The EADD aMT Thread

[The RZA]

I would tend to agree with this based on my one experience. I had eaten beforehand (about three or four hours beforehand) and the first dose of 35mg didn't feel like it broke through as much I was expecting based on what people were saying. The second dose of 15mg really put it over the edge euphoria wise (in a FANTASTIC way!), but not visually speaking.

I also think the bloating I got was caused by the food, coupled with the beer. Makes sense really.

Next time, I'm going to try an initial 40mg dose on a completely empty stomach and see how that goes. I really want to breakthrough with this stuff (although I do think I kind of did already), because what I saw really was just incredible! Just not as intense as some people make it out to be.

One thing I would say, don't fear aMT. It's a beautiful, soft-natured experience in many ways and the anti-depressant tone means you are just in the perfect mood to push the boundaries unlike anything else I've ever had. Honestly, my new favourite

Glad someone's picked up on that as there's a bit of apprehension for me about it consuming this. Not sure why but I've an iffy feeling it's going to serve my arse to me on a plate.

Would you say it's gentle enough that to have a hard time mentally on it feels out of the question Muse?

 

[FJ1]

So.. I'm going to try AMT for the first time this weekend hopefully..

I have the choice of taking the HCL (orally or plugging), or smoking the freebase.

[weirdly enough, after trying to source this stuff for months two vendors on different continents came through for me within a day of each other :D]

From what I've heard the smoking sounds more attractive as it avoids a lot of the side effects + less anxious waiting about, but on the other hand I've heard that it's not a *full* AMT experience. I'll be trying both eventually, which would you reccomemend as an intro? I may also have some friends trying it with me in case plugging won't be an option.

I'm thinking 25mg if oral, 20mg if smoked. [there'll be none of this bumping/snorting lark for me, if it's not enough I'll wait until next weekend and up the dose].

I have v little psyche experience.



[btw can anyone point me to a good primer on chasing? I know in theory its a no brainer, but I haven't done it before, don't want to screw it up by burning it instead of vaping ]

 

[Evad]

I never felt it had the potential to go bad/dark to the degree of say acid or mushrooms. although definitely a psychedelic I found the headspace always quite positive and never too difficult or introspective.

The come up for smoking is still an hour plus, I'd say for first time anal/oral is the way to go for sure. Chasing has a definite knack to it and there's no way you'd get the full 20mg from the foil to your lungs on your first time.

 

[The RZA]

So.. I'm going to try AMT for the first time this weekend hopefully..

I have the choice of taking the HCL (orally or plugging), or smoking the freebase.

[weirdly enough, after trying to source this stuff for months two vendors on different continents came through for me within a day of each other :D]

From what I've heard the smoking sounds more attractive as it avoids a lot of the side effects + less anxious waiting about, but on the other hand I've heard that it's not a *full* AMT experience. I'll be trying both eventually, which would you reccomemend as an intro? I may also have some friends trying it with me in case plugging won't be an option.

I'm thinking 25mg if oral, 20mg if smoked. [there'll be none of this bumping/snorting lark for me, if it's not enough I'll wait until next weekend and up the dose].

I have v little psyche experience.



[btw can anyone point me to a good primer on chasing? I know in theory its a no brainer, but I haven't done it before, don't want to screw it up by burning it instead of vaping ]

I'd say 25mg seems to be fairly sensible first oral dose going off what I've read so far, yea. I think when I get round to trying this out that's what I'll go for.

I think the higher doses of of 35/40+, whilst fine for the more experienced users on this thread, would be a little overwhelming for me.

Then again, I haven't dipped my toe into pysches for 18 years so that's where this apprehension is coming from I think.

 

[tranceaddict84]

I just nommed 35mg about half an hour ago so will see what I see. I did, however, give a sample or two out to a coupla people and was interesting how different their experience was on the same dose (35mg). One of them was completely off his box, deep in conversation with his dog at one point, and generally loving it for a loooooong time. The other had nausea and the shits for the first 3-4 hours but felt mostly sedated until the 8 hour mark when he noticed a bit of trippiness developing but said it was pretty mild and didn't last long other than the gutache which lasted throughout for him.

Reckon you can make any relationship between how aMT affected these people and how they are generally affected by other drugs? The good end of the aMT scale sounds brilliant, but I'm not the kind who gets that far off my chops very easily -- I never really trip on pills, coke does very little for me, 2CB did fuck all when I tried it, even ket although it gets me fucked it's never massively visual compared to what most other people experience. I'd really like to give aMT a blast, but I'm wondering if I'm likely not to get much from it.

 

[Vurtual]

Would you say it's gentle enough that to have a hard time mentally on it feels out of the question Muse?

Sorry to butt in too... As psychedelics go, it is gentle, and at 20mg gave me only postive thoughts and feelings (all the released serotonin maybe?) - i'd say a lower starting dose is unlikely to give problems (20mg or less if nervous) - however, be cautious - YMMV. Taking care of set and setting is the best way to avoid bad trips

If you've not done psychs before and you're apprehensive, starting with an anti-depressant dose (~5-15mg) may give you're body a chance to get used to the idea of a tryptamine first

 

[FJ1]

Thanks for the advice. Will take the HcL then (with some anti-nasuea pills )

Have already tried a 6mg sample today as an allergy test, no noticeable effects.

btw, how do you think this would be for storing the freebase when I finally take it out of its smell proof bag?
http://tightvac.com/cart.php?category=Minivac Series - .12 Liter



[ooh, yay, Bluelighter]

 

[The RZA]

Sorry to butt in too... As psychedelics go, it is gentle, and at 20mg gave me only postive thoughts and feelings (all the released serotonin maybe?) - i'd say a lower starting dose is unlikely to give problems (20mg or less if nervous) - however, be cautious - YMMV. Taking care of set and setting is the best way to avoid bad trips

If you've not done psychs before and you're apprehensive, starting with an anti-depressant dose (~5-15mg) may give you're body a chance to get used to the idea of a tryptamine first

No, I've done plenty of psychs before Vurtual - 30+ LSD trips and 10 + mushroom trips, so I'm more than familiar with that situation and the importance of set and setting etc, it's just the length if time since I did all that tripping.

As as I said in above post, it's around 18 years since I've been there so that's the only reason I'm a bit wary.

 

[jblz]

This chem seems pretty damn interesting...

I've found one place selling this shit, I know the rules about price discussion so maybe I can be like an RC and loophole. Are you guys paying the same for a G as you would for just under 2gs of MD?

 

[Shambles]

Back again with added sparkles and stuff

As often happens with me on an aMT comeup I dozed off for a while, woke up with a bit of gutache, dealt with that and all of a sudden it kicked in. Forgot just how long it can take orally - was around four hours on an empty stomach. Far less GI problems than I was expecting - no bloating or nausea and only one toilet dash required which is amazing for me with aMT - usually much worse.

Feeling pretty damn fine now but towards the relaxed end of the spectrum. Not sedated as some have reported but more just kinda laid back and lazy with the occasional wave of stimulation. Getting some very gentle visuals too - just a bit of colour brightening and a general hazy waviness - a lot like 6-APB visuals actually.

So far so good. Not got quite the kick of the freebase I had before but also seems to be a bit less rough around the edges with the physical stuff. Which means upping the dose a tad to get you where you want to go shouldn't come at too high a price.

Reckon you can make any relationship between how aMT affected these people and how they are generally affected by other drugs?

I don't really know them all that well to say. One is nearer my age and has some taste in drugs compared to the other pipz-munching monkey who was just there at the time and I couldn't really say no. They have both had various psyches and a few RCs like the 2Cs including recently 2C-E and both loved it - especially the older fella. Was also the older fella who wasn't impressed with the aMT which kinda surprised me. No obvious pointers as to which way you'd go on it that I can think of.

 

[Vurtual]

As as I said in above post, it's around 18 years since I've been there so that's the only reason I'm a bit wary.

You'll be absolutely fine then. I'm just hesitant to recommend this as a gentle psych in general as everyone reacts differently (i read your other posts saying you'd had experience after i posted the other one - sorry to patronise).

To me AMT is a friendly substance giving you a nice mental trip, without the heavy introspection of its 'D' brother or mushrooms (I found it similar to low dose san pedro). Also, there seems to be a nice mood lift that stays for a few days afterwards (i'm still in a good mood, laughing more than usual - maybe placebo; or summer weather)

 

[I NUK3D U]

I've had many reports on this recently (most are in this thread), and no first-timer has complained of an over-whelming experience, even as high as 40-50mg. The comeup seems to be the biggest problem for people orally, but after that, people are just astounded with it's effects. First timers have expected a much more trippy experience, but whilst it floats you away, it's not a hardcore psych. You'll just feel great for hours, and have a trippy yet enjoyable take on the world around you. That's the best way I can describe it.

Effects people in different ways though. Just ensure an empty stomach, and a stress-free environment. You'll be fine.

 

[GZero]

The AMT Hcl I've been given was a nice surprise, it's strangely forgiving and I can't work out whether its a stimulant or a sedative. Had quite a mindblowing experience last night combineing it with 6-APB.

And it's more of a feeling of general wellbeing than rushing euphoria.

 

[I NUK3D U]

^ combining with 6apb I presume you meant to include?

 

[Evad]

lets stay on topic in this thread please.

 

[knock]

no first-timer has complained of an over-whelming experience, even as high as 40-50mg.

I've not tried it yet but from what I've read this is my impression. I am thinking of starting (after a small tester) at 50mg up the bum. Can't be arsed pussy-footing about in the disappointment area of the dosage spectrum. Am I wreckless?

I posted this (in essence) in the big and dandy thread too but I value the opinions here.

 

[GZero]

I've not tried it yet but from what I've read this is my impression. I am thinking of starting (after a small tester) at 50mg up the bum. Can't be arsed pussy-footing about in the disappointment area of the dosage spectrum. Am I wreckless?

I posted this (in essence) in the big and dandy thread too but I value the opinions here.

i have found that it's much faster acting and speedy experience. but i found it a little overwhelming at times, extremely psychedelic.

 

[I NUK3D U]

^ I would try a couple mgs allergy dose first if I were you, but no, having tried it, I would not consider a 50mg first time dose reckless on the 'effects' side. It's a good two hours come up though - sometimes a lot more. Please please don't be tempted to redose in this time thinking you haven't had enough. Wait at least 6 hours I think before considering a redose, if you think it's needed.

Definitely take a couple mgs the day before though - make sure you're not going to have any problems.

 

[Shambles]

That may be a bit high for a rectal dose first time, I'd say. The oral and rectal dosages are fairly similar but plugging is generally a bit more intense. It's very much down to how you respond to psyches and aMT in particular (funnily enough) - if you're comfortable in that zone it should be no problem at all. If less familiar with the territory it will probably be pretty damn strong but, as many have noted, aMT is about as welcoming and forgiving as psyches get. I'd probably suggest somewhere in the 30-40mg range to get the full effects without going to high too soon so 50mg would be on the high side but not necessarily recklessly so, in my opinion. Depending on prior experience with somewhat similar drugs, of course.

Had quite a mindblowing experience last night combineing it with 6-APB.

I noticed - glad you managed to gather your constituent parts and put them back together at some point

 

[The RZA]

You'll be absolutely fine then. I'm just hesitant to recommend this as a gentle psych in general as everyone reacts differently (i read your other posts saying you'd had experience after i posted the other one - sorry to patronise).

To me AMT is a friendly substance giving you a nice mental trip, without the heavy introspection of its 'D' brother or mushrooms (I found it similar to low dose san pedro). Also, there seems to be a nice mood lift that stays for a few days afterwards (i'm still in a good mood, laughing more than usual - maybe placebo; or summer weather)

No worries Vurtual - I didn't take it as patronising, just that you hadn't read my other post as you said!

And thanks for the info, despite my experience with others in the past, this is one I haven't tried yet and you have so you talk - I listen.