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Benzos The Big Phenazepam Throw Together Pt. I

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How in the hell do you guys dose this shit out? I mean I haven't looked at therapeutic doses for phenazepam in general, but I know that most benzos are down in the 1-2 range and some 10-30 but say you are buying a gram of the shit, isn't there quite a bit of room for error? I don't imagine all of you are rich enough to buy scales that measure milligrams eithers so how is it done? Seems like there is a lot of room to develop a very very large benzodiazepine addiction. Please somebody tell me how one doses themselves properly when buying this type of thing.
 
100 ml PG/ 1 mg phenazepam sound way to dillute to me. Youd have to drink gallons of PG over time. IMO 1mg/ml or 2mg/ml is just perfect. Can easyli be measured with a syringe or small beaker.
 
Does anyone know how many mg of phenazepam you can get dissolved into 1ml propylene glycol? I read the first 5 pages of this thread and searched the net but cant find it.
 
^I got 4mg/ml in my last experiment helping a friend prepare some a while ago, and this was with 4:1 or 5:1 PG to ethanol to help sterilize... I'm not sure about higher concentrations than that, but I am curious. It did take a fair amount of time to dissolve this time compared with the trials with lesser concentrations...

I should note that I now believe much of the stuff that has been going around as 99.x% pure to actually be less pure, like closer to 70%, so this certainly changes things. Hopefully, someone will get me some true lab results from all of the suppliers so that I know which are cut and which are pure. This raises another question about the solubility: Would 70% phenazepam still become a uniform solution in PG even with another 30% of whatever cut floating around in the solution? My impression is yes, especially if you don't try to get the concentration way up, but I'd like to know others' thoughts on this...
 
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100ml PG / 1mg phenazepam is absolutely too diluted. You want probably 1-2mg/ ml for the most practical application... 4mg/ml is the highest I would go for conventional, oral dosing purposes, just because it will get hard to measure out doses with volumes that small...
 
damn.. i only have 50ml propylene glycol and am gonna be getting another 500mg phenazepam in a few days and i usually just use my mg scale but i wanna try liquid dosing this time, but maybe i wont. But i was hoping to get the 500mg into the 50ml to make it 10mg/ml and dose using a regular syringe and 10units would be 1mg. but i doubt it will work out for me, and if i try and it doesn't fully dissolve i will be left with a mess.
 
HdoubleODeezy said:
damn.. i only have 50ml propylene glycol and am gonna be getting another 500mg phenazepam in a few days and i usually just use my mg scale but i wanna try liquid dosing this time, but maybe i wont. But i was hoping to get the 500mg into the 50ml to make it 10mg/ml and dose using a regular syringe and 10units would be 1mg. but i doubt it will work out for me, and if i try and it doesn't fully dissolve i will be left with a mess.
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Any reason you cant just get some more propylene glycol? Its cheap and readily available on the internet, including on a popular auction site.-DG
 
BollWeevil said:
I should note that I now believe much of the stuff that has been going around as 99.x% pure to actually be less pure, like closer to 70%, so this certainly changes things. Hopefully, someone will get me some true lab results from all of the suppliers so that I know which are cut and which are pure. This raises another question about the solubility: Would 70% phenazepam still become a uniform solution in PG even with another 30% of whatever cut floating around in the solution? My impression is yes, especially if you don't try to get the concentration way up, but I'd like to know others' thoughts on this...
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I just ordered a gram and after ordered apparently found out the phen was only around 70% pure, I'm not sure something shady is going on with the main consumer suppliers. or if what they bought in bulk just was not pure. And also if it is just cut or this is an impurity from manufacturing that could be causing negative effects? cause this is my first time with it and it feels just slightly off to me, like I got kind of dizzy the day I took a lot, that could just be my suboxone too though along with the lethargic nature of the drug. Oh well more info on this purity issue is appreciated

But besides that I have some basic thoughts/experiences/questions that I would like some input on(I have always had a decent little natural tolerance compared to a typical benzo noob, probably because I actually have anxiety so I can handle larger amounts). Ok so I was just doing small dips every once in a while when i first got it because after the first very small dip I could tell it wasn't as pure as they said or just not as strong as made out to be.

Well it was taking my anxiety away but I wanted to see what a small buzz would feel like so I took about 3 more dips after the first one which I would guess was around 6-10mg(possibly more, again it was eyeballed)(of the 70% pure phen,so around 4.2-7mg ). I slept well and woke up in the morning feeling way benzod out you know the feeling, I first dosed on the thursday and all day friday and saturday I was benzod out, it wasn't enjoyable really other then killing my anxietyI was just way to lethargic I couldn't do much of anything other then lay in bed, I just couldn't concentrate and had no motivation but I did stop at a friends house once or twice for a couple hours. I didn't feel good enough to do anything til saturday night and completely normal on sunday.

I was also wondering about a weird effect when I was laying in bed, when I would close my eyes I would start to have these "dreams"(kind of like nodding out on opiates) which were like ideas about whatever I was thinking about when I closed my eyes but would just keep getting weirder and hazier and then I would open my eyes and realize they weren't making any sense, sometimes I would get pissed because I thought I had a great idea about something I had to do or something and try to remember it. It was really weird haha and this was on friday the day after I dosed which was when I felt the most intoxicated.

Sorry for the long post here are the cliff notes for people who didnt read.

- It takes long to kick in and is just a lethargic unintersting effect, so I ended up dosing more and didn't realize how messed up I was till I woke up the next day. If xanax is 10 on a recreation scale phen is a 1 or 2, and dosing more just makes you more lethargic

-anyone else get weird "dreams" similar to nodding out? I found it really weird at the time because I never have got that off benzos, only off opiates a couple times

My overall thoughts on this benzo is there is no point in taking large amounts looking for a buzz or anything like that it is too sedating and not euphoric at all, but taking small doses of 1-2mg are great for controlling anxiety and can work for 2 days at a time as long as you don't ruin your tolerance.
 
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^It sounds like you took too much. Even if it was 70% pure, then 3-4mg is going to be a pretty good dose...
 
daddysgone said:
Any reason you cant just get some more propylene glycol? Its cheap and readily available on the internet, including on a popular auction site.-DG
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i could get more, it's just money is kinda tight right now.. but i might not have any choice. unless i decide to keep using my scale like i have been doing. maybe ill just put 100mg in the 50ml and make 2mg/ml solution. and then weigh out the rest.
 
^You could probably do twice that for now... 200mg in 50ml PG, or at least 150mg/ 50ml... That is a decent amount of phenazepam to carry you over, surely! ;)
 
makaveli777 said:
How in the hell do you guys dose this shit out? I mean I haven't looked at therapeutic doses for phenazepam in general, but I know that most benzos are down in the 1-2 range and some 10-30 but say you are buying a gram of the shit, isn't there quite a bit of room for error? I don't imagine all of you are rich enough to buy scales that measure milligrams eithers so how is it done? Seems like there is a lot of room to develop a very very large benzodiazepine addiction. Please somebody tell me how one doses themselves properly when buying this type of thing.
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You don't have to be rich to buy a milligram scale, I bought a digital diamond scale for 17 dollars with free shipping from China on eBay, it measures from 0,001 g (1mg) to 20g. Works just fine, although I don't use it for phenazepam. Just do a quick search and you'll find it, highly recommended! Easier than the PG method, and it lasts forever (well, long enough ;-) ) !
 
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