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The EADD 3-FPM Megathread

^ Wait it go, your going to order MORE, to spite us. The only two people who you're really spiting with that one is #1 your daughter, #2 yourself.
 
CloudStrife01 said:
I'm not denying it's excessive, and I'm not posting about my usage to show who has the biggest testicals either.

I'm simply adding an extra bit of personal research about 3-FPM and it's addictive, and compulsive properties. As well as the good effects.

Although I obviously should drink Red Bull, cus that sounds the shit!
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Sure you could handle it?
 
^ haha, I'm actually the same to be honest. I drank a can of that Monster energy drink this afternoon plus a coffee because I had a long drive ahead of me and was feeling a bit tired. Did the trick, but felt a bit shaky and jittery once I got out the care.
 
Or I find a strong coffee in the morning before eating is good if constipated - it's like I become a human sewage outflow pipe. Not sure if that's the caffeine or some other prooerty in the coffee that is good for the digestive system.
 
MUSHET said:
Yeah, does sertraline affect caffeine, I've not noticed this??!!
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Side effects like this seem to be somewhat depending on the person, but both me and one of my WoW guildies have experienced loss of effect of caffeine after starting sertraline. For me it was loss of all mental effects from caffeine, for him caffeine became somewhat sedating. The other interaction with caffeine and sertraline I have noticed is that if I do jaegerbombs I get a nasty amplification of the spacey feeling the sertraline gave me when I first started (if that makes sense). Ended up switching my drink of choice to tequila shots from jaegerbombs and the sensation went away. (As a sidenote, I also find sertraline reduces the buzz from alcohol. I still get drunk physically, but mentally it's just not nearly as good as before I started sertraline).
 
Honestly, even the comparison to Crack/4-MMC doesn't come close.
I like my Crack, the shit got me sectioned and I still love it, but I can drop the pipe if needs be.
But 3-FPM? Not a fucking chance - it is 110% the most compulsive substance I've ever touched. Not at all addictive, and that's an important distinction to make.

I've avoided this term literally out of fear it'll end up in The Daily Fail at some point, but 3-FPM during a binge (and specifically when vaped/IV'd) is legal Meth in effects with the duration of Crack.

<3
 
CloudStrife01 said:
Last night through to the late morning. I'd been vaping piles and piles of that 10 gram bag. I wanted to save for it Christmas and new year! (there is some left)

I must have been vaping for about 5 or more hours or something. After a few hours into it after having not stopping once, it hit me. I was completely doped up all the way to rainbow land. It was pure bliss, and I had massive euphoria. The effects seem to resemble that of which people speak of using it IV.

So I'd been awake from Thursday, consumed around 7 grams by insufflating 3 grams of 3-F Glass, and vaping 4 grams of 3-F Crystal and stopped around Saturday morning. I then gave it a rest for the day by just eating, drank water, had a tonic, vitamins and chilled.

Then the evening came, and the bag was just too damn good looking. There I go, with very long strips of foil, I dump huge amounts along the length of the foil and just took as much as my lungs could and held it in for as long as I could. Breath out and start again. This went on for quite a while. Stopping only to dump more on the foil, or get a fresh bit of foil.

When it really did finally hit me, I stopped and just felt I existed in my own world for a while. This is when you should stop, but so disinhibited and unable to make conscious decisions, I carried on dumping more on the foil. This went on for well, not sure how long, but eventually my flatmate (it's his actual flat) came in and pretty much said something like "you've had enough". I couldn't really understand any of what he said, and trying to think or talk to him came out pretty garbled.

I took 3 Diclazepam and fell on my bed and had lots of things going on. Beautiful music, random voices, and quotes from films flying around in my brain. So much was going on, but there never was a feeling of anxiety.

Woke up Sunday at 5pm. Feeling absolutely fine. Diclaz still doing it's Majik I suppose.

Well, not sure how much I had of that bag, but it's not very full.

So yeah, I might give it a break for a while...
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Christ mate!! That's quite a performance you put there, I usually get through just under a gram max a day, but it probably would be more if I didn't have to pretend to be a responsible adult at least some of the time. I'm familiar with that blissful euphoric state - its what I usually aim for, but it can be really batch dependent.

SquidInSunglasses said:
Any of you more experienced guys got an estimate of how long it takes for tolerance to 3-FPM to drop off? Just curious what sort of time period I should be looking at before it gets back to starting levels.
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All I know is that it's longer than 3 weeks. The longest break I've had since November 2014 lasted 3 weeks. I thought that would be ample time for tolerance to return to baseline - but sadly not. I've a feeling it may be consistent with the recommended abstinence period for MDMA of 6+ weeks, based entirely on the assumption that 3fpm has more of an effect on serotonin than it is isually given credit for - it certainly possesses the blissed out trippy feeling, visual and auditory hallucinations, enhanced music appreciation and open and honest empathy which are effects I find common to all serotonergics.

Sid said:
Yeah it sounds too compulsive to me, like your not actually enjoying the effects it gives. Vaping stims can be morish but this sounds on a par with crack, infact I actually found mephedrone more mentally addictive than crack lol. RC stims seem to be bad news.
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My initial impression of vaped 3fpm, after crossing the dosing threshold required for the rushes to kick in, was how similar it was to crack - not as intense, but extremely sustainable followed by a smack like chilled euphoria. Although vaping it is very compulsive, I wouldn't say it is fiendish - unlike crack. The 3fpm compulsion to redose is because you actually want to due to the fact that it keeps on working hit after hit, and the doses accumulate to take you higher and higher. In contrast, the fiending from crack is more a case of having to redose in desperation for a momentary release from the edgy, paranoid and psychotic mess you've become and is getting steadily worse with every stone, all in the vain attempt at recreating that first hit of the day.

MUSHET said:
You think there would be a moment, even like a 1/4 bag in or something for talking sake, when folk just want to kick back and enjoy the moment, it's like something is being chased that is never achieved. Pure speculation obviously.
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It's not like you're compulsively redosing constantly, we do take breaks of upto an hour or two between foil duty shifts to kick back and enjoy the moment. It's not all about the chase, its about the results it does achieve.
 
I was still drinking fairly heavily for well over a year after starting sertraline, it's only the last few months I've really cut back with my alcohol consumption. When I get very drunk I tend to blackout, so I can't remember how the alcohol affected me, haha!

One of the first side affects I noticed was my jaw shaking like I had taken stimulants, also bad heart burn (worst I have ever felt, like a hole being burned inside) when I popped the pill in the morning. These symptoms are long gone now. Another, even more unwelcome, side affect was a problem in the sack that I suffered when taking 100mg, I quickly got this reduced to 50mg and all was okay again. I also notice brain zaps if I skip a pill, like if I've stayed over somewhere and not had meds with me. Remimds me of my heavy duty ecstasy binge come down weeks in my early 20s 8o - it worries me somewhat at the thought of weaning off them completely even though I want to.

Jaeger bombs are your drink of choice, what, that's what you drink through choice, first drink of the night and all that? Hardcore.
 
Sprout said:
Honestly, even the comparison to Crack/4-MMC doesn't come close.
I like my Crack, the shit got me sectioned and I still love it, but I can drop the pipe if needs be.
But 3-FPM? Not a fucking chance - it is 110% the most compulsive substance I've ever touched. Not at all addictive, and that's an important distinction to make.

I've avoided this term literally out of fear it'll end up in The Daily Fail at some point, but 3-FPM during a binge (and specifically when vaped/IV'd) is legal Meth in effects with the duration of Crack.

<3
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Sprout said:
That's the weird thing, the duration is actually a good few hours...
But the rush? You get 30 seconds that if you sit to experience it is more enjoyable than the greatest blast of shards or resin from a pipe.
That's no joke, I'd pick the rush of "tranquility" over any stimulant on Earth, it's fuck all like any stimulant I've ever touched.
A solid dose inhaled is like a speedball, for fucks' sake, there's a reason every single user fails to put it into words.

<3
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Moved over from Gibz.
Relevant.
 
There was a place I went to practically every week that did jaegerbombs for a quid fifty, was great when I could still stand them (and the bastards raised the price recently too). That was mostly a club thing though, since the caffeine kept me awake and there was little enough liquid to just neck the whole thing and be straight back to the dance floor. Now I just stick to whatever's going, and stims for clubbing, which is far better.

For me, starting sertraline gave me a spacey feeling for a while, almost like weed, which was fun while it was going. I also got really really bad light sensitivity, to the point where I couldn't stand being in a lecture theatre while wearing sunglasses without my eyes burning. Didn't get much in the way of digestive system problems, a bit of reduced appetite but nothing too troublesome. I've only been on sertraline for 10 weeks and coming off now because I can't focus on uni work at all with this crap in my system. Seem to be getting the same spacey feeling as starting from the taper, haven't noticed any brain zaps, though I've not done E (looking forward to when I don't need antidepressants so I can do that though) so I don't have a sense for what I would be expecting.
 
F.U.B.A.R. said:
It's not like you're compulsively redosing constantly, we do take breaks of upto an hour or two between foil duty shifts to kick back and enjoy the moment. It's not all about the chase, its about the results it does achieve.
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Fair enough man, I had visions of you just robotically chain chasing this stim. Tin foil being used to chase as it's being wound out of it's box, ligher constantly lit, eyes not even blinking for hours and hours at a time like you're a machine sent back in time to hunt down and terminate John Connar, but you found a bag of 3FPM in the dude's leather motorcycle jacket that you stole, so you decide to smoke that instead. Asta la vista baby.
 
As I've tried to find info in this thread (but just seem to find stimmed up drivel), could someone explain to me exactly what the alluring effects of 3-FPM are? The reports I've read are basically ' it didn't really do that much, but I couldn't stop taking it'. Vaped it sounds somewhat like crack?
 
SilentRoller said:
As I've tried to find info in this thread (but just seem to find stimmed up drivel), could someone explain to me exactly what the alluring effects of 3-FPM are? The reports I've read are basically ' it didn't really do that much, but I couldn't stop taking it'. Vaped it sounds somewhat like crack?
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Can only speak for oral, someone else will have to chime in for other ROAs, but it's a decent functional stim with a nice smooth tail end and about 3-4 hour duration (at least at low doses). Decent for clubbing, would probably be good for getting shit done, especially low dose where it's practically caffeine. Higher doses seem like they'd be more of a "high" feeling, but that's just speculation for the moment.
 
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