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The Drug's in the Mail - The Silk Road and our very own Tronica!

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peterpellet said:
bear in mind that increased competition = increased violence, alot of these young SR starts up could find themselves in big trouble once the higher ups figure out there taking a chunk of their profits.
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I doubt they are even able to import anything more than personal consumption quantities and a little bit more. The big players, we are talking about kilos and kilos of stuff not someone who imports a a gram or 2 even an oz is nothing for them.
 
^ not to mention that silk road is amazingly anonymous, and the fact that the 'higher ups' (whatever that means) are either involved already, or not having their 'turf' encroached upon.
 
well ive seen people sales on their for 100g's of a number of substances,

100g is alot, enough to make a 1000 good caps or if its coke its alot, nothing to be luaghed at
 
Although Australian coke is cut to shit and extremely overpriced, 100g and big time are mutually exclusive.
That's not to say importing drugs is to be laughed at, as it happens globally (although I assume on a much lesser scale in Australia than most other places)
If you think big time dealers don't have the means to convince people involved in the chain of mail/import/export business to let things slide, as well as simply trying to disguise their drugs as things, then I think you're mistaken. I remember watching this documentary and it was about a port that sees lots of those big metal craters, and it's a constant cat and mouse game between the drugs and the cops. I mean most of the K comes from 2 places, and it's-
Now I'm just getting off track.
greater market =/= greater violence
 
Even 1000 is nothing, these "higher ups" would only ever be local youths that have just been patched, which are little more than thugs not really higher up. No one that actually matters is going to give a flying fuck about people doing this, and you won't have worries about the other people if you aren't a fool that goes flashing it around what your up to at shopping centres and the like.
 
Esotericism said:
Even 1000 is nothing, these "higher ups" would only ever be local youths that have just been patched, which are little more than thugs not really higher up. No one that actually matters is going to give a flying fuck about people doing this, and you won't have worries about the other people if you aren't a fool that goes flashing it around what your up to at shopping centres and the like.
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maybe the term higher ups was wrong, i was thinking high on a local scale ey bikie members/noms, what im trying to get at is that the ease at which relatively large amounts of drugs (on a street scale) can be bought can result is alot of people who arnt really criminals or criminal types being exposed to that life and what it entails - robberys, beatings - stand over etc. Some young kid can think hes killing it then find himself going for a very scary boot ride. if the wrong people find out what hes up to
 
That I can agree on. It isn't just limited to people buying online and not being careful about who knows however, I've known multiple people that were too vocal about what they were doing as basically naive kids over the years who faced kidnappings and being extorted. Most young people involved in dealing seem to think they are invincible and will never be caught out legally or otherwise regardless of their source...
 
Very informative and factual. Have been researching the SR option for some time, for the exact reasons listed. Being new to the area (country!), and having a family, I've been reluctant to seek out "back alley" dealers. Mostly from fear of detection by law enforcement, as well as the risk of getting bashed, which I've heard is a favorite pastime here directed towards foreigners. I believe SR is well worth the (limited) risk involved considering the alternatives for someone in my position, and according to the reviews I've read on SR, the quality is consistently better than most products getting stepped on in the streets. Will post about my upcoming experience! Thanks for sharing!
 
The risk is actually worse with SR, getting done for importation, and in higher amounts, intent to distribute, is much worse. The risk of getting caught purchasing drugs "on the street" if you keep your wits isn't all that high in my experience, although the quality is lower and the price is higher.
In my experience, dealers aren't too violent here, nothing compared to the stories of the US, especially in the 'ghetto'
My knowledge isn't based on bikies pushing drugs, but even then I assume a lot of the violence is with rival bikie gangs peddling drugs and interfering with their business, not directed at their customers, but this is just an assumption.
The one 'bigger' dealer I knew was not violent.
 
SR prices are absurd, i'm guessing the primary market is middle aged women who don't want to deal with people.
 
^ dealing with people is over rated in my opinion.
As far as violence and getting ripped off goes this is more likely to happen if you dont have a reliable contact and buy from strangers on the street or at open houses. Desperate people taking advantage of a difficult situation.
Most dealers I've met have been reasonably normal middle class types who are unlikely to be involved in any violence at all. That said if you dont know someone like this it would be easier to get things posted directly...
 
you can't find anything about arrests tied to SR, but you have to wonder how many people have woken up to the fuzz at the door. it's not like small busts are reported on and it's not like some dude who gets busted is going to come right out and say the package came through SR, although if someone did i'm sure it would be a big story. truth is, we have no idea how many buyers (more vulnerable and inexperienced with internet security) have been pinched. i can't be the only one who's lost packages in the mail long before all this internet stuff when they weren't even looking as hard.
 
there are regularly listings for multi-thousand dollar deals on SR and plenty of people advertising only bulk sales. peterpellet might have a point.
 
Clearly the benefits of SR are in the eye of the beholder. For folks already well hooked up, the benefits of SR seem limited... but for other people, it's providing a service they can't otherwise access, even though there are other risks which need to be considering. It is concerning though that people may feel more invincible due to the sense of anonymity of online transactions which can lull some into a false sense of security IMO.
 
I agree, although I don't consider that a real concern. People should gather some information pertaining to all of this, they should be aware of the risks/possible consequences, both good and bad.
If somebody is going to order drugs, they should be aware of what they're doing. If they start doing things with their eyes closed I'm not going to have any sympathy for such consequences as a result of stupidity.
The information is readily available. Ignorance isn't an excuse.
I mean the uncertainty of what's happened and is happening at customs is enough to destroy any security, it's simply a random matter of chance.
 
The point is that people make choices when scoring their DOC's whether up-front from a dealer or through the mail. No matter how poorly or well-informed people are they still make concious decisions to act and I'm sure the consequences of success or disappointment must be considered before they proceed. Tbh Death, I don't think anyone getting busted on the SR route would anymore pull the sympathy-card than someone getting collared doing business with a dealer. It's with eyes wide-open that you solicit goods. As Tronica suggests, SR has probably been well-received by those who cannot source their wants through traditional illegal channels and for whom SR offers a different illegal channel that they can access, with the attending risks. Same dog, different leg-action, really.
 
I know this. I'm saying that a raised sense of security because it's online is a result of a lack of information, and if you don't make the conscious decision to become cognizant of the big picture/consequences I'm not going to be concerned about you, because whether you're in a state of awareness or not when you're caught doesn't change my concerns. Do I think anyone should be in jail for drugs? No. When people get sent to jail because they've carelessly ordered their drugs online, are they going to be any more a concern of mine than someone who is careful or someone on the street? No.
I'm pretty sure we agree here hippy.
 
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