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But folley as I asked before what do you think of regular amp? How does that compare? I'm thinking to try low doses to substitute MDMA at raves and such.
 
^ Regular amp has like 5 times less dopamine release than meth, so it is MUCH safer, and less addictive. It would be a great substitute for raves, in low doses and in combo with weed/booze it would be VERY similar to rolling too...

A want to go meet/talk to people, social barriers down, dancing will feel great, and all that good stuff...

A low dose (30mgs tops) with other drugs seems to me to be a very sustainable rave drug. You could do it every week with little consequence, if the doses are kept low. Plus you know you're going to be up and active for the whole rave, no unwanted flooring.
 
I would agree, I've been saying this to make MDMA look bad, not to make meth look good. Meth is an extremely addictive drug, maybe the most addictive in the world. If you exclude that urge to redose constantly that comes from tickling your reward center though, the damages are really one in the same...


To think of meth as a horribly damaging drug (it is), and MDMA as a safe drug is... well, stupid. They are so similar, its not even funny. That doesn't mean meth isn't as bad as they say it is, because it REALLY is. But again, MDMA is very close behind it.
 
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I would agree, I've been saying this to make MDMA look bad, not to make meth look good. Meth is an extremely addictive drug, maybe the most addictive in the world. If you exclude that urge to redose constantly that comes from tickling your reward center though, the damages are really one in the same...


To think of meth as a horribly damaging drug (it is), and MDMA as a safe drug is... well, stupid. They are so similar, its not even funny. That doesn't mean meth isn't as bad as they say it is, because it REALLY is. But again, MDMA is very close behind it.
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the thing with meth though folley is
a. its more available for you
b. its cheaper?

dont go down that road man, it looks like a one way lane actually
You assisted my stoner decision, im telling you to steer clear of the Meth.
 
Nah meth isn't really cheaper, still around the same price per .1G of MDMA I think. But it is easier for me to find, If I buy crystal I know its gonna be meth, if I buy "molly" it could be anything..


I don't plan on ever smoking meth again, maybe meth bombs though, but only because my dealer basically gives them to me for free sometimes... hell I got this meth for free anyways.


Make no doubt about it though, meth is probably, no it is, the most addictive drug I have ever done. But was a habitual addiction for me, just like MDMA. You don't have to smoke meth all day everyday, you can use it responsibly like any drug...



Honestly though, if you just want a MDMA substitute, I probably wouldn't go with meth. I would just do regular amphetamines, same basic feeling (still EXTREMELY close to MDMA...), but less neurotoxic and addictive
 
Lol im getting a gram of 60% pure lab tested speed tomorrow lol
 
Actually no, powder lol. I've never even seen paste XD and yeah snorting is fun lol
 
Why is it only 60% then lol..?


Snorting IS fun though. Its just fun to do, forget the high.... I feel like there should be some product out there that is just made to be snorted, it wouldn't get you high, but it would be flavored and specially made to go up hella smooth... because I love chopping up lines of coke/speed/whatever

Almost as fun as smoking lol, maybe more.
 
60% procent is actually pretty good. Most speed is around 30 i've heard. atleast here
edit: snuff sounds like something you'd enjoy lol. It's tobaco flavored like mint designed to be snorted, and it's kinda nice. I never forget the look on this cops face when I took some up my nose infront of his face lol
 
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Speed in the UK must be like 10% then :!

I guess cut speed is better than cut MDMA lol... I would think that mine is mostly pure though, a small like 20mg dissolved in water almost instantly.


Have you tried adderall dezz? How would you say mixed amphetamine salts compares to racemic amphetamine?
 
I did, but I was rolling pretty hard so wouldnt know what it is like lol. I remember it made me quite jittery though...
 
I'll add my 2c wrt meth before sam starts deleting posts :P

I enjoy shards + mdma as I'm too messy on mdma alone, meth straightens me up, still enjoying the euphoria just not all over the place. I agree the comedown from that combo is very uncomfortable, my fav of the two is mdma
 
^ Do you smoke the shards while rolling? I bet that would be amazing...


Meth and MDMA is SOOO much more neurotoxic though... the two synergize extremely well, but because of that your brain releases practically all the chemicals used by your brain to make you function (Serotonin, Dopamine, Norepinephrine, Prolactin, Oxytocin and more...), and in large amounts... I very strongly recommend the combo.... it's what really fucked me up.

The sad thing is, MDMA + meth is becoming really common to put in pills nowadays, and none of those E tards will listen to me when I tell them how bad it is :\
 
I've found that having a twirl when rolling severely dampens the experience,like having an upper with a downer. We usually have a toke beforehand and then again afterwards :)
 
Don't think I've heard anyone refer to smoking meth as "toking" lol... but my dad sure likes that word!

But REALLY? I couldn't see how they would cancel each other out.... Are you smoking like a lot when you do? I would think a hit or two would be perfect... be careful smoking after rolling though, keep it light. After rolling would be the time your most susceptible to damage


Most recently I took maybe 40-50mgs of MDMA tops with like 40mgs of Methyphenidate, the speed potentiated the MDMA by a LOT, I actually had a really good "roll" on the tiniest amount of MDMA snorted with speed
 
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