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The EADD Health, Sickness and Pain Thread - share what ails you here.

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^ Bonus =D

And yes, I did hear summat about ibuprofen (NSAIDs in general I think but not positive) being suspected of causing heart problems. I'm very glad to be on bupe now cos I've drastically cut my OTC painkiller intake.

can you do CWEs 2 or 3 times, would that get rid off all the paracetomol and keep most of the codeine ? Ive only tried to do it once, the water came through cloudy. I didnt think of doing a 2nd filtration on it and just ditched it.

You can CWE as often as you like but you shouldn't need to - once is plenty if your technique is right. Some OTC pills always leave a cloudy solution due to the particular fillers/binders used - can't recall the names but the expensive brand name ones usually, generics are much cheaper and produce better results generally.

From memory (double check to be sure) you will always have approximately 1g of paracetamol per 100ml of water used no matter how well you filter. At least I recall Effie saying as much and she generally knows a thing or two about such things - still worth double checking though cos memory 8)

You will lose some of the Goodies when you CWE no matter how careful you are but it's always gonna be safer than not using a CWE at all. As long as your technique is good (Monsta's recipe is as good as any I've seen - may have to search for it but was the first post in the codeine thread from memory) you should have no problem. Paracetamol won't readily dissolve in water below 4C (again from memory so double check if you want to be sure) so there should be no way to mess up a CWE if the water is ice cold and you don't mash up the gunk trying to force more through the filter or anything silly like that.

But if in doubt, just chuck it cos it's not worth the risk for the sake of a coupla quid's worth of codeine.
 
cheers S. The CWE is something im not very confident or sure about as to whether my technique is good or bad, and as i only have 1 kidney i dont really want to fuck it up. Also as i have recently discovered the joys of kratom i think i'll be sticking to that for the occasional dabble in the forseeable future.
 
I wouldn't bother with CWE stuff if I only had one kidney, frankly. It's only codeine/DHC - not worth the risk however small for the sake of such a relatively crappy buzz (by opiate standards).

I've only used kratom a handful of times but I did like it. Very upbeat and perky stuff. Kinda subtle at the doses I had (or could well have been tolerance issues too) but certainly very pleasant. And very pricey :!
 
A quick google search quotes the solubility of paracetamol in water at 20 degrees C as 12.78mg/ml, which extrapolates to 1278mg/100ml - but the solubility drops rapidly at lower temps which is why you need to use as little water as possible and as cold as possible for a CWE. Follow these simple rules and you should be okay.

Edit: as a comparison, the solubility of codeine phosphate at 20 degrees is around 1000mg/0.7ml - a huge difference when compared to paracetamol. Therefore, even if using very small quantities of water, the codeine loss in a CWE should be minimal
 
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yeah, but cheap compared to silk road Bupe !! ;)
i paid £5 for 24mg 1 time n
50p for a 4mg

st it is £1 a mg here
how much on rd
i saw fent patches that i was kindly given 5 of going at >£100wank for pharms that site

THe H uk 2 uk is not amazing n i know cornish n a few other folk got done by that Frank matthews ? He was Shipping V good stuff from Damn but soon fukin started selective skankin he had best feed back |LOL!
it same on st though unless u have a magic no.
 
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I attempted to go painkiller free today but after screaming and crying in agony for last 2 hours 150mg Tramadol and 1mg etz and now as long as I physically don't move anything below belly button I can just about cope.

More Etz and Emmerdale-what has my life become :(

Oh fuck it may crawl down the stairs slowly and have a gin for breakfast. Catheter removal Tuesday and hopefully another 3 weeks I am like new again..who am I kidding. Seem to have a little Tramadol affection on top of everything else. Bugger.
 
Fucking neck pain/shoulder pain too hell! Playing poker 12 hours plus aa day doesnt help, any tips? Massage? Meds, im taking 5mg etiz and 1mg of clonaz cnt sleep grrr thats mental pain i suppose, gotta draw 500 out the bank to give my "rich mate" watch liverpool at 12:45 ! Wat can i do i have smoked 14 grams of sage and sour in days gotta get on the work again tonight, any reccomends ? All i got is amt, more etiz, 2 gram of weed :-( oh and 300mg of al lad ! Help me get through this day!!!!
 
Decided to just have a small snifter of brandy to try and get me to sleep.
I am shattered beyond belief but pain too bad intermittently to sleep. They gave me about 6 boxes of Tramadol and never had it before.

I seem to understand that it should be a more effective painkiller but co=codamol works for me better as it makes me sleepy..but as I have this god damn catheter I can't risk the pressure of potential constipation that comes with co-codamol and seemingly not with the Tramadol for me..why is that? (sorry about bowel movement discussion but y'know all relevant).

ahh fuck it should pass out soon..please...:|
 
^ Codeine/DHC are especially... binding in the guttiwut department. Tramadol far less so. As you've noticed, the former are sedating opies whilst the latter is actually pretty damn speedy. I used to love a coupla trams wiv me coffee of a morn - puts a real spring in yer step for the day. At first anyway. One of the nastiest w/d's I've ever endured (twice over cos I'm clever like that 8)) but for short-medium term pain relief it's not bad at all and the antidepressant/SNRI action does help with mood which can be a real bonus when in pain and/or incapacitated for a while.

Hope you find some relief soon - nothing worse than being in pain and not even able to sleep to get away from it for a while :\

In personal pain news, parboiled index finger has no blister today and isn't sore anymore which is quite pleasing :)
 
Good news with the finger Shambles. Pain is pain! :(. Did the daftest thing a few weeks ago-filled my zippo lighter up and shoved it down my bra..yep knows sounds a bit odd..but handy on a night out..started burning about an hour later and managed to get a zippo shaped chemical burn. THERE!

Another good reason to stick with my e-cig.

I find the l-methionine I have been taking for some months does wonders for the mental health. Trying to ditch the Tramadol and codeine now. Sticking with good old nurofen for a while..although I have to Omeprazole first else I get shocking stomach pain..gotta be a better solution for now.
 
Fucking neck pain/shoulder pain too hell! Playing poker 12 hours plus aa day doesnt help, any tips? Massage? Meds, im taking 5mg etiz and 1mg of clonaz cnt sleep grrr thats mental pain i suppose, gotta draw 500 out the bank to give my "rich mate" watch liverpool at 12:45 ! Wat can i do i have smoked 14 grams of sage and sour in days gotta get on the work again tonight, any reccomends ? All i got is amt, more etiz, 2 gram of weed :-( oh and 300mg of al lad ! Help me get through this day!!!!

Hot water bottle, nurofen, hot shower or try massage...Personally on minor neck/back ache I use vicks vapor rub weirdly works a treat and I love the smell of eucalyptus..suppose tiger balm too =D
 
Hot water bottle, nurofen, hot shower or try massage...Personally on minor neck/back ache I use vicks vapor rub weirdly works a treat and I love the smell of eucalyptus..suppose tiger balm too =D

This

And same here, smells so nice
 
Yep still me-still in fucking agony and whinging/crying/screaming.

However I take it all back I have reached into the depths of the pharmacopeia drawer and found 7 CO-proxamal (their life alleged ended 2002 but fuck it wil try anything now and some co-drydamol...gonna have to watch it as am so desperate just to sleep. 5mg etz managed 5 hours before waking screaming in pain...also have someone old script of pregabalin lyrica..but I don'really understand if that would help..confused by wiki explanation...I collect meds like other collect well collectables.

Think I watched Drugstore cowboy too many times as a kid...any advice..banged 2 co-proxamol 5 mins ago. I would rather risk a stroke than deal with this level of intense pain. Although I hasten to add I don't smash and grabs at chemists...
 
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