Folley
Bluelighter
We don't KNOW anything.
We don't even know we exist, because our concept of existing may be incorrect.
But I think it's best to bring in Occam's razor when a discussion starts going like this.
Yeah, but there's simply no simple answer to the universe. It's the most complex thing that has ever or can ever exist, because it is everything that has ever and will ever exist.
Let's not forget that the Big Bang Theory assumes that something can become of absolute nothingness as well

Really though this discussion could go on forever lol, when no one knows the answer to something it's kind of pointless to argue about it, I've learned.