what Sam said here and to be honest I've been feeling this way with EADD for a while now. It's acceptable for some people to speak to others in a way they simply can't handle being spoken to themselves.
Sam
Are you sure you can't keep the drinking to a minimum and use that as your one concession to non-sobriety?
Sam
If you feel like you need to make a clean break then do. Only I've found that total sobriety, while good in theory, can often lead toward exacerbating stress and adding to problems that way. Which is not to say you'd do well to take some time away from everything in order to find a better outlet.
kate
Total sobriety straight away is setting yourself up to fail. Baby steps are sometimes needed - like changing your booze from spirits to beers to lower alcohol ones, only keeping a few in the house chilled etc.
Meditation Mugz? Considered it? You should.
Mugz
Seems like people are encouraging me to go and get drunk
Can you explain how you managed to draw this conclusion? The basic message I got from this is people just wanted you to chill out and be ok, I'd hazzard a guess because they care. In between that you were also given a few wise suggestions about exercise and meditation, which can't be a bad thing for anyones health.
ColtDan
2 cans will lead to more, and then lead to getting drugs or whatever.
Totally agree this is the same in my case aswell, and although I don't think it will lead to more in Mugz case tonight because he's already said he's skint, it hasn't really helped in the past. It's going back on what you've already said about no booze & drugs pretty quickly aswell man. Try and find another way to relax in the evening. Relaxing music, cup of tea, phone someone for a chat about your day etc might all be a better move here.
Darksidesam
i actually put drugs and exercise in the same category.
The end result for me is they both make me feel really good (Maybe not the first half of a workout
)
Can see your point but very dependant on what drugs your doing. Both are releasing endorphins and giving you a high but there's more of a feeling of accomplishment and well being from the exercise IMO.
Sam
With all due respect, I've been there too. Quite a few times. You may even have been alive the first time I did.
Listen Gandalf, your not that old.
Sam
I know Kate knows very much what she's talking about too, and this fixation on total sobriety will set you up for a fall.
Think about it - when does it become 'okay' again for Mugz to take anything? Never?
If not, who says it's okay, and when? When he's addressed his problems to a satisfactory level, will his life have improved to the point where he magically attains the willpower and self-control to use only in moderation?
Un-fucking-likely. Self-destructive urges and addictions don't work like that. It'd be good if they did, don't get me wrong.
Learning to integrate drug use and a more productive / less chaoctic life is the road to a more stable and content existence. Kidding yourself isn't.
Total sobriety isn't really something that's ever likely to last forever, but it kind of goes with the teritory of binging. Willpower and self control seem to come naturally to some, others learn them over time and getting their fingers burned. Don't think that you can't improve your self control though, taking a clean step back, sticking to doing healthy things and trying to do other things to keep yourself occupied and not thinking about booze/drugs is absolutely key, especially if your more prone to binging. After a while when your feeling good/refreshed thinking about where you've been with it and how far you've come makes it off putting to repeat the same cycles.
Only one that really bugs me now is booze. Not so much in that I'm always dying to get pissed but when I do, I end up taking things like stims which when I'm sober I wouldn't go near, I know now from getting my fingers burned they mess me up for days.
kate
Pity this threads kinda gone to shit EADD can be reasonably respectful of "serious" threads too, such as in the sabbatical thread.
The most serious threads on here are nearly always the drug threads. Only one that really shocked me was that thread about the rioting in England, although loads of people obviously had differing opinions it did stay fairly serious, it did get a bit political and go way off track at one point but I think with so many people surely that's always likely. EADD is still > the lounge. Just
I thought similar :D
