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The Big & Dandy Salvia Thread - Second iteration

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Yeah, salvia is known to be more intense than anything else you can have, including any dose of LSD. The short duration helps, but during that duration it can seem like an eternity and you'll be removed from any sort of recognizable reality at all and probably not even remember who you are.
 
Salvia isnt really the greatest drug in my opinion . Ive probably smoked salvia a couple 100 times over the past few years and honestly not one of those trips stand out to me as something i should remember . LSD on the other hand is the complete opposite even though I been using this compound for about 10 years or so every few months ill have a trip where i totally change my view and outlook on everything. If you going to be using either of the drugs id choose acid .
 
I definitely prefer LSD as well. I'm just saying that salvia is more intense in terms of how much it displacesd reality and immerses you into an overwhelming experience.
 
Salvia is nothing like LSD.... completely different substances, that affects completly different receptors in the brain...

Salvia is intense in the fact that reality goes bye bye and your thrown into a whole new world...

Acid is intense in that reality and your perception of it warps, your still in visual touch with reality but things move, shift, and form patterns...There is a large mental aspect to it as well, time slows down and your thoughts speed up to a degree you probably never thought possible.... you can close your eyes and just think for what seems like hours only to open your eyes and see that a couple of minutes have passed.... Confusion on LSD is kind of how you look at it, my first trip i felt like i had the answers to everything, a bit of megalomania... but i also could not remember what sanity even was, but i knew that whatever it was it would be back by sunrise so i just stopped worrying about my state of mind and enjoyed it...

As for the amount of control, you have more with LSD than Salvia, but all in all its best just relax and let go...

After its all said and done expect a few things, assuming you have a good trip, after some food and sleep expect to feel that life is good. If your have a powerful first trip and you probably will given its your first time and you have no idea what it is, even a small dose will be powerful, your probably going to be a little bit mind fucked by the whole experience. With me i said hardly anything for the next 3 days after my trip, i was shaken and had to piece everything together. Its interesting when someone ask how was your trip and words don't exist to describe it...

Acid is my favorite drug, it was my first psych and i can say my first acid trip was the most amazing experience of my life. I highly recommend it, find a friend and do 2 each. 1 will probably get you a decent enough experience but in the end your probably going to be thinking "i wish i had done more"...
 
I thought because I was a very experienced Acid man, that Salvia would be a piece of piss :\. Ouch! 8o

So you're doing it the right way round. If you can handle a Salvia breakthrough, anything up to a medium dose of Acid should be fine. In fact it will most probably be fun. In fact might even be the most amazing experience of your life in taken in the right circumstances =D=D=D.

Indeed, I hope it is :).
 
Shambles said:
I've never known a psyche (or any other drug) as intense as salvia. Salvia is interesting, but a long way from recreational or enjoyable. LSD is so much more mellow - recreational, enjoyable, spititual - whatever you choose to take from it. It's a whole other world. LSD is fun, salvia is hard work. Obviously LSD can be a headfuck too in the wrong situation, but salvia is almost always a headfuck in any situation :D.
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aye aye......

To the OP,
LSD can and has driven some people seriously fucking bonkers insain, in a very dark, very fucked up way. But for the majority of people that have used LSD (and as with any psychedelic, in the right context..."a chill set/setting, mindset, etc"), it has been a true life changing, life affirming sacrament from the gods...one of the gods being good ole' Mr. Hoffman.
Salvia on the other hand...seriously, imo...only serious fucking "way up in the mountains in the middle of nowhere" mexican shamans should be using it.
 
Like others have said salvia and LSD are quite different.
For me salvia comes on too strong too fast, one moment your hitting it the next EVERYTHING is different. It takes a lot to prepare for that.

LSD eases you into it, it builds up at what I would say is a comfortable and reasonable pace.
LSD is quite enjoyable with an excellent duration. Just be smart about it and things will work out.

Set and setting.
 
Salvia and LSD are very different. For example, Salvia can be disturbing because it's very intense and comes quick, but I never wanted a Salvia trip to end. In fact, the higher I am with salvia, the less I understand what's going on. Sometimes I smoke Salvia and after a couple of minutes I realize I smoked Salvia but I don't remember tripping at all, like sometimes I wake up not remembering my dreams. LSD isn't that intense and quick, but the trip is long. Time is a factor, or at least for me. I had acid trips which I wanted to end.
 
hpi said:
Drop the cid man you should be fine.

Salvia is WAY more intense then LSD by a long shot. I'm talking about once your broken into Salvia Space though. That's when it's fucken INTENSE!
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Right, I don't wanna sound stupid, but is salvia space somewhere in the sky?
I only ask because I once had a mega intense salvia trip (so intense I can't remember lots).
I do however remember floating back down into my body after going somewhere in the sky.....
 
^Salviaspace is anywhere salvia takes you upon ingesting her- be it the nearest window for some life as an object, or off into the distant past, when humans had snake-heads.

LSD and salvia do not compare at al. In terms of pure intensity, which I think of as rapidity of effects, immersion, complete replacement of normal reality; LSD has very few of these effects. It can still be unimaginably powerful, just nothing like salvia.

To answer your question; a low dose of LSD will be childsplay COMPARED to salvia. Still fraught with its own 'dangers' of course.
 
Cornishman said:
Right, I don't wanna sound stupid, but is salvia space somewhere in the sky?
I only ask because I once had a mega intense salvia trip (so intense I can't remember lots).
I do however remember floating back down into my body after going somewhere in the sky.....
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salvia space is anywhere you are not actually....

your in your bedroom, take a hit of salvia.... your now in an abyss, or experiencing what final judgment would be like if it was a televised game show....
 
jamaica0535 said:
salvia space is anywhere you are not actually....

your in your bedroom, take a hit of salvia.... your now in an abyss, or experiencing what final judgment would be like if it was a televised game show....
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Hahaha, a televised game show. that definetly reminds me of a trip I had one time.

It felt like I was the fool and everyone was to see!
 
I love salvia!

The first time i did it, it was freaky. But i loved how it took me out of this world...in my mind literally. The only experience with salvia that i havent read here, i did it all day once and after a few hours when i would do it, i wouldnt leave this world at all. Everything just looked started looking cool.

Acid by far is better...one main reason for me is because it last alot longer. I just like the effect salvia did to me (at first) because thats the effect i was told in school that acid would do.
 
The only drug I've done that is more intense than salvia is DMT. And they are actually pretty similar in my book except that DMT is way better.

Acid is the shit. If you take one dose/tab/whatever it will most assuredly be less intense than a salvia trip.
 
swilow said:
^Salviaspace is anywhere salvia takes you upon ingesting her- be it the nearest window for some life as an object, or off into the distant past, when humans had snake-heads.

LSD and salvia do not compare at al. In terms of pure intensity, which I think of as rapidity of effects, immersion, complete replacement of normal reality; LSD has very few of these effects. It can still be unimaginably powerful, just nothing like salvia.

To answer your question; a low dose of LSD will be childsplay COMPARED to salvia. Still fraught with its own 'dangers' of course.
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Ah yes, I understand now.
A friend of mine became a spoke in a bicycle wheel before.
I guess everyones salvia space is different. :D
 
my first salvia trip, I was apples on a tree, lookin down at the interested looking faces of my friends, while trying to shake off the tree. Man it was scary ass fuck.. this was nighttime to in the middle a park. I guess i tried to run, but couldnt control my legs, so my body sway from side to side looking where to run. lol
 
I just had my first breakthrough experience with salvia, and first real experience of being 100% completely out of control.

Words cannot describe.

I am in the process of writing a trip report for all of you to enjoy.
 
Light bulb vap + salvia = ?

ive searched online, cant find a solid answer.

would it be possible to vaporize salvia extract (lets say 20x) with a home-made light bulb (100 watt) vaporizer?

if so, what could one expect?
 
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