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The Big & Dandy Seizures & Blackouts on Psychedelics Thread

LittlebyLittle said:
I've never had a seizure outside of this experience.
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Seizures can occur from drugs, I've had it happen before. It doesn't have to be a normal thing whatsoever. Some people go their entire lives without having a seizure until they get high. It doesn't have to be the first time or one of the first few times either.

You don't even have to be particularly susceptible to it. It doesn't even have to be part of your family history. It can just happen.
 
It's possible this was a seizure, and if you're concerned I highly recommend getting it checked out, however, out of interest, how much experience do you have with ego loss? My first time experiencing ego loss I only experienced the first few minutes of it, and then just seemingly "woke up" several hours later, remembering who I was and where I was - I had not slept or anything, but there is a huge 5 or 6 hour gap in my memory - which I assume I spent laying there/rolling around as I did before my ego was lost. Subsequent trips with ego loss I've remembered more/most of the experience, but I just thought it was worth mentioning because it might just be that.
 
clonazepam, an anti-seizure medication.......?
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He is obviously already prone to seizures if he is already prescribed clonazepam... So I don't think it's the psychs that gave you a seizure... I mean, you had to have had a history of seizures in order to get on clonazepam for seizures?
 
Clonazepam can be given for more than just anti-siezure. It's given pretty frequently for anxiety around here...

If you're on it for seizure control, you should stay away from psyches and other drugs that lower seizure threshold, because you're clearly susceptible to seizures.

Also, if you normally take a sizable dose of clonazepam daily, and skipped a dose, that can cause seizures in and of itself (or at least significantly lower seizure threshold - depending on how much clonazepam you're taking - you can't just stop taking clonazepam)
 
TheAzo said:
Clonazepam can be given for more than just anti-siezure. It's given pretty frequently for anxiety around here...
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Bingo. I knew about the seizure threshold thing from reading about taking tramadol. I was like, "Oh, cool. I'm safe to take big ass doses of tramadol b/c I'm on a medication that increases my seizure threshold so I won't seize the fuck up during my high."

So, yea. I mean it's like this: I have no history of seizures. I don't take medication for seizures. NEVER had a seizure. I'm afraid that my Dr. is gonna take away my klonpin b/c of this seizure even though i'm pretty sure that K-pins don't cause seizures.
 
i have done this with shrooms twice and once with 2C-T-7 . both times it felt the world was going way too fast, panic, and then boom, out like a light, smashing around, when i wake up in my own pool of sweat i am fine :\ never had experience like that outside of tripping .. fine with other things. weird, cause i love mushrooms, and psychedelics in general =D
 
I had a seizure on 26mg of 4-AcO-DMT, really really loved the material up until that point and have been scared to use it again since.

Is it wise to be dosing this chem again, can it be directly related to the 4-AcO, I believe I was hydrated and had a meal that day and was having probably the most euphoric trip of my life.

The seizure itself wasnt actually that frightening, one second I was fine then the next it just felt like something in my head was changing, in fact I just thought that the trip was getting randomly REALLY intense so there wasnt any anxiety as I thought I was gonna breakthrough or something. Then all the scenery around me got sucked in towards me, felt very similar to a k-hole, crazy visuals and sound distortion and completely unaware of my body which was apparantly shaking violently yet very rigid, this lasted about 2 mins then I just became a dead weight and the ambulance was called.

I regained consciousness a minute or two later and stood right up and ran in the house, I felt fine apart from the fact my whole left arm was numb for about 10 mins after, anybody know what no feeling in the left arm usually means from a medical point of view, is it related to the heart?

Ambulance said all my blood pressure and everything else was fine so I choose not to go to hospital.

So my question is how dangerous are these seizures? can they be fatal? what causes them? and should i be avoiding 4-AcO-DMT and mushrooms completely from now on just incase?

After the seizure I felt great as well which kinda makes me unsure what to make of it, the doctors tell me to avoid at all costs and I can perma brain damage myself throuhg seizures, what are the chances of this perma damage happening, for the record I am much more frightened of panic attacks than a seizure, is this ill informed tho? Should I be more fearfull of seizures, are they a bad thing?

Anyway im kinda rambling here, hope it makes sense and someone can help me out, I want to go shrooming again sometime soon but am worried about it happening again, as it scared the absolute shit out of the people around me at the time and I dont want to put anyone through that again tbh.

Anyways responses much appreciated, peace out! :)
 
mandarda said:
No ones probably listening now but I thought I might add that I have pretty bad epilepsy. If I miss a dose of my meds I usually have a grand mal. I am on trileptal, gabapentin and lamictal. I have done mushrooms and LSD a number of times. Each time I have taken the psychedelic in the morning after and only after a good sleep, along with my medications, fish oil and 15mg of valium. If during the trip I start getting an aura I will take more valium. I have never had a problem. So if anyone is worried about having a seizure just take valium with your trip, it will stop most seizures if you don't have a resistance to it and it doesn't take away from a trip, just softens it. Take care.
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Very interesting. I'm on a fairly low dose of tegretol. I haven't done any drugs or gotten drunk since I was prescribed btw.
 
So I took only 2 grams and was having a real fun time, smoked a couple bowls and was really feeling amazing. My 3 friends and I wanted to go for a walk, so we went out side and lit up a cigarette. After a couple of drags everything went dark and I passed out. I woke up a couple seconds later to my friends asking me if I was ok but before I could answer (because I was in fear from passing out) I passed out again. after a couple more seconds I woke up and Freaked out because I didn't know why I had passed out. I began a very bad trip, became very pale and started sweating very bad. I then went and layed in my bed the rest of the night. I just want to know why I passed out. I hadn't eaten anything that day either. Is that the problem>?
 
My friend took around 30mgs 4-aco-dmt and ended being externally unresponsive for hours. It was really scary-- you could shake her, probably hit her, and she did nothing. Just sat there staring blankly out into space. At one point me and another person had to shove her into the back seat of my car because she literally wouldn't get in herself. That experience nearly gave me a mental breakdown 8(

Turns out she "thought she was dead and was waiting to be reborn." It still blows my mind.
 
^ yeah 4acodmt doesn't do that to everyone, seemingly only a small portion like 20%, but I too react badly to 4-aco-dmt, exactly like this... more than 20mg and I feel everything shutting down, like I am being pulled into a whirlpool of black oil, and I go totally unconscious and catatonic for 2-3 hours, having ZERO visuals or any other experiences, just totally useless unconsciousness.
 
Also there's a couple closely related threads to this one, about blacking or whiting out on acid or other trips, though not specifically on shrooms...

http://www.bluelight.ru/vb/threads/557700-Blacking-Out.?

Here was my post to ^that, which contains a pointer to the thread on "Whiting out". Still freaks me out, like I now have "a hole in my mind" kinda like Captain Sheridan in the amazing Bablyon 5 TV science fiction series... weird weird weird. Sorry about the length but the detail may be revealing to some.


see also: Whited Out On Cid http://www.bluelight.ru/vb/showthread.php?p=9342646

my contribution:

NOTE: By "whiting out" I mean that literally... everything got brighter and brighter and brighter as if my pupils had expanded to infinite dimensions... anyway here is the story.. it left a "Hole In My Mind" (kinda like Commander Sheridan in Babylon 5, haha) that I still remember as if it was yesterday:

Once about 15 years ago, me and 2 other friends did 2 hits of what turned out to be some super duper STRONG blotter LSD. Started listening to tunes (well and fooling around... all of us gay) and "whatnot" and all was bliss. But at some point, I recall "whiting out", and my memory is then a TOTAL black hole for about like 4 hours.

After being catatonic for a spell, I totally ruined their trip and fun by them not knowing what the hell happened to me, and I or my body "came to", was walking around the house naked, grabbing my crotch, acting extremely creepily lewd and rude and gross. etc., apparently totally unable to understand or speak English, Terry finally forced me to eat a bunch of Niacin which really did snap me out of it after it hit my stomach. I never did remember even one moment of these hours between the white out and the forced niacin in the kitchen.

The blacking out and reverting to some still "awake" but totally unrecorded "reptilian" robotic behavior circuitry sounds very very similar to a few other accounts I have read, some from shrooms, some from 4-aco-dmt. It was totally like my human mind was removed from my body and my brain stem alone was in some nasty, primitive mode of control. It seems like this bizarre dysfunctional brain "mode" has been reported in some form or another here and there.

During this entire time I had ONE very deep and very frightening psychedelic experience, which consisted of ONE image that apparently took up the entire 4 hour-blackout, or maybe it took the entire 4 hours to "reach" it... and it was VERY VERY scary... hold onto your hats people... NEVER told this to anyone online... during this "White-Blackout", here is where "I" was:

It was some indeterminable time in the future.... only 3 minds still existed... mine (wondering if I had died in perhaps a nuclear explosion or something), and what I can ONLY describe as some great powerful Native American "Grandmother Earth Goddess" consciousness, perhaps "Gaia"... we were both in orbit in space... there was the Sun off in the distance, looking normal, who was the 3rd consciousness (but like a giant silent eye, observing from from some very lofty deep billion-year old great-great-great-great-grandfather perspective, totally without any thought or emotion), in the distance, stars... and below us was The Earth, but it was not the lovely shimmering blue/white/brown/green living water paradise we know. INSTEAD IT WAS AN EMPTY SMOLDERING BLACK CINDER... "Gaia" or "Grandmother Earth Goddess" was VERY VERY VERY ANGRY with ME, as a representative of the entire Human race who had somehow caused this horrible catastrophe to happen to her beautiful precious pearl she had take so long and such care to grow. The mood was one of baleful, eternal mourning and sadness. She was as angry as it is possible to be. I was as sad as it is possible to be.. and just crying, crying for all of eternity, trying to say to Her "I'm so sorry.... I'm so sorry... I'm so sorry...." trying in vain to apologize on behalf of all humanity, of which my spirit was apparently the last representative.

I would have to call this under any definition a "Vision" like something of which Black Elk might have spoken, more than a hallucination... it was like "She" had deliberately stolen my mind, seeing it was made vulnerable by the LSD, and whisked me to some distant possible future to confront me about the disaster she showed me.

Honestly, I don't have any other way of understanding what happened to me that night. it was VERY VERY far out of the ordinary, totally unlike the 1000 or so other trips I have had, some also really strong, but NOTHING like that.

I didn't remember this until a couple days later... it was buried under alot of embarrassment about my brainstem's shameful lizard behavior... then suddenly all at once the image/feelings of that terrifying, soul-crushing "Vision" came back to me like a recovered memory all at once, and I was utterly devastated for a LONG time till I could tell anyone else, before I could even speak... upon remembering it, I just curled up in a ball for a while and just bawled my eyes out.

So,what you do you all think of that? Anyone ever have anything like this, either the whiteout/blackout/missing-time effect, or the walking/talking/behaving with ZERO memory of it, or the "Earth-Cinder-Angry-Sad-Earth-Mother-Goddess-Spirit" vision happen to them?

What the hell actually happened to me so many years ago?​
 
Second time i did shrooms i was at a festival Evolve<3 and bought 2 ounces and ate 3 of the biggest caps from one bag and probly some more, i was standing by my friend ashton and i was like "Man i dont feel so good." he was like "Dont puke!" then my vision started fillin in with black circles and i fucking dropped! had some weird dream while i was out for a minute or 2 and then came to with all my friends crouched around me. The worst part was once i came too i wasnt high anymore :(
 
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