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The Big & Dandy Worst Psychedelics thread

IAmJacksUserName said:
I've never tried it, but datura is the only psychedelic that I'm truly terrified to try.
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Ive only found the balls to smoke the leaves... effects were threshold but rather pleasant, mild sedation with a dreamy feeling but not enough for hallucinations...


Salvia... yea it will take you to another world very fucking efficiently, but your probably not going to enjoy the ride or get a lot out of it...
 
5-MeO-DiPT.

Thankfully I've never tried 5-MeO-AMT, otherwise I bet that would be it. Interestingly, I thought that 5-MeO-MiPT was wonderful. What a difference those 2 carbons make.

If we consider salvia to be a psychedelic, then it takes the cake. It has virtually no effect on me (even highly purified extract with a very high salvinorin A content) and it tastes like anus.
 
I used to love psychedelics but something killed it for me. I know acid isnt the worst nor are mushies. so far I think DOC has been the worst due tohow long it took for me to come down and it ended up feeling a bit gross.

The only psych's id do again would be 2C-B, 2C-T-7, 2C-I(maybe), 2C-E, mushies and id like to try DMT but I wouldnt do any others again and I have no real desire to try any more except for DMT. LSD is fun but it gets old. I dont consider K a psychedelic but that shit is great. If you consider DXM to be psychedelic then that is the worst.

Good luck to those who enjoy them but my personal opinion is they suck and they make me more depressed than E or even meth in moderate amounts. I dont know what killed it, I think theyre just fake and boring now.
 
If dissociatives are counted as psychedelics, DXM. A few hours of barfing like a sick dog while being mentally retarded ain't my cup of tea.

Otherwise, 2C-B. It really shallow, even at 30 mg orally and a redose of 5 - 10 mg insufflated. Gave me colorful rainbows for almost a year though, so I'm pretty sure I wasn't dosing too low ;)

I don't consider MDMA psychedelic, otherwise it'ld be MDMA for it's notorious crash.
 
Clearly the people who have tried/hated shrooms I bet hated LSD more...

I have done shrooms and fucking loved them and never had a bad trip while LSD was just terribly intense with 3-2 tabs twice.

But also half the people in this thread have never tried PCP or are too scared too. That is beyond the worst psychedelic I have ever tried next to LSD. You will feel beyond messed up.
 
chicpoena said:
Psilocybin is the worst psychedelic for ME, but I wouldn't say it is the "worst psychedelic" overall. In fact, I don't think I could ever definitively say a certain psych was the "worst" because they all have their own purposes and uses. Even bad trips can be positive in the long run.

My body and mind just don't get along with mushrooms, period.
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Same. I love psychedelics overall, but shrooms just screw with me too much
 
I don't consider MDMA to be in any way psychedelic, so I overlooked it when picking my choice of 5-MeO-DiPT. If we were to consider MDMA as a psychedelic, then (in terms of physiological effects) it takes the cake. It is certainly not healthy for the body--it gives rise to toxic thioether metabolites and is a pro-oxidant compound--hence it should be used infrequently and in conjunction with antioxidant neuroprotectants. Compare the tryptamines--which have little if any risk of physiological toxicity--and particularly the ergoloids, which are actually neurotrophic and neuroprotective and MDMA starts to look like a pretty shitty alternative pharmacology-wise.
 
^^^What can I take in conjunction with MDMA to curb the neurotoxicity? Another tryptamine? That is a great reason to! Some vitamin supplement? something easy to acquire?

Salvia is my least favorite/worst. 2C-E I wouldn't say is my worst, just difficult. Not a funfun material.
 
yep, as much as I hate to echo what everyone else says... 5-meo-AMT is probably the psychedelic I got the least out of... had the most body load and uncomfortable and *not going anywhere* feelings I have ever had.

A stiff dose of DOB many years ago, was absolutely hellish in some ways, but it really changed me... and was very powerful and it can't be written off.

5-meo-AMT can be written off though, and for most everyone, there is going to be something better to take than this stuff!


Julian.
 
Riemann Zeta said:
I don't consider MDMA to be in any way psychedelic, so I overlooked it when picking my choice of 5-MeO-DiPT. If we were to consider MDMA as a psychedelic, then (in terms of physiological effects) it takes the cake. It is certainly not healthy for the body--it gives rise to toxic thioether metabolites and is a pro-oxidant compound--hence it should be used infrequently and in conjunction with antioxidant neuroprotectants. Compare the tryptamines--which have little if any risk of physiological toxicity--and particularly the ergoloids, which are actually neurotrophic and neuroprotective and MDMA starts to look like a pretty shitty alternative pharmacology-wise.
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The thread is more about which psychedelic drugs are more likely to give you a bad trip / negative experience. (Ones that were later looked at as a learnin curve count)..

MDMA is lovely leave it alone :p MDMA has been known to have a massively positive affect on a persons life when used properly, and fair do's.. it can have a massively negative on a persons life when misused / abused.. This isn't a thread about what drug fucks you up quickest if you abuse it.. I would have gone royaly nuts if i had used LSD as i used MDMA.. but i'm just fine thank you ;)
 
Poll please mods:

LSD
Mushrooms (Psilocybe)
5-Meo-AMT
DOx
2c-X

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Someone help me out here.. i havn't slept :(
 
jamaica0535 said:
pretty sure the fungus that causes that does not grow on any typical source of LSA...
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but the typical sources of LSAs, like ergot, contain LSAs, some of which have pronouned vasoconstrictive properties. sure, the more dangerous are present in higher concentrations in ergot than in hbwr and mg, but still some are present and even the LSAs that make you trip constrict your arteries. i'd be very careful with dosage of anything containing LSAs, especially since they are a nature product where you never know the exact composition of alkaloids and dose you're getting.
 
I can see that a number of people chose 5-MeO-AMT as the worst. While I will admit that it is likely to cause nausea, has a heavy body load, and makes it difficult to sleep, I have had several fun and notable experiences on 5-MeO-AMT. I think expectations, setting, and social circle have a lot to do with this though.

My personal worsts were LSA and DXM. However, my bad DXM experience was due to a former friend overdosing me, and I later enjoyed using DXM at lighter doses many times.
 
For me it has to be salivia. Most people I know who have done it would agree. It's not that it can't be euphoric, it just rarely is. Usually it is a frightening experience.
 
^^^What can I take in conjunction with MDMA to curb the neurotoxicity? Another tryptamine? That is a great reason to! Some vitamin supplement? something easy to acquire?
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I'll second the vote for (R)-alpha-lipoic acid and selenium and then add acetyl-(l)-carnitine, resveratrol and melatonin (when you start to come down). That mix should be an excellent antitoxicity oxidant-squelching cocktail.

Tryptamines (any good 5-HT2a agonist) and ergoloids (e.g. LSD) don't particularly alter MDMAergic oxidant toxicity, but they do attenuate ketamine's neurotoxic potential.
 
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