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The EADD I'm Fucked Megathread - We Don't Even Know What Day it is

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Oh I've not had sugar in coffee/tea since 2004. Pisses people off. I used to be obese, lost under 5 stone n turned my life around. Was doing a masters in weight management but failed n ended up with a post graduate certificate in WM instead. Oh well.

Good on you, Allien. I could not sit there n watch a loved one having my old DOC. I'd go mental. That's admirable. Fair play to you.

Evey
 
Don't big me up to much, I've been snorting meth all evening :D

Respect to Shambles for the multi quote action.
 
Sorry raas n shambles - I can't read all that. My eyes hurt. Raas you are abstinent right? You are exercising, right? Good. Keep at it. I look at you n it kind of motivates me at times.

Wait until you start feeling those endorphins, if you have not already, wow - that's like something different entirely. You, taking photos of the countryside - running. Good on you. You're inspiring people. I admire and am envious of you....

Evey
 
Back at my parents house and things couldn't be shitter :(
Fuck this I'm off for a skate on my own with 5 valium pills a shit load of weed to vape and beer, because why the fuck not :/
 
Raas said:
You can kill yourself off caffeine if you abuse it enough. Doesn't make it comparable as a substance to class A's.

More drivel. You can be prescribed Class As by a doctor and use them perfectly legitimately for any number of issues. You can also use them responsibly and avoid the problems associated with habitual and/or heavy use. Also, the drug classification system is utterly meaningless and no reputable doctor in the land agrees with it completely. They are arbitrary distinctions brought about for societal reasons not medical or scientific reasons in virtually all cases.

You're missing my point and meandering off with talk irrelevant to it.

I'm saying that just because someone can potentially abuse a substance to the point of mental problems/death... doesn't necessitate that the substance is harmful if used sensibly. This does not apply to many illicit drugs, where moderate use can cause considerable/severe mental or physical problems.

Shambles said:
I can only presume ignorance or stupidity. Or maliciousness but I doubt that cos I know you're not actually malicious no matter how much it may appear to be the case at times. You've heard of the horror stories of people left paralysed in agony for up to half an hour or more whilst some inept technician (doctors are not allowed to perform lethal injections as it breaks the Hippocratic Oath) stabs at them over and over again with a frikkin massive needle, yes? You know the actual way you die from lethal injection, yes? You know it's one of the most painful experiences possible, yes? It may look peaceful to the poor witnesses who have to sit and watch a person be murdered but that's only because the victim is paralysed. What happens next is utterly barbaric. The chemical used is highly caustic and causes severe burns. It does not kill instantly by any means. It can take a very long time indeed. Think nearer an hour in extreme cases than a quick poke and off to sleep. Lethal injection is torture not just execution. The electric chair is probably more humane and that's saying something 8(

As a minor aside, if the death penalty must be used then why not use fentanyl or similar strong opioid? Because it's seen as a soft option because there is no pain involved that's why. The chemicals used for lethal injection currently are hideous and barbaric. You have no idea what you're talking about.

In the survey of capital punishment, lethal injection was only voted because participants believed it to be a humane method of killing

"When asked which method they preferred – regardless of their views on the ethics of the issue – an overwhelming 66 per cent opted for lethal injection, which is widely assumed to be the most humane technique."


As far as I'm aware, standard lethal injection practiced today (and the type that those voting in the survey had in mind) is painless and humane. Wiki appears to agree with this:


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lethal_injection
Lethal injection is the practice of injecting a person with a fatal dose of drugs (typically a barbiturate, paralytic, and potassium solution) for the express purpose of causing immediate death. The main application for this procedure is capital punishment, but the term may also be applied in a broad sense to euthanasia and suicide. It kills the person by first putting the person to sleep, and then stopping the breathing and heart, in that order

While there may have been a few cases in the world where it has been carried out improperly, this is not what the public is referring too when they vote for capital punishment. They are voting for the standard, painless procedure. (If that doesn't exist, you'll have to source me up)



Shambles said:
This is such a pisspoor attempt at justification I really have nothing to say to it. You made yourself look stupid enough as it is. Again, you have no idea what you're talking about.

I don't see what's so stupid by suggesting alcohol isn't as hard on the brain as most illicit drugs. The amount of mental health problems we've seen on this board alone from drugs such as MDxx, amphet's, meph, acid, shrooms etc

You compare them by looking to deliberate abusers of alcohol (severe alcoholics). Which is an unfair comparison. While I accept that alcohol still does a good job of destroying brain cells, it's hardly comparable in terms of severity to the aforementioned substances.

Shambles said:
No they didn't. It was in place for years after the mix-up was discovered and is still quoted to this day. MDMA was not a new drug on the scene back then - it had been legal and used (sold over the counter at bars no less) in America for well over a decade when that report was made. It had been legal and in use since the mid-60s. It became far more widespread in the 90s, yes. But that is in no way justification for rushing through what was already known to be false evidence to scaremonger the public.

No-one quotes the ricaurte study any more (professionally, at least) and it has no bearing whatsoever on the legitimacy of ecstasy.

It appears the published study was retracted when the meth mix-up was discovered. I assume it would have been retracted quite promptly. Obviously biased Ecstasy opponents still quoted from it years after, but the study was deemed unofficial after that had emerged:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_A._Ricaurte
"Ricaurte's retracted article on the neurotoxicity of ecstasy, originally published in Science, has received a great deal of attention. This article was retracted after it was found that the testing materials were switched from MDMA to methamphetamine."
 
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Can't be doing with tea really, I like coffee strong and black ( twin peaks style ) so it has to be decent quality, cheap instant tastes fekin awful.

I gave it up on the advice of some quack doctor years ago, didnt help with the aliment but it seemed worth it to avoid all that extra sugar.

I seem impervious to caffeine these days but still enjoy a good coffee of a morning
 
Genuinely can't be arsed to deal with the level of ignorance and/or stupidity, Raas. Feel free to count it as a "win" for yourself.

There's no winning, Shambles. You took issue with my thoughts and I responded.

For the sake of determining the truth, i'd rather you show me where im wrong, maybe dig out a source or 2... Rather than decide its too stupid to bother with.
 
Evey take down that mobile number, the whole world can see it.

I'm not aware you've doen anything wrong, your fine and dandy as always:)
 
Number edited out. Please bear in mind anybody with access to a computer and the internet can see anything you post here, Evey. You really don't want your mobile number made public like that. If you think you've had problems with trolls so far... it doesn't bear thinking about.

And as Al says, you've done nothing wrong at all. Stop stressing - you're dandy here :)<3
 
I'm fine with people having my mobile number it's kewl, seriously. I have E-mailed SHM with it.

If someone phones n I don't wish to speak with him I'll simply not answer. The beauty of having a mobile phone :)

Evey xxxx

PS Just seen you snipped my number off, that gave me a chuckle.
Seriously though, thanks for thinking of me

Evey xxxx
 
^ I'm fine with people having my number too, but I only give it out in PM not in public. There is good reason for this. I suspect you will agree when sober tomorrow ;)<3

Bear in mind it's not just a case of hanging up or not answering. That's personal information which can be used for any number of unsavoury purposes. Not all of them would even involve you directly so you wouldn't even get the chance to hang up or ignore. No phone numbers in threads. It will be edited out any time you post it so keep it to PM please :)

There's no winning, Shambles. You took issue with my thoughts and I responded.

For the sake of determining the truth, i'd rather you show me where im wrong, maybe dig out a source or 2... Rather than decide its too stupid to bother with.

Part of the reason I didn't want to reply to that mess of a post you last made was that it is a mess of a post not worthy of a reply. Another part of the reason is that I'm drunk and can't be arsed getting into arguments - or even overly bothersome debates - where I know the other person has no hope of doing anything but dig their hole deeper. You are wrong. I could expand, I have expanded, you failed to respond in a manner worthy of further response. I don't know what else to say really. Give me an actual argument and I'll respond. As it is there's really nothing to respond to.
 
I don't understand????
No one can get info on me from a mobile number - and no one would, I'm boring lol.
But Thanks anyway.

Right - I'm off to check if there's any new members - and to try and welcome them to the site.
'tis important.

brb.

Evey xxxx
 
Just looking out for you Evey, you donlt want all and sundry texting and calling you, there are some 'orrible folks out there.

Hmmm best have a bit of a top up
 
Part of the reason I didn't want to reply to that mess of a post you last made was that it is a mess of a post not worthy of a reply. Another part of the reason is that I'm drunk and can't be arsed getting into arguments - or even overly bothersome debates - where I know the other person has no hope of doing anything but dig their hole deeper. You are wrong. I could expand, I have expanded, you failed to respond in a manner worthy of further response. I don't know what else to say really. Give me an actual argument and I'll respond. As it is there's really nothing to respond to.

Lol. The whole irony is that while you continue to oppose alcohol in theory, you are in fact drunk yourself.

Mabes I'll clear up some misunderstandings t'marra.

Some good has come from this debate anyway: - I've managed to check up on the thread frequently enough to catch eveys mobile number before u snipped it out! Mwuahahahah
 
I'm not opposing alcohol at all. Did you miss the part where I mentioned being drunk? Apparently you didn't. That was not my point at all. What I was objecting to was the glorification of alcohol as being somehow different, separate and above other drugs. It is, as Swarm explained in considerably more detail than I ever could, a messy, dirty solvent. Dirty in the neurotransmitter sense of slopping itself about all over the shop. It's the same reason tramadol is called a dirty drug. It may be chemically pure but it is neurologically a dutty slut of a chem. Like ethanol. Would you glorify glue or butane or GBL in the same way? Why not? They are broadly similar in many ways. Some of those are equally as legal too. Are they superior to "Class A" drugs too? Why are your arguments so poor? Would you like me to continue? You would I know but I wouldn't. Fish in barrels need a break sometimes.
 
Just looking out for you Evey, you donlt want all and sundry texting and calling you, there are some 'orrible folks out there.

Hmmm best have a bit of a top up

I understand, Allein, 'tis ok. I respect Shambles. I learnt the hard way about the net but I'd not that drunk I'd mention it all here so please don't worry 'tis ok.

Like I've said already, though I've rowed with both you n Shamby in the past, you both PMd me n introduced me to EADD.... and that means a lot, so all's good - and I understand completely. 'tis good that people actually look out for me on forums haha.

Evey :D xxxx

Evey xxxx
 
Tinternet squables don't mean much and you are far from a trouble maker, it's been great to see you find a place here, twas a bumpy start but we don't hold grudges here, at least I don't and Mr Shambles is the least grudgy person I've known.

Privacy is something you should consider, I'm not one for absessing about such things but I do avoid making it too easy to identify me from my online activity:sus:
 
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