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The EADD 3-FPM Megathread

Yup, I have gone about my day after multi-day benders, the issue is the uber-fiend - I once debated having a toot in the toilets with smoke detectors right above my head, then realised I'd be in the cubicle for 8 hours or so.
I could see oral dosing being much better given there's a good 4 hours before a redose is needed.
There really doesn't seem to be a typical stimulant comedown in the slightest, which is I think a major part of the tendency to result in incomparable binges.
I am yet to find more immediate downsides than the simple fiending, and the fiending itself is unlike any other drug. Crack glues me to the pipe out of sheer terror of the comedown, knowing it's but 30 seconds away no matter how I use, Meph becomes ineffective after a few doses, but 3-FPM just keeps going, and going, and going.
 
Sprout said:
Yup, I have gone about my day after multi-day benders, the issue is the uber-fiend - I once debated having a toot in the toilets with smoke detectors right above my head, then realised I'd be in the cubicle for 8 hours or so.
I could see oral dosing being much better given there's a good 4 hours before a redose is needed.
There really doesn't seem to be a typical stimulant comedown in the slightest, which is I think a major part of the tendency to result in incomparable binges.
I am yet to find more immediate downsides than the simple fiending, and the fiending itself is unlike any other drug. Crack glues me to the pipe out of sheer terror of the comedown, knowing it's but 30 seconds away no matter how I use, Meph becomes ineffective after a few doses, but 3-FPM just keeps going, and going, and going.
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Comedown wise I get a bit of tiredness on top of what I'd normally be feeling, but that's it and it really doesn't last more than maybe an hour or two. And honestly that might just be me feeling baseline again, I'll have to see if when I switch to fluoxetine I'm not godawful tired all the time so I can actually get a good perspective on this stuff.
 
So, when you comedown off of this stuff there's no nastiness at all, even after being awake for multiple days?

Nastiness can be defined as anything from: paranoia, general feeling of shitiness, difficulty sleeping for days sometimes, loss of appetite, mouth ulcers, exhaustion etc etc etc.... are you just saying that once the bag is finished and the drug leaves your body you feel like you haven't been on a binge at all?
 
Fucking twisted one this - proper Sherlock? 7th day on 3, got a sleep lnite.

So I started talking to this girl on the 1st day, mutal match on POF - it was amazing we clicked like crazy, first conversation lasted 6hrs. No phone call lasted under 2hrs.
We laughed so much. then all week, in between writing a screenplay we were i constant whatsapp and phone contact and we started opening up. She was in a psyche unit for attempted, u know. I told her could relate.

Now even these days technology throws me a curve ball - used to be meet, first base kiss, second bit of boob, third down stairs, 4th bury the python.

Day 3 we talked non-stop filth, shit I don't normally say during a four year relationship, ass play, bondage were mutually masturbating over skype for hours (luck had some actedinfil sp) but it was the best ever we promised not to record and i kept my promise (will I regret....)

- not sure what base that is. She kept wanting selfies, not ideal 4 days no food or sleep. but she really liked me and I really really like her. Our whatapp chats grew ridiculous over one week we had literally written a book all day all night.

Then she changed meds and became bi-polar as fuck - I said I was getting of on the photo's of her bent over playing (great big boobies) with herself and one of her in her car with a new hair cut and professional make up

- she went mental, sent me a photo of her in bed and said I was a pig for liking her with make up on - I just said that you know your in the psych ward, but that photo looks to me like a woman who could be a manager, anything - just confident and in control. Christ - now i'm trying to change her - she just wants to be a good Mum. I said fine sorry, you miss-understood. Eventually things calm but I lost my root and the the kisses become less, we are still addicted to talking - I tell her that I spent 6 weeks in rehab - The reaction! Absolutely hates drugs and drink (family) doesn't believe its a disease, that its the most selfish thing anyone could do. It's behaviour.

I questioned whether her actions could be considered selfish considering she only 23 and has 3 kids - NUKE - she had a brain thing I was just wasting resources - but not before mentioning her 'resources' that she has been in and out since she was 13 and for someone who was going to... she was laughing pretty hard for 6hrs 24 hours after. I Knew I'd crossed a line. I stepped back, took 150mg of 3 mixed with 70mg of lidocaine - perfect mix for me (although that was a huge dose) vaped 30mg waited for the rush to subside, the empathy and sublty and dopamine and of course till i could feel my face.

Braced myself for the inevitable, got comments like everyone prefers me without make up and, the nastiest of all I have options you know. Now this hurt. I could of sent her pictures of me and a 9/10 stripper I dated in Melbourne for 4 months, but just replied we all hae options and I'm sorry if I offended you it was never my intention - its 6/7am she sleeps while i work on my screen play.

Saturday mate calls round and we have great banter and seriously caine the fuck outta it still 7g left or so plus 50g of lidocaine. I'm attentive to whatsapp, though in the morning I did say this is crazy, lets take a little time off but I want to send you some videos on addiction.

She replied about lunch with 'I watched the videos they were very interesting' this was genuine but her anger at me still taking a (greatly reduced amount of) benzos was enough for me keep the 3-FMP firmly locked in the bag.

As this shit goes Sunday rolls round, mate splits about 3 but thank god he does a little tidy before heading - now this matters, but my flat is deliberately shit. I was 100% 'People, places, things' so left the city and got a small basement flat. I could of had a free suite of furniture but turned it down I live in the living room, the bedroom is storage ad the kitchen has life-forms i'm hoping produce a red-letter day.

So Shes got a day out and she looks fantastic, hair done, new dress but this time i'm wary - so I told jesus you are stunning, bit pale tho. I tried to make this into a reference that 'yes your great on the outside, but inside...'

Totally lost in translation, was a bit obscure tbf - bombardment why are you always so negative to me, everyone has said I look great I can't stand all this negativity, sorry abbreviation of my name I don't think this will work - I reply I hate being called that. Another photo and I do shower her with genuine praise, also tried to explain the pale allegory.

She's nicer to me I think this is to long, where is she i need to be in her. She agrees - although cos she felt a little slutty after skyping its 4 dates till we sleep together.

I'm 6 days in and starting to hallucinate a little. I am wrecked.

Phone call - i'm in your town, I've only an hour where are you? FUCK 1st impressions! Ive let my hygiene go to shit, Ive grown a beard, there's foil and baggies and scales and wee measuring spoons. 20+ lighters. I'm high as a kite. It's a small town, were talking 10 mins - clean myself or the paraphernalia - crystal maze gathering the coupons. So busy sticken the my sins in a draw the rest of the house is totally neglected - bare mattress, It looks weird. It looks bad. My clothes are cool tho, scrub my teeth 28 sprays of Paul Smith. Feel like the mental one, not the one out on day pass. Rude.

she parks up the street I go fetch, she is so much better much better looking than the photos. I have a t-shirt on and oversize jacket I immediately put her in and zip it up - in hindsight a fucking horrible thing to do to anyone. We kiss and its amazing, just flirty kisses with a lil tongue but our mouths fit like glove. Last 2 kisses like this ended in a 4 and 5 year relationship. No this is not a romance post.

I leave the kitchen light of and bring her into my flat/squat/crack den - shes shocked. 'Is that your bed?' yup, and sofa, and occasional chair. Immediately she clocks me, what am i on, deny, don't fuckn lie to me what are you on - well 7 day fucking crack binge does seem great so i say 4 ritalin (but shes busted the 50 fucking g's of lido) and a couple of vodka screw caps - she goes of on one over the caps, but lets the massive bag of powder slide. I don't want to look a her, i do want to, but i'm feeling shit. eventually we sit indian style, i take a lecture. Shes let down. Says I knew you were on something last few days - our first chat (6hrs) you were sober and I couldn't believe I met someone like you, I said the same (in my head i said well actually I was totally of my tits the whole time you've known me) she says your so different sober (i am?) I cant have drugs or anything round my kids, we can't be together if your using. I agree - and i fucking want this, I believe she would be the missing bit in my life. I can build ebikes and write get a little place by the shore, sen her everyday - sober - I remind her that bar being korean shes broken all my rules, too young, 3 kids, mental issues. shouts at me, tells me how to live. Admit I'm not perfect but neither is she. That from flipping to 'its over' to an unannounced visit is a lil bi-polar. but shes so beautiful and were on completely the same wave length - both kinda disatisfied we kiss more, it's over an hour and we have to run back to her car. Some how make a 2nd date but she tells me don't put all your eggs in one basket... today I suggested that we have an affair, thro christmas, over our birthdays. Then I'll either move close to her or leave the country. She tells me she gets 60 messages a day on POF and 200 meet me's.

We can't talk today because its a big social worker day and the ex has applied for full custody. Ok, but I thought I'd just look at POF - there she is - and shes changed her profile photo to the one I liked but she went mental over because I shouldn't like her with make up.

What a cluster fuck.
 
protip for stims: have something useful planned to do, other than meet crazy chicks online and watching porn. Do something constructive,
 
lol, seriously, anymore protips, i'm languishing around the conference division. I'm fucking really stuck on this girl tho
 
You know when its written down. pfft, shes so hot tho - I might just take a radical approach, delete her number, whattsapp, tho keep it on a scrap of paper and phone her in a week
 
I love you bruv. That bit about bases and pythons. It's like a mans idea of the process no one will admit to but we all, or perhaps I'm like you at least, think it. Reality is you really want to give her the python after that fuck knows. Mr Python meet Mr boa?.
 
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MUSHET said:
So, when you comedown off of this stuff there's no nastiness at all, even after being awake for multiple days?

Nastiness can be defined as anything from: paranoia, general feeling of shitiness, difficulty sleeping for days sometimes, loss of appetite, mouth ulcers, exhaustion etc etc etc.... are you just saying that once the bag is finished and the drug leaves your body you feel like you haven't been on a binge at all?
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I get a physical comedown off a binge of this; the next couple of days it's feeling tired, but there's a bit of a 'tuesday' effect too (feel tired, wobbly, iritable, demotivated, restless sleep/weird dreams) - this made me speculate there's a serotonin component. This also makes me leave a good gap between sessions to replenish the serotonin system (week minimum; probably still too short but i'm human) - i think if people dose this too regularly it might give some issues (as well as just tolerance): serotonin needs time to recover much more than dopamine (this might be even more important if taking something like fluoxeteine).
 
Vurtual said:
I get a physical comedown off a binge of this; the next couple of days it's feeling tired, but there's a bit of a 'tuesday' effect too (feel tired, wobbly, iritable, demotivated, restless sleep/weird dreams) - this made me speculate there's a serotonin component. This also makes me leave a good gap between sessions to replenish the serotonin system (week minimum; probably still too short but i'm human) - i think if people dose this too regularly it might give some issues (as well as just tolerance): serotonin needs time to recover much more than dopamine (this might be even more important if taking something like fluoxeteine).
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Have you tried 5-HTP to see if it helps with the tuesday blues feeling? If that helps, it would be a strong support for serotonin effects.

If it is giving serotonin effects then I wonder if SSRIs suppress that part of it (like they do for MDMA and meth) or if it's a different mechanism from those and therefore is presenting some level of serotonin syndrome risk. Either way I should probably leave off until my system resettles after I'm done switching SSRIs, especially if you do find 5-HTP helps.
 
I don't know how good looking a girl can be to encourage someone mid stim binge to shave, get ones shit together and move across town to shack up with three bastard children.

If you were any sort of man you would slap that crazy bitch in place and introduce her to the joys of being fucked in a squat by a drug addict who lacks the ability to come for at least four hours. I would also like to point out that the rest of society stopped taking advice fon how one should live their lives from crazy people quite some time ago
 
Cheers Boa,

And that's all the probs solved, she googles herself and winds up on a drug board - were back on whatsapp, the conversation is crippling. I have 2 half bottles and 2 large smiroff ice. - let us get the first glass down
 
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