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The EADD aMT Thread

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Mental Kenny said:
Okay fuck it I'll get some, it sounds way too good, I've heard people saying it can be vaped, does it leave any nasty residue on foil? Anyone experienced breathing problems?
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The freebase is best for vaping (it smells a lot more though); i think it's only the salt (HCl) around now. Some say you can vape the HCl, but it's probably a bit dodgy (i think it's the melting point being higher so it's more likely to burn rather than vapourise giving bad fumes). You can convert HCL to base (think details are in the main aMT thread) - however, some say you don't get the best effect from vaping.

Oral was fine for me - didn't taste it (put in a tiny bit of water in a shot glass and knocked it back) - and had no real nausea (only did 20mg though).
 
Vurtual said:
The freebase is best for vaping (it smells a lot more though); i think it's only the salt (HCl) around now. Some say you can vape the HCl, but it's probably a bit dodgy (i think it's the melting point being higher so it's more likely to burn rather than vapourise giving bad fumes). You can convert HCL to base (think details are in the main aMT thread) - however, some say you don't get the best effect from vaping.

Oral was fine for me - didn't taste it (put in a tiny bit of water in a shot glass and knocked it back) - and had no real nausea (only did 20mg though).
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Okay it sounds like I'll stick with oral doses for AMT and then chase some 5-Meo-Dalt on the peak, should be fine.
 
why are you planning to mix before yo have experienced aMT? it can be pretty stimulating on its own and 5-meo-dalt is a pretty shitty drug by all accounts.
 
I just weighed the AMT that I bought last week and 0.5g was actually 0.72g, so anyone 'eyeballing' their dose should be very careful.
 
There is freebase around as well, got some last week. Haven't tried it yet though.
 
Does increasing the dose tend to increase the euphoria and visuals proportionately, or does one effect tend to be more increased then the other? I should have mine tomorrow, but my scales probably wont be here for another week so debating what i should do. No way im waiting a week though lol
 
Madaboutmeph said:
Does increasing the dose tend to increase the euphoria and visuals proportionately, or does one effect tend to be more increased then the other? I should have mine tomorrow, but my scales probably wont be here for another week so debating what i should do. No way im waiting a week though lol
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I found that redosing increased the euphoria substantially, but only slightly the visuals (closed-eye visuals a bit more so). Did 35mg -> 15mg -> 15mg over about 9 hours...entered a state of pure bliss, but the open-eye visuals were nowhere near what I was expecting to be honest. Thinking of trying 50mg first dose next time and seeing if that initial increase changes things substantially.

Anybody know what the 'heroic dose' levels of this is, in general?
 
Ismene said:
40mg for me yesterday, definately a major drug and something to explore. Didn't notice much MDMA feelings to it, Physically I felt it was more like a low dose of LSD but not quite as psychedelic as LSD. It seemed to be like a tryptamine cousin of mescaline - just a very gentle all day psychedelic lollipop.

I think I could only take it rectally from now on tho, gave me 4-5 hours of uncomfortable nausea, I didn't throw up but I couldn't move without feeling sick. And I got a fairly nasty headache after 6 or 7 hours that I couldn't clear. Might drop the dose a little and try rectal. I'd still say it was a beautiful drug tho.
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i found that what u eat can definately effect the nausea, taking it on nearly an empty stomach is the best way too go.. the headache can be a pain but i found again the dosage is dependant on the headache that resides later on and obviously proper hydration and so forth.

i have never tried mescaline though if its anything like aMT i am guessing i would love it :)
 
this is what erowid says about AMT dosage

Oral AMT Dosages
Threshold 5 - 15 mg
Light 10 - 25 mg
Common 20 - 40 mg
Strong 30 - 60 mg
Heavy 60 - 80 mg

We have received several complaints by users that our oral dosages shown are far too low. There are a number of reports of individuals taking 100-200mg recreationally and some of these people argue that the reports of overwhelming effects felt by others at 40-80mg are exaggerated. It is important to keep in mind how much variation there is in experiential effects based on personal biochemistry, expectation, and other difficult to determine factors. We have received reports of overwhelming effects on as little as 40mg and users taking as much as 400mg (!).
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InternetMuse said:
I found that redosing increased the euphoria substantially, but only slightly the visuals (closed-eye visuals a bit more so). Did 35mg -> 15mg -> 15mg over about 9 hours...entered a state of pure bliss, but the open-eye visuals were nowhere near what I was expecting to be honest. Thinking of trying 50mg first dose next time and seeing if that initial increase changes things substantially.

Anybody know what the 'heroic dose' levels of this is, in general?
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Thanks. That sounds great and pretty much what i was hoping for.

watsons torment said:
this is what erowid says about AMT dosage

Oral AMT Dosages
Threshold 5 - 15 mg
Light 10 - 25 mg
Common 20 - 40 mg
Strong 30 - 60 mg
Heavy 60 - 80 mg
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I was also wondering if anyone had tried this at higher doses just incase a eyeballed amount is a little off.
 
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Not aimed at anyone in particular but it sounds like there's a bit too much redosing, eyeballing, wanting to sniff little lines etc going on here.

If 20mgs (or whatever you did) wasn't quite up to it, then leave it a week or so and do 30mg's - with minimum purchase being 250mg's, you've got enough of it to work out your sweet spot over the coming months without pushing it on your first time.
 
I'm strongly considering this for a festival but I'm mildly concerned about the comedown, people say benzos are essential. I've never used benzos for comedowns, not for acid, mdma, coke, mephedrone, anything else I might have eaten in a pill... is it really essential or can I struggle through and continue to party the next afternoon? I'm pretty good at struggling through given sufficient booze and sleep, and I sleep easy on most things.

edit: well I did use valium once after pills as someone was dishing it out and it was pretty good, but I would have easily survived without it.
 
Erowid AMT FAQ:

http://www.erowid.org/chemicals/amt/amt_faq1.shtml


How can I reduce the unpleasant body load of the comedown?

If you have difficulty during the comedown and are unable to just ride it through, taking some sort of depressant is helpful. Some benzos are strongly recommended (you'll need more than one valium to do the job, though!). You'll feel better once it's over with.
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OK, "strongly recommended".
 
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they can help you get to sleep a lot easier but they're by no means neccessary, if you've never needed them for anything else it's not massively worse than MDMA or acid to come down from. that erowid faq is the opinions of one man and no more than that, i find bluelight often a better source of information for things like that because of its wider scope.
 
cheers Evad I will sleep well tonight.

I'm really fucking excited about trying this, I just hide it well.
 
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