Shambles: Thanks. That is what I figured. Would you sugest a very small "allergic" dose first? Or not worth bothering? I also assume its quite safe to start at 20mg and add on a few hours in... Fortunately the VICON-123's will aid me in very precise measuring!
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Shambles
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^ Yup. Always wise to start with a tiny dose to check for any unusual reactions but other than that 20mg should be fine to get an idea of the effects. It's a very forgiving drug and people have often gone to very high doses of it. I prefer to snort it (cut with ket) myself as I find it far more psychedelic that way and requires a much smaller dose. Some people experience some GI discomfort and bodyload dosing orally which can be gotten around by plugging - also requires only half the oral dose so very cost effective 
As for redosing, it works to an extent. 2C-C is incredibly short-acting anyway (around 4 hours or so) but I've had no problems topping up or redosing after the initial dose has worn off. Have fun
As for redosing, it works to an extent. 2C-C is incredibly short-acting anyway (around 4 hours or so) but I've had no problems topping up or redosing after the initial dose has worn off. Have fun
Acid4Blood
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ketamine with 2C-B was amazing for me! i wonder who has ever tried ketamine with dmt? snort the ketamine and just as your peaking smoke the DMT!
I smoked ~30mg 5-MeO-DMT imediately after snorting ~200mg ket a few months ago.
Twas fucking crazy to say the least! That was the nite I fell into the shower & smashed my vape pipe. (like I mentioned to you yesterday Bare)
A few days later was when I fucked up the nasal dose of 5-MeO & ended up in hospital.
But yeah, I literally had the vape pipe loaded & ready to smoke just seconds after snorting the k. In hindsight I should probably have waited a few minutes between them. It was a fairly stupid/dangerous idea. 8)
DMT + K would be alot more pleasant I'd imagine.
hmm, they are fairly strong but one of them is a bit underwhelming ime.. took one last night and while I was tripping it really wasn't enough.. when I took 2 on saturday that was a proper dose! I would say taking 2 is safe, but one will certainly give you some effects, can't imagine a half doing much.. start off with one and see how you feel, I would personally say don't bother taking a half, it won't do much.. also don't bother snorting them, tried this last night, a whole pill in a line did very little, better off swallowing them
Shambles
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The advice to not snort 2C-T-7 is more because people have died from snorting it than for effectiveness reasons. Not a good idea to snort the stuff 
B9
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ketamine with 2C-B was amazing for me! i wonder who has ever tried ketamine with dmt? snort the ketamine and just as your peaking smoke the DMT!
That might present some problems I think.
Shambles
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I'm sure I remember f&b saying he'd done the ket/DMT combo. It's one I can't even get my imagination around myself. I suspect it goes something like this though --->
B9
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I've done it myself BUT it's difficult and somewhat wasteful IMO. Vaping DMT on K isn't easily done well. I.M.ing both at the same time would be the best way to proceed I think.
Shambles
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That may well have been the way Bulby Baby went but can't remember off the top of my head, Mr B. Despite being rather partial to both it's not a combo that leaps out at me as being a goody. I get the impression they would clash somewhat rather than synergising. Having said that I suspect I may give it a whirl sometime cos I'm a bit drugpiggy like that :D
B9
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Guaranteed it was - he was doing it the other night.
I'm tempted to try the same route myself TBH
Shambles
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Never had DMT pure enough to IM but imagine it's rather wondrous. One day maybe. Will put in a request with the next elf that passes
I assume when we are talking "small" tester dose, one or two mg will suffice? I've certainly done that before with other stuff.
Okay to do the small tester dose, then 2 hours later take the proper dose? Enough time to rinse out any allergic reactions?
Okay to do the small tester dose, then 2 hours later take the proper dose? Enough time to rinse out any allergic reactions?
Bella Figura
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1-2mg should be enough I think, have you tried any of the other 2c-x's?
I'd personally take the tester dose on one day and save the proper dose for another, but 2C-C is pretty forgiving so it should be alright if you wait a couple of hours then take your normal dose.
Have read of people dosing a couple of times throughout the day so shouldn't be a problem.
I'd personally take the tester dose on one day and save the proper dose for another, but 2C-C is pretty forgiving so it should be alright if you wait a couple of hours then take your normal dose.
Have read of people dosing a couple of times throughout the day so shouldn't be a problem.
Shambles
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Yeah, a couple of mg should be fine to test. You just need to know if your body has some freakish reaction to it so if it's going to it'll do so on a very small amount. It's highly unlikely but safe, sorry and so forth
So....2C-C went fine. About 20mg down the hatch originally, and then top up of about 7-8mg. Original dose def took me off baseline (some nausea in come up) , but def feel that I underdosed... Would prob try 30mg or maybe a bit more next time..
muttonchops
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So, i took 2-CB over the weekend for the very first time @ gay pride in Brighton.....REALLY enjoyed it, was very very fun.
Someone once described the effect to me as a crossed between MDMA and LSD, however i personally wouldn't liken it to MDMA much.
So i took my 100mg wrap, dissolved it in 10ml of vodka (there were no traces of particles left) and we all headed into brighton. Watched the parade then joined it and ended up in preston park for the party. When we got there i measured out x3 1.5ml doses (15mg) for myself, my missus and my friend and then we went about our day. At this point i was slightly nervous that i may have not dissolved it correctly or got the dosing right, but it was just mild paranoia as id never used this method before.
It was at that point that the heavens opened and the torrential rain started so EVERYONE headed to the dance tent thus creating a massive crowed to get inside. We were standing in the crowd waiting to get in for about half an hour, at which time i did a large bump of k and was feeling very wonky. I started to notice my body feeling a little strange, almost as if it was vibrating which got stronger and stronger. Colours were becoming more vivid and images sharper, i felt like it was slowly creeping on me. At this point the crowd moved forward and we were thrust right into the tent and we made out way right to the middle.
It was carnage, you could barely breath, let alone move. I realised at this point i was now really tripping, BUT, if i was on any other hallucinogen i would probably be freaking out now due to the crowds. I found it really easy to control my mind and everything just seemed really nice and fluffy. I found the strobe light to be pretty intense at times and made me feel very disorientated, but in a good way. Sound was quite distorted and at one time i found it hard to hear the music and instead just focused on the background noise, making it hard to dance.
After an hour or so and another bump of K we decided to head out of the tent and it was only once i got back outside that i really appreciated the visuals. I felt like i was seeing in high definition and that i was looking at memories of the 80's. I also decided that if mushroom visuals were organic then 2cb visual were digital, really crisp and fun. If i looked out over at trees though things seemed more wavey and organic.
it was really really heavily raining by this point and we were running around and jumping about in the mud like children. My other 2 mates then turned up who had also had 2cb and we were in stitches.
The vibrations in my body seemed to be solely located in my dinkle now and felt quite strange, but not annoying.
We did some laughing gas, nearly all fell over (very enjoyable).
All in all, it was very fun. Made what would have been a very rainy miserable day, a fun and exciting experience. Very manageable fluffy trippy experience shared with good friends. It was great as i wasn't "forced" to feel good, like with MDMA, i still felt pretty sound of mind and could enjoy the company of my friends.
I think the next time ill probably go up to 25mg but enjoy it in the country side on a hot summers day. I'm the sort of person that likes his hallucinogens this way and not in a confined club / pub environment. I could imagine though that it would be pure bliss to take it with MDMA. Once i can get hold of some real stuff im defiantly going to experiment with this.
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Someone once described the effect to me as a crossed between MDMA and LSD, however i personally wouldn't liken it to MDMA much.
So i took my 100mg wrap, dissolved it in 10ml of vodka (there were no traces of particles left) and we all headed into brighton. Watched the parade then joined it and ended up in preston park for the party. When we got there i measured out x3 1.5ml doses (15mg) for myself, my missus and my friend and then we went about our day. At this point i was slightly nervous that i may have not dissolved it correctly or got the dosing right, but it was just mild paranoia as id never used this method before.
It was at that point that the heavens opened and the torrential rain started so EVERYONE headed to the dance tent thus creating a massive crowed to get inside. We were standing in the crowd waiting to get in for about half an hour, at which time i did a large bump of k and was feeling very wonky. I started to notice my body feeling a little strange, almost as if it was vibrating which got stronger and stronger. Colours were becoming more vivid and images sharper, i felt like it was slowly creeping on me. At this point the crowd moved forward and we were thrust right into the tent and we made out way right to the middle.
It was carnage, you could barely breath, let alone move. I realised at this point i was now really tripping, BUT, if i was on any other hallucinogen i would probably be freaking out now due to the crowds. I found it really easy to control my mind and everything just seemed really nice and fluffy. I found the strobe light to be pretty intense at times and made me feel very disorientated, but in a good way. Sound was quite distorted and at one time i found it hard to hear the music and instead just focused on the background noise, making it hard to dance.
After an hour or so and another bump of K we decided to head out of the tent and it was only once i got back outside that i really appreciated the visuals. I felt like i was seeing in high definition and that i was looking at memories of the 80's. I also decided that if mushroom visuals were organic then 2cb visual were digital, really crisp and fun. If i looked out over at trees though things seemed more wavey and organic.
it was really really heavily raining by this point and we were running around and jumping about in the mud like children. My other 2 mates then turned up who had also had 2cb and we were in stitches.
The vibrations in my body seemed to be solely located in my dinkle now and felt quite strange, but not annoying.
We did some laughing gas, nearly all fell over (very enjoyable).
All in all, it was very fun. Made what would have been a very rainy miserable day, a fun and exciting experience. Very manageable fluffy trippy experience shared with good friends. It was great as i wasn't "forced" to feel good, like with MDMA, i still felt pretty sound of mind and could enjoy the company of my friends.
I think the next time ill probably go up to 25mg but enjoy it in the country side on a hot summers day. I'm the sort of person that likes his hallucinogens this way and not in a confined club / pub environment. I could imagine though that it would be pure bliss to take it with MDMA. Once i can get hold of some real stuff im defiantly going to experiment with this.
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bogman
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did some 2C-C for the 1st time sat nite and wow it was fun and colourful.
nite started off with a few drinks with a few BLs and then had a few small bombs
of M1 and then snorted a few tiny lines of M1 then dropped a small bomd of 2C-D
about 15mg.
left a club and went back to a mates house where had a 30mg bomb of 2C-D and had a
few hours of fun=talkin plenty and floating away with the music.
we then decide to take the 2C-C and it was brillant=the visuals were a lot better and colours everywhere,the music was still brillant but not as good as music on 2cd.
had 20mg bomd of 2cc and really njoyed the trip.somethings were crazy n trippy but all in a good way.
i think the 2cc is "light "enough to njoy the trip n visuals without it getting to deep.
next week i hope to mix both 2Cs at same time and see what happens.
P.S=came up on both 2Cs ok with no bodyload or any problems.
nite started off with a few drinks with a few BLs and then had a few small bombs
of M1 and then snorted a few tiny lines of M1 then dropped a small bomd of 2C-D
about 15mg.
left a club and went back to a mates house where had a 30mg bomb of 2C-D and had a
few hours of fun=talkin plenty and floating away with the music.
we then decide to take the 2C-C and it was brillant=the visuals were a lot better and colours everywhere,the music was still brillant but not as good as music on 2cd.
had 20mg bomd of 2cc and really njoyed the trip.somethings were crazy n trippy but all in a good way.
i think the 2cc is "light "enough to njoy the trip n visuals without it getting to deep.
next week i hope to mix both 2Cs at same time and see what happens.
P.S=came up on both 2Cs ok with no bodyload or any problems.
2cb had quite a weird physical bodyload for me; made me feel kinda gassy but also empty, not really stomach cramp either exactly, just this slight discomfort. It was quite mild though and I didn't feel like puking or shitting really... seemed to pass once i'd come up properly and then it was a lot smoother and more mellow. I'd drunk a bit and not eaten much...
I didn't find myself ecstatic or anything when tripping, I felt nice but also really calm... not massively chatty but also talking to friends and having a laugh was nice. Definitely everything became really "digital" in terms of clarity; it was night but there was so much more focus to lights and stuff. I took a fairly low dose and it didn't really cause any open eye visuals, was more just this beautiful energy and clarity in lights and patterns, which doing bumps of K accentuated even more, and really brought out some crazy CEVs with.
I was a bit apprehensive about drinking/smoking up/doing K on the 2cb but they all seemed to go fine, I didn't get sketched out at all, where as I know if I started doing big bumps on K and toking on spliffs on a proper mushroom trip i'd be going somewhere wild... as it was, t'was very easy on the head (although i'd passed out earlier in the night and some friends had drawn all over me, which I only realised mid trip bah... wanted it off!)
Sounds like some cool experiences above... so 2C-Xs seem to mix ok with methylone? Do they reduce the "crash" a bit?
I didn't find myself ecstatic or anything when tripping, I felt nice but also really calm... not massively chatty but also talking to friends and having a laugh was nice. Definitely everything became really "digital" in terms of clarity; it was night but there was so much more focus to lights and stuff. I took a fairly low dose and it didn't really cause any open eye visuals, was more just this beautiful energy and clarity in lights and patterns, which doing bumps of K accentuated even more, and really brought out some crazy CEVs with.
I was a bit apprehensive about drinking/smoking up/doing K on the 2cb but they all seemed to go fine, I didn't get sketched out at all, where as I know if I started doing big bumps on K and toking on spliffs on a proper mushroom trip i'd be going somewhere wild... as it was, t'was very easy on the head (although i'd passed out earlier in the night and some friends had drawn all over me, which I only realised mid trip bah... wanted it off!)
Sounds like some cool experiences above... so 2C-Xs seem to mix ok with methylone? Do they reduce the "crash" a bit?
Red Arrow
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had some 2c-c for first time on saturday too
funnily enough, i also started the night off with beers and then some 2c-d after the pub
strange combo but pretty cool
didnt get the sinister vibe thats sometimes associated with certain strains of mushrooms and stuff, was wide awake and conscious of surroundings etc
i actually even thought that i was capable of driving (obviously i wouldnt have been and i didnt but the clarity of the drug is such that you would feel pretty comfortable with the world and your surroundings)
id like to try 2c-c again but am fully aware that abuse or even regular use of the 2c-x range of research chemicals will only lead to problems.
has anyone here got experience of constant regular use of 2c-x chemicals? care to comment of any negative/positive effects?
edit: 2c-b is still my favourite, especially when its mixed with good quality acid.
funnily enough, i also started the night off with beers and then some 2c-d after the pub
strange combo but pretty cool
didnt get the sinister vibe thats sometimes associated with certain strains of mushrooms and stuff, was wide awake and conscious of surroundings etc
i actually even thought that i was capable of driving (obviously i wouldnt have been and i didnt but the clarity of the drug is such that you would feel pretty comfortable with the world and your surroundings)
id like to try 2c-c again but am fully aware that abuse or even regular use of the 2c-x range of research chemicals will only lead to problems.
has anyone here got experience of constant regular use of 2c-x chemicals? care to comment of any negative/positive effects?
edit: 2c-b is still my favourite, especially when its mixed with good quality acid.