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The Big & Dandy Synthetic Cannabinoids Thread

Which synthetic cannabinoid do you like or prefer?

  • JWH-018

    Votes: 89 50.0%

  • JWH-073

    Votes: 30 16.9%

  • JWH-133

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • JWH-200

    Votes: 2 1.1%

  • JWH-250

    Votes: 28 15.7%

  • CP-47,497

    Votes: 3 1.7%

  • CP-55,940

    Votes: 8 4.5%

  • HU-210

    Votes: 5 2.8%

  • HU-211

    Votes: 1 0.6%

  • WIN 55,212-2

    Votes: 7 3.9%

  • AM-2201

    Votes: 5 2.8%
  • Total voters
    178
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an update to this... Ive been notified from the vendor that all they will release is that it is a proprietairy blend of several different variations of the win series. im not aware of many other win series, in fact win 55,212 is the only one im aware of. So they are taking one thing weve heard of, mixing it with several other things we havent heard of or if we have they wont tell us (proprietary), advertising it with a thc molecule and calling it legal in all 50 states? If im not mistaken, if you market something as THC, such as displaying the thc molecule as the molecule picture for a certain substance, wouldnt that be completely illegal under the drug laws? You can still catch a case if you advertise something as MDMA and then sell them vitamins. I guess we'll see.

update:
an email from the vendor:
Yes mostly made up of Win 55,212-2 with another win compound we will offer more info in the near future, I am waiting on my tech guy to finish writing it, as soon as possible we will offer a more detailed descritpion.
 
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WIN is not a series of drugs, it is just the old sterling winthrop prefix code for any experimental drug, for example JWH 200 was originally coded with a WIN code as sterling winthrop invented it. just like saying the CP series, they are just pfizers prefix code for experimental drugs, and most CP prefixed drugs are not cannabinoids.


the whole WIN FX thing sounds very dodgy indeed, hey just eat this shit and wait for my tech guy to work out what it is. great.
 
Winfx report

Hey so i decided to take one for the team and try it out since I received it in the mail.

The Package arrived on time as usual. The one thing i can say about this vendor is they have fast shipping and haven't let me down so far so I figured I would give them the benefit of the doubt. The power was pinkish brownish color similar to that of heroin or certain manufactures of anhydrous methamphetamine. Having had all the strains of jwh I can tell it isn't part of the series as those powers are all whitish.

0:00 I loaded a small pinch of powder around 10-20mg which is the same i would smoke if were jwh. The power leaved brown puddles similar to meth when burnt. It smoked easier out of the d then the jwh chemical... roll nicely.

0:15 I have reached feels good man status, the kind of feeling of a good stone. More mental then the jwh series, less body stone. Very little cottonmouth and was bored so decided to hope on bluelight and leave a post... will keep updating for length. Definitely a cannabinoid.

30: sorry im a stoner and forgot to edit... obviously im very high at this point... really really high actually... got some munchies and shit went out for breakfast

1:00 Ate a bunch of food... not high anymore... It is very short lasting... All in all first experience was good for a free sample... I wouldn't pay for it as i felt it had an even shorter effect time then jwh but it did get me ripped.
 
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just wanted to throw my experience with ORAL DOSING of the JWH compounds, as very little consistent information is available on the interwebs

120mg of JWH-018
120mg of JWH-081

Both of the fine slightly off-white powders were combined with 1/3 cup (~80ml) of heated extra virgin coconut oil. This oil was selected because it is almost entirely saturated fat, and the idea is the body sends saturated fats directly to the liver for metabolization into energy, so any drugs dissolved in the fats will be quickly put into the bloodstream instead of hanging around in the GI tract.

The powders dispersed evenly into the oil, although they did not completely dissolve. small flecks were noted, but they were very evenly distributed.
1/3 cup (80ml) water and one egg was added to the oil following the instructions on a box of store-bought brownie mix. The batter was stirred to homogenize, then poured into 12 (twelve) standard-sized muffin paper-lined cups.

These brownie cupcakes were baked for the recommended time, and the chef decided to lick the bowl clean, approx 1/4 cupcake's worth of batter was remaining. as the brownies finished baking, the chef noted that there was definitely a powerful stone developing, and he probably made the brownies FAR too strong.

240mg total JWH (50/50 of 018 & 081) in TWELVE cupcakes
gives 20mg approx per cupcake

most people on the web say 5-10mg is a good oral dose, so one quarter to one half of a cupcake is a good dose. I can only assume that a full cupcake would end in disastrous overdose.

NEXT EXPERIMENT:
chocolate truffles containing 5mg JWH combination in them!
olive oil tincture!
once a standardized olive oil tincture is developed (one dropperful = 5mg)...
jwh spaghetti
jwh caesar salad
jwh steak
and the list goes on
 
with no information as to wether it is the R + isomer or the mesylate salt. , do you think its possible that they are selling the racemate containing both the R and S isomers and claiming it to to be a "proprietary compound"? It's more then one of the win's, probably the racemate of 55212-2 and 55212-3 ((S)-(-)-WIN 55,212) which is described as a low potency CB2 receptor silent antagonist and CB1 receptor partial inverse agonist. Competitively antagonizes effects of CP 55,940 (pA2 = 6.1) and SR 144528 (pEC50 = 5.3) at CB2 receptors and acts as a partial inverse agonist at CB1 receptors (pIC50 = 5.5). isnt win 55212-2 a cb1 and cb2 agonist? Wouldnt these tend to cancel each other out? I know very little of chemistry so most of this is jibberish to me. how would win 55212-2 be different if it were the R or S isomer? If its the mesylate salt it should be able to be taken orally/intransally as it is water soluble correct? What if its the R+ isomer or the racemate. Im lost
 
Waitings a bitch...

I just recently ordered some JWH-073 and can't wait for it to arrive. I have been researching these chemicals for the past 2 months and am excited about the potential of these synthetics. I am beginning to feel a bit of the "Disneyland Effect" while waiting for the product IE sleeplessness, impatience, and easy excitation:!. I will post my experiences with these substances as soon as I get a chance to try them.
 
The psycadelic side of JWH-018

I almost posted this in the cannabis section since it is, afterall, a synthetic cannibinoid, but I would like the bias of the answer to be from experienced PD users.
I've read various reports on JWH-018 that ended up saying it was like a psycadelic. If this is true, then the fact it is a synthetic cannibinoid makes it the perfect pd since my tripps are often ruined by my anxieties caused by thinking time goes by too quickly.
 
JWH-018 and friends are only 'psychedelic' in higher doses. and unfortunately the number one side effect of JWH 'overdose' is severe anxiety like a cannabis white-out (low blood pressure, seeing stars, cannot stand without severe nausea, etc). of course the psychedelic effects are not really comparable to 5HT2a agonists, but thery can be fun for someone who has a very strong cannabis tolerance/alliance to withstand the massive dose.
 
when i take it orally i get visuals, and smile hardcore till it hurts

018 is totally psychedelic, its my favorite JWH so far

smoke some on the peak of an oral dose, wowzers....
 
one time I smoked way too much, and a 60 watt bulb brightened to at least a 120 watt.
after that I could not focus on the tv, everything was swirring around. About 20 minutes of not being able to comprehend anything I was watching, a thought popped in my head....

"i'm learning" I was watching the History Channel lol
 
I'm not sure I find JWH-018 to be 'psychedelic'. It can induce a 'psychedelic trance' like state at high doses, where you can't move or think, but the visuals seem to be white noisy and not complex patterning like with a serotonergic. Fuzziness, sparkles, tunnel vision, colors swirling, etc.
 
I've had some pretty intense experiences with it. One time I had an OBE of sorts. I felt my sense of self hovering above where I was laying, but I wasn't looking down at myself, but instead was right up against the ceiling and unable to move...eventually I gelled back together a bit, stumbled to the shower and put myself under cold water for a while until the panic reaction part of it settled down...this was from one of the K-2 blends and I was entirely unready for it to happen. Never expected it. I thought I was in danger of dying at the moment...there was a definite moment too when I snapped fully back into myself and I kept saying to myself, "omg I'm back, I'm fucking back". Was very relieved to be back too lol

Other times I get sorta what coolio just described, where I sorta get the 3rd eye wacky cam visuals, but fuzzed out a bit. I find it easy to drift off into day dream scenarios in my 3rd eye vision when I am really stoned from it too. I guess I would call that psychedelic to an extent...

One thing I've taken to doing whenever I am smoking jwh-xxx without any actual pot is to smoke it with yarrow. JWH-018 always felt amazingly close to a weed high, but was missing the weed hug, the medicinal aspect. It never settled my stomach and never took away a headache, things which I have come to rely on weed to help me with often. But, one day I decided to try smoking it with some yarrow, as I had smoked yarrow previously and found it to have some similarities to weed, one of them being the sense of calm it brought my stomach area, along with stimulated appetite. Smoking yarrow + jwh-018 makes the experience so much more like smoking actual weed, and I use less jwh because the yarrow most definitely potentiates the experience for me. It's prob not gonna be for everyone cause smoking yarrow can be a bit harsh for those not accustomed to it. But, it's definitely something I will continue to do when I run out of weed and am filling in the void with jwh-xxx, and I feel it boosts the experience enough to bring in more CEVs and clarity to them.
 
Wow, JWH-018 is analgesic and anti-emetic to a degree no strain of cannabis can match. It's better than heroin for pain for me, and nothing gives me the munchies more.
 
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