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The Big & Dandy Worst Psychedelics thread

Pentazocine - acts at same receptor as salvinorin A (among others), so I suppose sort of on the fringe of being psychedelic - any drug that results in you getting lost in your own house merely because you turned through 180' has to be pretty ugly for most



Pentazocine ? I have that down as an opioid of sorts... kinda feels nice to me at low doses (2-3x therapeutic dose) but didn't strike me as in any way psychedelic. I once felt VERY bad on it, that's whan I mixed it with too much beer and K. I think it doesn't mix well with other downers, particularly K. That day I was nauseous and very very dizzy . . . but it wasn't psychedelic, bar for what the k was doing to me, perhaps.
 
Yeah it's an opiate and i quite like it. mix it with some antihistamines for extra visual effect ;)

It's not a psychedelic..
 
Salvia seems to be somewhat well-hated from what I understand. I'm not sure I've actually ever heard of anyone I know enjoying a salvia trip. Some people I know find them valuable experiences to have, but still not something to be enjoyed.

It makes me sad to see so many people hating on DXM. I love me some dex. I actually didn't find out how disliked it was by the majority of trippers until after I'd been using it and enjoying it for a while. I have trouble seeing why people hate it so much, as it almost always puts me in a good emotional state. Not exactly euphoric, but certainly not dysphoric. Though, I've also never experienced the stomach problems that it seems to cause in a lot of people.
 
Agreed... I hate MDMA. AMT is similar in nature but is tremendously better. MDMA feels so fake and forced, and the aftermath is sickening. And its method of neurotoxicity has been established at this point. It's not quite as bad for you as meth, but it's not good.
I know that drugs affect everyone differently, but I find it strange that so many people consider MDMA so fake. In my experience, MDMA has been realer to me than traditional psychedelics even. Psychedelics make me feel like there is some great purpose or meaning of existence, but once I come down it is quite obvious to me again that I have to find my own meaning in life. On the other hand, MDMA makes me content and just strips away all of the social barriers people have. It doesn't make me "love everyone," when I think about the various bad people in life that have wronged me, I might feel sorry for them but I don't become convinced that they are good people in any way. Additionally, I haven't experienced anything close to a negative comedown, in fact the first two times I tried it I had a fantastic day-long afterglow. Though I have been using only pure mdma powder, and have only had a total of four experiences spread out over the past year. I get the feeling the majority of mdma's negative effects come from impure product (pills) or abusing the drug (e.g. taking it more often than once every four weeks).
 
any kind of deliriant! and hbwr seeds for me were just a waste of time and k(i had to get a vial of k after the main effect of the hbwr seeds kicked in, it was to vile and nauseating)

oh....but the mother of all hel is pma
 
I've had some interesting experiences with HWBR, definately a worthwhile psychedelic for me. Though a few times it was nothing but awful nausea for me as well.

My vote for worst psychedelic would go to 5-MeO-AMT, for it's utterly toxic feeling. Otherwise, I think most psychedelics are worthwhile for one reason or another. I haven't tried any deliriants, but I wouldn't classify them as psychedelic anyway.
 
I know that drugs affect everyone differently, but I find it strange that so many people consider MDMA so fake. In my experience, MDMA has been realer to me than traditional psychedelics even. Psychedelics make me feel like there is some great purpose or meaning of existence, but once I come down it is quite obvious to me again that I have to find my own meaning in life. On the other hand, MDMA makes me content and just strips away all of the social barriers people have. It doesn't make me "love everyone," when I think about the various bad people in life that have wronged me, I might feel sorry for them but I don't become convinced that they are good people in any way. Additionally, I haven't experienced anything close to a negative comedown, in fact the first two times I tried it I had a fantastic day-long afterglow. Though I have been using only pure mdma powder, and have only had a total of four experiences spread out over the past year. I get the feeling the majority of mdma's negative effects come from impure product (pills) or abusing the drug (e.g. taking it more often than once every four weeks).

Agreed, every word of it. I used to think MDMA was inauthentic but I most definitely retract that. I don't feel like I "love everyone" on it either. Like you it provides me with a calm and content state of contemplation. It opens me up and allows me to accept myself for who I am in a very down to earth way.

I used to get nasty hangovers but that was from "highish" doses and being very stimulated. When I take MDMA just relaxing and contemplating things it doesn't give me a hangover.

The bolded text I really agree with. I find high dose LSD experiences just so "over the top" and forced. After I come down I realize that a lot of it was delusion and life is still the same. I like LSD at doses under 200ug though, just the high doses are too pushy, same with really high doses of MDMA I guess. Low doses of anything I find more authentic; you come to your own realizations.

I'm actually riding a bit of an afterglow right now. :) anon, you should try dosing a 2C at t+3 or later in an MDMA experience, it extends it, smooths the ride down to baseline and helps integrate what you learned into normal consciousness it's really great.

EDIT: I must add that "pushyness" is sometimes required to force yourself to deal with a surfacing problem. I find mushrooms the pushiest drug I have ever done, but also it's spiritual worth is unmatched, but I never do mushrooms and expect to feel good except on the afterglow after solving a deeply seated problem. Mushrooms for me are the ultimate non-recreational drug.
 
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Nutmeg, my little brother and his friends are always messing about with that stuff. It just looks horrible, have never been bothered with it myself.
 
I don't know, it seems to me that perhaps we're approaching this thread in the wrong way.

Of course different substances will give different effects, but it seems to me the experience is more likely going to be affected in a positive or negative light depending on that old mantra "Set and Setting".

I've had pleasant experiences on psychedelics which I've never been able to repeat, similarly, I've had many terrible experiences that were complete one off flukes.

I mean, the OP says that mushrooms and LSD give euphoria and pleasant hallucinations, but of course we all know these can, and DO do just the opposite if we're not mentally prepared.


If all you wanted was "least favourite psychedelic" kinda thing, then I guess I'd probably go with Diphenhydramine Hydrochloride at the moment. That shit can get messed up.
$0.02
 
Bromo-Dragonfly. Way too speedy and long lasting. Fun only if there's some big festival going on that keeps you busy for 40 hours. Feels toxic and gives a feverish comedown. The psychedelic effects aren't worth the experience IMO.

Morning glory seeds. They make me sick even with an extraction. But I love HBWR-seeds.

Ayahuasca. Haven't managed to cook a strong enough brew. Mostly vomiting, a natural feeling high and some nice visual distortions.

Yopo. Feels like ground glass and chili going through your nasal cavities. The effects I've managed to get are worthless.
 
PMA is one of the reasons I believe MDMA should be legal. If it were, PMA and it's ilk wouldn't exist nor have any reason to.
 
I have never taken a "true" psychedelic that I wouldn't like. Maybe IV DPT but still I'd probably like it on another ROA.

If we include deliriants and such, then my vote goes for cyclizine.
 
DOC, the jump in dosage from 6mg to 8mg is a doozy, it was a good thing I had enough hash and seroquel. not fun

I had a VERY overwhelming experience on my last trial with DOC. My idiot friend fucked up the dilution so instead of 7mg, we each got 10.5. I slept for almost 6 hours during the trip, not expecting to still wake up to cascading waves of visual patterning. About 40 hours later we finally came down. Do your own dilutions;)
 
didn't read the whole thread, but has anyone seen that HellRaiser movie? i can't remember which one it was, but there were these kids trapped in coffins buried underground with a pipe that allowed them to breathe, and they were basically all under this huge fearful trip from some drug
 
Datura, people still take it, though i dont see much positive in it.
curiosity killed the cat

i'll definitely try datura... when there are no cops, knives or high buildings around
 
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