Benzos The Big Phenazepam Throw Together Pt. I

[Bella Figura]

Its good for anxiety from what I remember, its got a 60hour half life.

 

[rangrz]

I have managed to get some phenazapam disolved into propylene gylcol at 2mg/ml with a litte heat and aggitation.

I have done a bit of research but would be reasured if someone would tell me that propylene gylcol is safe to drink a ml or two of.

benzos prepped for IV use are in propylene glycol.

Its also FDA "generall yrecognized as safe"
http://www.atsdr.cdc.gov/tfacts189.html#bookmark01

The Food and Drug Administration (FDA) has classified propylene glycol as an additive that is “generally recognized as safe” for use in food. It is used to absorb extra water and maintain moisture in certain medicines, cosmetics, or food products. It is a solvent for food colors and flavors

 

[ebola?]

benzos prepped for IV use are in propylene glycol.

Its also FDA "generall yrecognized as safe"

And it appears in zillions of OTC "liquid gel cap" preparations, designed for oral ingestion.

ebola

 

[hobhead]

having no readily active to phroplele, i chose, instead style as is on hand
first off let me say that the teeny quantity was danting as there were no reasonable method to divide the contents and smaller scale soluabiliy,
my method was to take an oral dose, graduated in milliunits and compine the23mg powder to a class and then add the ethy fom the syringe to the tune of 25 mm-this would effectively convigure ease single dose to one (iImG)

at first it seemed that my kitchen sink foolishness was dooomed. the powder remained in soluion regardless of agitation, sturring, etc. then to my surprize, some 12 hours later the powder is no in evidene-disolved i am sure.
have taken one mg but it's too early to report let me speak. dumb dumb is the outcone. not useful in cituations during life
would like to read from others going method

 

[fluxy]

phenazepam powder dilution

I had an idea to work out a reasonably safe way to make accurate measurements of this compound.

1) meausure with 0.01 scales 100mg.

2) die with a very potent die, for example, a blue food colouring.

3) let it dry out thouroughly

4) Add 100grams of glucose or lactose, and stir and stir, possibly mechanically until the colour is uniform throughout, taking care to not allow any moisture to wet the product.

5) keep stirring until there are no lumps, and you are happy that there is even distribution of the substance. (the die should help indicate this, you might have to try different dies powerful enough to turn the rest of the glucose/ lactose powder at least a tinge of the original colour.


Dos this seem plausible? Have i missed anything obvious here?

The result would be a 1gram= 1mg powder. pretty easy to dose there i think.

Thanks for your time and comments

 

[Shambles]

Doubt it would work too well for something so potent - there's just no way you could realistically distribute it evenly enough cos you just couldn't see such small variations in it. Would be too hit and miss for me to attempt. I'd just stick with liquid measurement as it's far simpler and already does the job fine. Suspect your method would be better than eyeballing pure powder though, for sure.

 

[nearjat]

I've been told that this is not a reliable method of dilution (especially with such a high potency) unless you have some sort of laboratory tool that can mechanically distribute everything evenly...

 

[Jabberwocky]

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[x7Mx]

As an addict I blew through 700mg of this shit in about 2 months. My mental state is very fragile now to say the least. Phen wasn't even the greatest benzo, but to an addict hey, cheap prices, mail delivery, too good to be true right? I'm paying the price for that mentality now. I just wanted to put a drop in the ocean about how it might not be a great idea for an addict to have possession of this shit.

 

[EricABlair]

Got my Phenazepam through today, seems quite subtle so far but having to dose with a needle so being very very cautious. It has had wonderful effects on my anxiety though, feel anxiety free for the first time in living memory! Slight mussel relaxation and general well being seem to be the most pronounced effects.

 

[HdoubleODeezy]

They won't be anywhere near accurate enough to weigh Phenazepam dosages though, you'd still need to put it in a solution

I got my mg scale off ebay and its plenty accurate enough.. just figured i'd put it out there.

Just +/- 1mg.. and thats accurate enough to me cuz i have a tolerance and an extra mg wont hurt me

 

[stiltzkin]

Liquid dosing is the way to go. You can have your local pharmacy order PG for you if you can't get it anywhere else. It should dissolve totally if the product is pure. This can take a while at room temperature, so putting your jar or container in a warm water bath can speed things up considerably.

The actual weight you receive might be off by a certain amount, but you need a lab scale to properly weigh it out and it's a better idea than licking your pinky or whatever. The potency by weight and long half-life makes it unforgiving to eyeball it. There's a large thread on another forum full of people who have gone on week-long blackouts and done very bad things by trying to guess their dosage. Diazepam powder is more forgiving in this respect, but I still gave mine away after getting way too crazy on wet finger licks.

 

[EricABlair]

Liquid dosing is the way to go. You can have your local pharmacy order PG for you if you can't get it anywhere else. It should dissolve totally if the product is pure. This can take a while at room temperature, so putting your jar or container in a warm water bath can speed things up considerably.

The actual weight you receive might be off by a certain amount, but you need a lab scale to properly weigh it out and it's a better idea than licking your pinky or whatever. The potency by weight and long half-life makes it unforgiving to eyeball it. There's a large thread on another forum full of people who have gone on week-long blackouts and done very bad things by trying to guess their dosage. Diazepam powder is more forgiving in this respect, but I still gave mine away after getting way too crazy on wet finger licks.

AS for the UK its not really possible to get PG as I understand it. My needle licks went fine by the way, just had to massively under-dose and repeat a lot. Not that I would recommend this method as its not accurate and you need to be rather anal/careful.

 

[Pegasus]

Yes, from my own experience before it was scheduled, it is very soluble in propylene glycol.

Just don't put all of the powder into the bottle and shake, pour about 10% of the pg you intend to use into a glass, add the powder and stir until it is completely dissolved. Then add the mixture back into the bottle of pg.

If you have 1 g phenazepam and 1 liter PG, the mixture becomes 1 mg/ml, so the doses are really easy to measure.

Can anyone else comment on this method? Just mixing up all the ingredient in a small amount of the PG first, then mixing that into the larger volume of PG? Once that is done, will simply stirring make the result uniform?

Also, any comments on the 50% PG versus 99%?

 

[Bob Loblaw]

You might want to stir the soln a little before using it, but once the Phenz'pam is dissolved it will be homogenous. But I really don't see why you wouldn't just put the solute in all the solvent.

IDK how freely soluble it is in PG, but 99% is what I would go with.


PG is perfectly safe for this, though if one is storing soln for a long time, benzyl alcohol and some other things should be added.

 

[Pegasus]

^I knew you'd be helpful! I think the USP 99% PG is surely the best option now that I see how available it is... What do you think of this statement, though:

This product is 99.9% Propylene Glycol that has repackaged into a smaller container from a larger Propylene Glycol USP container. Although, the product has been packaged in a new, clean unused container, it should not be used in applications that require FDA and/or USP requirements.

 

[Bob Loblaw]

I wouldn't worry about it unless you plan on making claims that your shit is 99.x% pure .

 

[juddweiser]

I wonder if Phenazepam is freely soluble in Polysorbate 80.

 

[agram]

I accidentally came across some Phenazepam a friend had here in the UK. He had some ridiculously good scales (he's a chemist) and I actually found it quite a decent Benzo. With reasonable dosage, of course. I've tried about eight or more different benzos in the past, and this was actually nice. Wasn't that noticable coming on, but to me it seemed like a long lasting Alprazolam with more hypnotic effects the second day, and more sedative effects after the dose. The idiocy and amnesia weren't really noticable with a normal dosage. From what I recall, I think I had 3mg, which was enough considering my current tolerance. Wouldn't take any more than 1.5 with no tolerance.

All of the horror stories I hear are from people eyeballing doses, and taking far too much. Treat it with respect, and it's fine. That's why it's still a prescription drug in some ex-soviet bloc countries! I'd imagine it would be better to use for alcoholism than Diazepam. I'd not consider it especially recreational. I'd love to know the motabolites, as the 60 hour half life seems to be a bit... Short? For the effects felt. Minor effects still felt quite a bit after 60 hours.

Because it feels so subtle coming on, I think many people foolishly redose, thinking that it's had no effect. Treat it well, and it'll treat you well.

 

[Pegasus]

^Yeah I would certainly be careful with this. I have blacked out from benzos in the past and don't intend for it to happen again! I'm a lot different now though... I prefer small doses to large ones now, so I think I'd be alright. I hope so, anyways!