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The Cigarette Thread

Anyone else enjoy Cuban cigars if so whats your favourite brand?
Tried a few other cigars that are not cubans and they suck.

Try Macanudo and CAO etc, good non cubans out there and plenty of them.

Smoking Kent Futura at the moment (blue 3 tek pack)
One of the few cigs out there with a cigar-type aftertaste!

And some NL x Haze #5!
 
I smoke cigarettes, cigars, cigarillos (little cigars), and joints.

Camel Black, Fleur de Savane, Clubmaster Mini Vanilla, unknown kind bud and average hash.
 
The fag ad name gag

IT IS one of the highest profile campaigns in the country but few are willing to be publicly associated with it.

All the businesses involved with Imperial Tobacco Australia's no nanny state campaign against cigarette plain-packaging have been gagged by strict confidentiality agreements.

The ad is appearing in electronic and print media and even on postcards distributed at retail outlets.

It depicts a fierce-looking nanny saying that she ''makes the rules around here'', before a voice-over implores people to stop the nanny state and contact their member of parliament to express their disapproval of the federal government's legislation on plain-packaging.

The ad has attracted attention but no one can take the credit for it.
Imperial Tobacco Australia's head of corporate affairs and legal, Cathie Keogh, said the groups and people who worked on the commercial had signed confidentiality agreements.

Even the actress who plays the nanny cannot publicly discuss her role in the campaign.

''The actress who appears in the campaign is not allowed to do media interviews under the terms of her contract.''

She joins other figures from Australian advertising who have lodged in the popular consciousness - perhaps for all the wrong reasons - such as Genevieve Morris, who played ''Barbara from Bank World'' in an ANZ campaign, Deborah Kennedy, who uttered the immortal line, ''Not happy, Jan'', for Yellow Pages, and Patrick O'Meara, who appeared for Telstra BigPond, saying that the Great Wall of China was built ''to keep the rabbits out''.

Stafford Sanders, the communications officer for Action on Smoking and Health Australia, said the tobacco industry's poor reputation meant few were willing to be affiliated with the ads.

''It's not a good look to be associated with the tobacco industry.''
An international survey of 85,000 people conducted by the Reputation Institute and AMR Australia this year found the tobacco industry ranked at the bottom of 25 major industries in terms of reputation.

Mr Sanders said the industry's claim that the campaign was aimed at people aged over 18 was laughable because the bulk of smokers take up the habit as minors.
''What makes the nanny state campaign so misleading is that it claims to be aimed at adult smokers,'' he said.

''The tobacco industry knows perfectly well that children are its main target market for new customers.''

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Hhmmm it's a little eye-opening to look at the profits of some of these companies, the portion of it that comes from the Australian market, and just how much they're spending on campaigning against this plain packaging. Makes you wonder if they're really worried about lost sales or just loss of branding?

Example: Philip Morris 2010 Annual Report (page 8 is quiet interesting)
 
I have to laugh in those ads where they warn about plain packaging on alcohol. Like the arse is falling out of the clean skin market. :\

The difference between drinking alcohol and smoking is most people can distinguish between a good drop by taste. You only have to look at how happy a smoker is to bum any old cigarette on the street to realise that marketing is a powerful tool for cigarette companies.

Imagine how much money would saved if the government was the only tobacco vendor.
 
I don't envy those prisoners being forced to give up smoking. Personally I don't see the point in banning smoking in prisons as you just create a ridiculous black market and it will undoubtedly be the more violent and ruthless prisoners that ultimately benefit from the emergence of it.

Busty it is pretty easy to tell the difference between brands of cigarettes, it is just that the majority of smokers are addicted and will put up with a shitter brand if they have to, most drinkers aren't hooked so have no real reason to have a drink they don't like just because it may be the only one available at the time.
 
What exactly would the economy of a prison, with it's limited population and pretty tight customs controls be? I'm aware a black market exists regardless, but if you are choosing to pay $200 of your limited funds on a pouch of a drug with next to no enjoyable effects then you should be locked up to protect not only society but yourself.

$200 for a hit of acid on the other hands ;)
 
Personally I would much rather a pouch of tobacco than a hit of acid and being in jail would only slant that in favour of the tobacco even more.

Tobacco is limited in its enjoyable effects but in my view its plain ignorant to say it has next to none, if that was the case why would so many people ENJOY smoking? One of the positives about smoking, and I suspect the main reason prisoners have traditionally been such heavy smokers, is that it is a good way to pass some time when you have some to kill.
 
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