The EADD I'm Fucked Thread V. Post Lost in the 5th Dimension

[Ophidian]

Went out for clubbing tonight. Had around 700mg MDMA from 18pm until 05am.
No high hopes for it but it turned out to be a good night to remember.
I usually want my Mephedrone for a good night out. But this time the MDMA did fulfill my needs and thats rare these days.

Im trying to let my body rest with a little help from: Pfizer UpJohn90 1mg Xanax, I also have some Ksalol from Galenika stashed away. Top quality stuff from both of the brands will do the trick for sure.!
Just watch out for the dosses and most importantly: Watch out for your selves.

 

[consumer]

For some reason i posted my thoughts on the 1p acid in the tinychat thread. I enjoyed them. Amazing they were legal. I still prefer regular acid but certainly nothing wrong with the 1p gear

 

[Ceres]

glad to hear you enjoyed the 1-P, since I've never tried real acid they are the closest I've got and it's good to know you rate em.

THIS IS BAT COUNTRY

 

[ordinary mind]

For some reason i posted my thoughts on the 1p acid in the tinychat thread. I enjoyed them. Amazing they were legal. I still prefer regular acid but certainly nothing wrong with the 1p gear

Good thing you got back to me on that one, I was about to submit to BigG as being the god molecule after his prediction that you wouldn't report back. Didn't get my oxy or cider either.

I still don't know which I prefer, my instincts say LSD-25, but I think that is largely a set and setting thing (I first took the legendary LSD 25 in my early days of drug use and was blown away with the sheer knowledge that such experience was possible.... 1p-LSD was an RC follow up to the overrated AL-LAD and I think just knowing where it came from sucked a bit of the magic away).

I'd be interested in hearing your thoughts on the best ways of smoking DMT. It is changa I have, but you seem like you might be a person to ask....

1) Should I just buy a fucking cheap bong? (I'll answer that myself actually, yes I should. I don't trust vapes with changa as there isn't enough info and now I think of it I think we might have discussed this before?

2) Changa doobie: is it worth it if I only have a bit over a half gram of 1:1 (i.e. 250mg DMT) left? I'm guessing you don't break through but it sounds fucking cool.

 

[consumer]

Good thing you got back to me on that one, I was about to submit to BigG as being the god molecule after his prediction that you wouldn't report back. Didn't get my oxy or cider either.

I still don't know which I prefer, my instincts say LSD-25, but I think that is largely a set and setting thing (I first took the legendary LSD 25 in my early days of drug use and was blown away with the sheer knowledge that such experience was possible.... 1p-LSD was an RC follow up to the overrated AL-LAD and I think just knowing where it came from sucked a bit of the magic away).

I'd be interested in hearing your thoughts on the best ways of smoking DMT. It is changa I have, but you seem like you might be a person to ask....

1) Should I just buy a fucking cheap bong? (I'll answer that myself actually, yes I should. I don't trust vapes with changa as there isn't enough info and now I think of it I think we might have discussed this before?

2) Changa doobie: is it worth it if I only have a bit over a half gram of 1:1 (i.e. 250mg DMT) left? I'm guessing you don't break through but it sounds fucking cool.

Bongs are probably the go. I just enjoy DMT spliffs. Its a pretty wasteful way to smoke but i have never paid for dmt in my life so its just something i have always done. You definitely break through with spliffs. As long as you keep smoking and holding that smoke in till you punch through the veil it never fails. Just a bit wasteful that is all if you only have small amounts and have to buy it.
For what its worth i prefer a one to one changa mix over straight DMT. It completely changes the experience. Slows it down, makes it more navigable. But my spliff last night was just about 300mg of dmt mixed with weed and tobacco. 3 good hits = breakthrough. I didn't finish it. Still another couple of trips worth left in it.

 

[Ceres]

i have some 5-meo-dmt at the moment, not sure about best roa. tried vape off foil but didnt get much other than a feeling of body euphoria, any tips?

 

[consumer]

i have some 5-meo-dmt at the moment, not sure about best roa. tried vape off foil but didnt get much other than a feeling of body euphoria, any tips?

Bong sandwiched between some herb would be my advice. Dont hit it hard with flame. Break on through..

 

[Ceres]

hmmm good idea, i have a bong and some herb so might give that a go later in the day

 

[consumer]

I have had 5-MEO a handful of times. Its interesting but i much prefer NN- DMT as its way more visual and has a certain warmth to it that i didn't find with 5-MEO. Interested to see what you think. Have you ever had DMT?

 

[Ceres]

yeah ive done mimosa hostilis / syrian rue oral ayahuasca brew twice, + smoked some extracted dmt, i seem to remember snorting some 5-MeO-DMT a few years back but it was a shortlived wierd trip.

 

[ordinary mind]

Bongs are probably the go. I just enjoy DMT spliffs. Its a pretty wasteful way to smoke but i have never paid for dmt in my life so its just something i have always done. You definitely break through with spliffs. As long as you keep smoking and holding that smoke in till you punch through the veil it never fails. Just a bit wasteful that is all if you only have small amounts and have to buy it.
For what its worth i prefer a one to one changa mix over straight DMT. It completely changes the experience. Slows it down, makes it more navigable. But my spliff last night was just about 300mg of dmt mixed with weed and tobacco. 3 good hits = breakthrough. I didn't finish it. Still another couple of trips worth left in it.

That sounds like a great idea for a sunny day out in my garden. I actually had about closer to 800mg changa but rather boldly threw 300mg in the vape last night knowing it would be inefficient. This morning I had a fiddle and tried to clean my vape up/cut up the hash/changa mix that was in the bowl bit so it wasn't clogging up. I then had a pretty weird and introspective session taking small hits (with a bit of ket [now all gone ] lingering in the background) in the bathroom staring at myself in the mirror (for what its worth, I did briefy muse on the idea and decided that H2O is the god molecule.... can't really be arsed to go into my reasoning for it so lets keep in mind I was in a bathroom).

So I have left whatever is remaining in my vape and the other unopened half gram packet. I really liked the doobie idea but I'm also determined to get at least one proper breakthrough experience out of this whole gram of changa as it will likely be a while before I get more. But to be honest I don't really want a bong for anything other than changa, so if the doobie is as effective as you suggest I thing I might give that a bash. Cheers for the info

 

[ordinary mind]

Also on the subject of 5-meo-DMT, I've only tried it once (several sub breakthroughs then the real deal) recently. I enjoyed it as much if not more than my DMT experiences, but I think the fact I had been smoking a lot of heroin that morning, then plugged/ate (but mostly plugged) somewhere around 180mg MDMA. Small hit of hash, meditated in the sun in the garden in a state of sublime bliss from the combo. Then I played with the 5-meo-DMT and it was astounding tbh. I expect if I tried it again on its own, I'd probably agree with you on DMT>5-meo-DMT.

Also also, ceres I'm quite surprised you've never had LSD..... don't know why, you just give off a bit of an LSD vibe imo ha

ALSO: in the name of harm reduction I'm not endorsing or suggesting it to be a good idea by any means, but I'm currently at 36 hours into what should have been a very rough opiate withdrawal based on my usage and close proximity to my last severe cold turkey. I might find now that I am entirely out of comfort meds I find myself feeling like shit later today or tomorrow (well I still have hash and tryptamines, but I suppose they wouldn't meet the general consensus of the definition of "comfort meds" during opioid w/d), but while the afterglow of ketamine is probably helping, I think the mindset that my tryptamine induced experience induced has helped even more [as BigG and many others wisely told me, it is very much a case of "mind over matter"].

I haven't been getting through much work the last 2 days, but in the long run it isn't something to worry about, I will have plenty of time to catch up. Right now I'm in a very meditative state, and have been dipping in and out of passages of Dwight Goddard's A Buddhist Bible and Jack Kerouac's Wake Up.

Thepond in the garden also looks curiously clearer than I've ever seen it and it was cool watching my goldfish swimming around... it was fascinating just watching on them, vaguely contemplating what was going on in their minds - why do they swim in the directions they do, occasionally swimming into each other - but mostly I just enjoyed watching them without much thought. Simple pleasures etc.

Also, I know I have a poncy name like ordinary mind with a buddhisty looking pic and have mentioned meditation in my last two posts, but this is actually not ordinary behavior for me to be so introspective and, for lack of a better word, meditative.

Will have to wait and see how this plays out, but it seemed to be a very healing experience.

 

[Tinker55]

If it matters at all, there's lots of "not necessarily" in W/Ds. It is mind over matter. And I'm one example of someone who does not get progressively worse withdrawal. Not that they're any fun, but they actually seem milder each time, possibly because I know they are manageable.

 

[ordinary mind]

Fair enough, I had just set myself up for something much worse I guess. Still, its strange I don't feel any withdrawal symptoms at all basically around what should be the peak right now I think. If I somehow woke up this morning having forgotten that I'd been binging on opiates most of 2016 (I actually picked up 4gs heroin on New Years Eve funnily enough... had another bit of h at the end of Jan/start of Feb and then started kratom shortly after that prior to b_f and you probably know the rest from there...) I don't think I would even realise I'm "ill" or anything.... got a bit tired in the middle of the day but, not such a surprise since I was flying high last night and dind't get much sleep. I hope I'll sleep tonight, this will be the first night without any diazepam in a while. [On that note I'm pretty disappointed in myself for taking diaz most days these last few weeks after just completing a full year benzo free. Hope I don't get much rebound from that]

I do admit now that the ket has gone and its been a while since my trips last night and this morning, reality is setting in a bit again. Apart from psychedelics, the only thing I have left in my stash is a bit of hash and no money to buy anything else. While I do admit this is probably a saving grace for me, it still feels strange as basically all of 2016 I have used multiple substances every day (obviously not always in high doses, or crazy combos like I've posted here on occasion, but still). On one hand I have an exciting opportunity in front of me with this course, but I dont know if i'll actually enjoy it or sucumb to boredom or get dragged back into social anxiety.

Still though, the fact I've been spared severe spectrum withdrawals this time is great - I don't know how I've managed that but I can't complain.

 

[Tinker55]

I hope that you don't get any rebound issues. Seriously, if you've been stoned out of your mind for 6 months, you've lost 6 months. Boredom happens to everybody and social anxiety is not rare. I'm not trying to be a jerk, but at 23, you might be seriously screwing up some of your future. Yeah, I know you've heard all this crap before.

 

[ordinary mind]

I hope that you don't get any rebound issues. Seriously, if you've been stoned out of your mind for 6 months, you've lost 6 months. Boredom happens to everybody and social anxiety is not rare. I'm not trying to be a jerk, but at 23, you might be seriously screwing up some of your future. Yeah, I know you've heard all this crap before.

Yep, I know you've heard this before, but I am hopeful of making a serious change at the moment. It can be pretty sad hearing about people from my past going on and traveling and doing interesting things. I had the privilage of going on tonnes of interesting family holidays all over the world when I was young, I've only left the mainland once in the last 6 years. Especially the last year has been banal, that is why I put off withdrawal for a couple of weeks while trying to set myself up for a change in my life. I know that was probably frustrating for some people to read, but there's no point lying about your drug use on a drug forum....

 

[steewith2ees]

Really pleased that you enjoyed the 1P's Consumer - you impression was exactly what I'd expected to hear as in 'very impressive if not quite the real deal'. Your comment in the TC thread about the equivalent dose of the 'swiss' acid makes sense as well - you need to remember that it's not as equipotent by weight as LSD-25 is so you will need larger doses of 1P than standard acid for what one would consider an equivalent level of intensity. Its great that we were able to buy those yokes without fear or hassle of prosecution though wasn't it - it was really this, ALD-52 and the the other lysergamides that really broke the camels back when it came to the government looking stupid - here were multiple versions of one of the most 'notorious' class A drugs of abuse freely available for sale - I mean - they let all those benzos get sold for so long causing all sorts of overuse and dependency issues but whenever an LSD homologue was released they jumped on all of them within months -the only reason 1P was allowed to slide for so long was because despite banning all the other designer lygmds. they were now faced with the closest version to the originally banned drug yet (although perhaps not the best - I'm now interested in the ALD-52 as a lot of folk seem to cite it as the best designer lygmd. to appear over that period) and the PSA was by that point well on the cards.

You just need to take more that you would standard acid for the same level of trip - I can't remember the actual equipotencies off hand but they are widely cited around the net and are not hard to find.

pinkpapaver hasn't posted in ages I hope she's ok. Her posts when 1P-LSD came out were hilarious, and sort of went along the lines of

'I've finally found a RC that's quite good - you need to take 5 or 6 to feel really nice but once you do stick something good on like the Beatles and its makes things like the housework a lot less boring'

???!!!!!!

 

[consumer]

Really pleased that you enjoyed the 1P's Consumer - you impression was exactly what I'd expected to hear as in 'very impressive if not quite the real deal'. Your comment in the TC thread about the equivalent dose of the 'swiss' acid makes sense as well - you need to remember that it's not as equipotent by weight as LSD-25 is so you will need larger doses of 1P than standard acid for what one would consider an equivalent level of intensity. Its great that we were able to buy those yokes without fear or hassle of prosecution though wasn't it - it was really this, ALD-52 and the the other lysergamides that really broke the camels back when it came to the government looking stupid - here were multiple versions of one of the most 'notorious' class A drugs of abuse freely available for sale - I mean - they let all those benzos get sold for so long causing all sorts of overuse and dependency issues but whenever an LSD homologue was released they jumped on all of them within months -the only reason 1P was allowed to slide for so long was because despite banning all the other designer lygmds. they were now faced with the closest version to the originally banned drug yet (although perhaps not the best - I'm now interested in the ALD-52 as a lot of folk seem to cite it as the best designer lygmd. to appear over that period) and the PSA was by that point well on the cards.

You just need to take more that you would standard acid for the same level of trip - I can't remember the actual equipotencies off hand but they are widely cited around the net and are not hard to find.

pinkpapaver hasn't posted in ages I hope she's ok. Her posts when 1P-LSD came out were hilarious, and sort of went along the lines of

'I've finally found a RC that's quite good - you need to take 5 or 6 to feel really nice but once you do stick something good on like the Beatles and its makes things like the housework a lot less boring'

???!!!!!!

They were pretty damn impressive. I cant believe they were legal. Good times for England indeed. I agree ALD-52 sounds like the best of the lysergic rc's . It may even be better than LSD-25. I wont say 1p is but i will say its pretty bloody impressive and very enjoyable. My only issue was the bodyload on the come up which did eventually dissapear and the lack of headfuckery but some people would prefer that. Either way impressive compound.

 

[ordinary mind]

Was ALD-52 ever available legally in the UK? A quick look at wikipedia says it was made class A in 2015 despite it never having been identified as being sold. I guess the government preempted that it would be on release soon around the time they banned AL-LAD and LSZ, but I've seen some posts on blue light of people claiming to have them in their stashes so I'm confused. Are people importing them from EU vendors?

Also, as satisfying as it was to stick 2 fingers up to drug policy with legal lysergimides, I don't think they were what broke the camels back. Based on recent media surrounding poor prison conditions, it actually sounds like synthetic cannabinoid blends were rubbing the government the wrong way most of all. This might sound strange as they are universally unpopular on here, but it seems blends were getting smuggled into prisons en mass, not to mention reports of them being sold to underagers on the highstreet. All in all, the ban was a long time coming, and while I don't agree with the decision to ban psychoactivity in itself... tbh I can understand the general demand to reduce access to these substances and it probably wasn't such a bad thing as most people on here think imo.

Easy for me to say though.... If they found a way of blocking access to DNMs then I'd really be up in arms.

 

[BigG]

Was ALD-52 ever available legally in the UK? A quick look at wikipedia says it was made class A in 2015 despite it never having been identified as being sold. I guess the government preempted that it would be on release soon around the time they banned AL-LAD and LSD, but I've seen some posts on blue light of people claiming to have them in their stashes so I'm confused. Are people importing them from EU vendors?

Also, as satisfying as it was to stick 2 fingers up to drug policy with legal lysergimides, I don't think they were what broke the camels back. Based on recent media surrounding poor prison conditions, it actually sounds like synthetic cannabinoid blends were rubbing the government the wrong way most of all. This might sound strange as they are universally unpopular on here, but it seems blends were getting smuggled into prisons en mass, not to mention reports of them being sold to underagers on the highstreet. All in all, the ban was a long time coming, and while I don't agree with the decision to ban psychoactivity in itself... tbh I can understand the general demand to reduce access to these substances and it probably wasn't such a bad thing as most people on here think imo.

Easy for me to say though.... If they found a way of blocking access to DNMs then I'd really be up in arms.

I agree it seemed to be the synthetic noids that really got up the governments nose. As an ambulance service most of the legal high call outs we received were related to noids. Have you watched that documentary on iPlayer about synth noid abuse in Wolverhampton? I've never seen the attraction in them to be honest as everyone I've ever seen who has used them just turns into an embarasing dribbling mess. Horrible shit.....

I wonder when the bulk of the fallout from the cessation of RC benzo availability will start to really hit the NHS (it's just starting now as many people will have had enough to last a month or two after the ban). It may not be as bad as predicted but all depends on how amenable GPs are to getting people on diazepam tapers. I've heard mixed stories about GPs attitude with some being great and understanding and some just not wanting to know at all.....