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Benzos The Big Phenazepam Throw Together Pt. I

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BollWeevil said:
^So the w/d did come after all, huh? The half-life of phenazepam is ridiculous! I figured it would take awhile for w/d to kick in... but 4 days?!
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no the phenazzy was bunk. and ive w/d from clonaz before (ran out of script early lol) and went 6 days without, i was right at the hump when i finally got them refilled (was rather relieved, though now that i think about it*.....)

* thinking of hopping off clonaz and let me body be dependent on nothing. clonaz inhibits deep sleep, increases bad sleep, goes to placebo effect if you're not dose increasing, dose increasing leads to too many problems

but god damn i dont want to put a w/d on top of a w/d, but being functional by fall semester is sorta important. i have like 3 months, with a three week taper plan
 
MescalitoBandito said:
Wait. Since when?
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can't ask about powders etc here. no way for us to tell, would be bad harm reduction

i don't think we can source at all, so that we don't attract media attention or w/e

personally i think allowing sharing in PMs or a certain location where people can find out what's fake and what's not, what's reliable what isn't, would be good harm reduction
 
qwe said:
no the phenazzy was bunk. and ive w/d from clonaz before (ran out of script early lol) and went 6 days without, i was right at the hump when i finally got them refilled (was rather relieved, though now that i think about it*.....)

* thinking of hopping off clonaz and let me body be dependent on nothing. clonaz inhibits deep sleep, increases bad sleep, goes to placebo effect if you're not dose increasing, dose increasing leads to too many problems

but god damn i dont want to put a w/d on top of a w/d, but being functional by fall semester is sorta important. i have like 3 months, with a three week taper plan
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You can try to switch to etizolam as an intermediate between clonazepam and sobriety. I also despise the effect that benzos have on sleep, but etizolam doesn't mess with deep sleep (though it does effect REM sleep somewhat). I know that it has a shorter half-life, but it is still a medium-length benzo, and I think the benefit of being able to sleep better and thus recover better is worth it.
 
so I came to the conclusion that i can't feel my phenazepam anymore is because i've been taking it non stop for about a week and ive grown accustomed to the phenaz so my question is how long should i take a break of my use of phenazepam and also, can i use clonazepam during this break or will it ruin the whole point of taking the break?
i could continue to use the phenaz for its therapeutic effects w/o a type of "buzz"
or i could stop and save the phenaz and do my k pin taper that im supposed to be doing. but i just wanna know the minimum time to wait in between phen doses for best results. i know the halflife is 60hrs should i have to wait that long?

EDIT: just realized i had this idea earlier today and its even a few posts up ^ lol.. wow amazing what a lot of benzos will do to your memory.. still like an answer tho. oh and how long do you think until w/ds?
 
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>>so me and a friend came to the conclusion that i can't feel my phenazepam anymore is because i've been taking it non stop for about a week and ive grown accustomed to the phenaz >>

dude, as a person who can smoke 5 joints and not get much trippy effect, take piles of klonopin, and eat through opiates like GOD DAMMIT QUITTING SUCKS, take this advise from me:

keep it casual

maybe try a twice a month regimen? youve displayed behavior indicative of the possibility of you getting addicted

and even if you totally agree, your body/mind will find ways to trick you into taking more,

and you'll be trapped if you went too far, and once trapped, the guerilla baby egg pops and all of a sudden your limbic system is rewired

this all takes place over like 10 years tho... probly 15-20 to hit "rock bottom" so it actually is rather enjoyable at times before the addiction's end, depending on how you juggle your tolerance and potentiators lol
 
^ im already addicted to opiates and benzos, im on suboxone and have been for 3 years.. and im on a klonopin taper to try to get off benzos i started at 5mg kpin and i go down .5mg a month until i reach 2mg than go down slower. So dont preach about addiction to me, and if that wasnt what you were trying to do, i apologize, that's just how it came off. i know what addiction and w/ds are like so dont talk to me like i dont.. i was just talking about specific phenazepam use. which WAS- if i continue my k pin taper while im waiting for my phenazepam tolerance to go down, wouldn't it screw it up since there both benzos? so i wouldnt really be taking a break? i would just be lowering intake?
 
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I did 3mg this morning oral (PG&EtOH) (under tongue for a while then swallow). Probably a little more than I would do on a work day. Once I fought the urge to sleep I am fine as hell.

No couch lock. Want to work on hobbies and weekend projects. will smoke some JWH on top of this and get the daily chores done.
 
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HdoubleODeezy said:
^ im already addicted to opiates and benzos, im on suboxone and have been for 3 years.. and im on a klonopin taper to try to get off benzos i started at 5mg kpin and i go down .5mg a month until i reach 2mg than go down slower. So dont preach about addiction to me, and if that wasnt what you were trying to do, i apologize, that's just how it came off. i know what addiction and w/ds are like so dont talk to me like i dont.. i was just talking about specific phenazepam use. which WAS- if i continue my k pin taper while im waiting for my phenazepam tolerance to go down, wouldn't it screw it up since there both benzos? so i wouldnt really be taking a break? i would just be lowering intake?
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sorry, the quote sounded like i mite have had to give the newb speech, and in benzo withdrawal i'm pretty talkative typative
 
he gave me the noob speech/ or was gonna..
and i aint no noob..
i actually think im one of the most active members in this forum. (not all of BL just OD)
and if im not, than my mistake, but save the noob speech for someone who needs it.
 
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Yeah, but posts aren't necessarily directed at specific forum members, I don't think he meant that for you specifically, but for anyone who might be reading and lacking in your experience.
 
I knew a guy that sold the stuff in pure 99.9% powder form, grams at a time. It's kind of hard to eyeball 1mg of phenazepam powder, if you're off you could take a blackout dose :\ maybe even lethal.
 
I just got an order of 1g phenazepam today.[snip - little too specific - leftwing]. I've been eyeballing doses all evening, possibly having gone over 30mg and I just feel slightly impaired. What's wrong with me? I also smoked some crack.
 
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could be the smoked crack,
but we're not allowed to talk about vendors here but i know exactly who you mean by selling in the little "xxxxx".. it's his trademark type thing.. and also the product might be bunk. sorry to tell you. he hasn't had the best reviews.
 
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