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The EADD aMT Thread

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Without being specific, is there actually any of this in the uk atm? I got a free test sample sent to me, but soon after the website that was going to sell it has closed down. Want to know if i can expect any more, or if the tiny bit i got is now (poo-smelling) gold dust.
 
Yeah here's hoping, been looking forward to some aMT for a looooong time.

Just need to get some 0.001mg scales and find a couple of free days now if it turns up =D
 
What is the quality of the aMT in the UK?

I had it from 2 different sources last year and it was a long lasting euphoriant but was sedating to me even when plugging 60mg and smoking a bit too. I was happy but stuck to the sofa or bed. I wanted stimulation too.

Someone suggested it was because they were crap synths that I got not stimulation from it.
 
So looking forward to this one. Any recommendations for a first-timer?
 
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from everything I've read... 40mg seems to be the standard dose.

But I'm going to go for 30mg for my first dose since I haven't tried any form of psychedelics before.
 
^ If anything 30mg sounds high for a first dose from what I've read. I ordered some too, hopefully it will turn up. If and when it does I'll try 15mg just to see what it's like. Something that lasts 12 or more hours you want to be careful not to over do it ;-)
 
Can I take a small dose say 5-10mg, get a nice buzz without tripping balls? Like would it be possible to operate in public while on it? Heard low doses give an mdma like buzz while big doses make it very trippy. Not had psychedelics before would this one be a good first one to try?
 
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botfly said:
Just ordered some of this top try. Can I take a small dose say 5-10mg, get a nice buzz without tripping balls? Like would it be possible to operate in public while on it? Heard low doses give an mdma like buzz while big doses make it very trippy. Not had psychedelics before would this one be a good first one to try?
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5-10mg are in the anti-depressant dose range - precisely the dose that used to be prescribed for depression in Russia, in fact. At that level it'll put a spring in your step and you'll have a great day but nothing like MDMA and certainly not tripping. The more recreational effects start at around 20mg or so and obviously get stronger the higher you go. Can last a loooooong time though - up to 24 hours - and can also take 3-4 hours to kick in sometimes so not one for a schoolnight ;)
 
Shambles said:
5-10mg are in the anti-depressant dose range - precisely the dose that used to be prescribed for depression in Russia, in fact. At that level it'll put a spring in your step and you'll have a great day but nothing like MDMA and certainly not tripping. The more recreational effects start at around 20mg or so and obviously get stronger the higher you go. Can last a loooooong time though - up to 24 hours - and can also take 3-4 hours to kick in sometimes so not one for a schoolnight ;)
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Which i'm on right now%)
 
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So what is a good starting dose for this?
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I'd say its best to start off with the antidepressant dose range to get a feel for it and to see how your body reacts, so 5-10mg to start off with.

On another note, please use this thread to discuss the effects of aMT, how to use it safely etc we don't need to know when you've ordered some, if a vendor has it in stock, or anything else which constitutes vendor discussion :)
 
Dose depends on whether you have the freebase, or the salt. Most people here (I'd imagine) are referring to freebase doses, which you'd have to bump up slightly (about 30%?) to get the equivalent HCL dose.

Shambles can hopefully confirm.

+1 for starting very low in any event - some of the new stuff hitting the UK plant food sites is only recently synth'd and needs to be treated with respect.
 
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Dose depends on whether you have the freebase, or the salt. Most people here (I'd imagine) are referring to freebase doses, which you'd have to bump up slightly (about 30%?) to get the equivalent HCL dose.
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The stuff that i know about atm is supposedly HCL (so no vaping - boo). Doses only differ a small amount, with HCL needing slightly more weight for the same effect (e.g. 25 mg freebase is about ~28mg HCL) - there's a simple formula to convert in the main AMT thread (don't use my figures), but it's not massively different.
 
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I do believe that the HCl can be fairly easily converted to freebase for those that enjoy a lil puff. Could be mistaken but am reasonably sure - the technique is also mentioned in the PD thread :)
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Not easily for a casual 'can't be arsed' user like me (or is that SWIM's FOAF's monkey) - having bowls of shit-smelling chemical soups sitting rounnd for hours to dry etc - i did see details in the pd thread but skimmed past. Luckily there was a little bit of the base around (gone now)

Shambles: do you reckon vaped (base) or oral (HCL) would be better intro to amt? (was thinking a vaped intro may reduce the nausea for the first go; or should you face the nausea to get the full effect and give it respect for the first go) any thoughts? (not asking you to decide for me or anything)
 
I'd say oral for sure or plug it if the nausea is a factor, vaping doesn't give the full experience IME
 
Even as a diehard vaporiser I'd have to mostly agree with Evad. I don't think the difference is so so great to be a dealbreaker but oral or rectal will definitely give a fuller experience. Along with the neverending come-up and acute dysentery :D

Any of those methods is good but if you want the full aMT experience then oral or plugged is the way to go. Vaped is also great but isn't quite there unfortunately. Does completely eliminate nausea/GI discomfort and dramatically reduce the come-up time though so has its place too. Nausea isn't an absolute guarantee if you eat it (or plug it - many have reported just as much discomfort on the come-up from plugging as they do from eating... probably somewhat less likely than oral though) but once it passes and it kicks in proper I doubt you'll be too bothered about prior ickiness somehow ;)
 
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