Sprinklervibes said:
I'm just saying, you shouldn't dismiss a chemical just because you read bad things about it, otherwise you should've dismissed LSA too. !
No, not at all. In the first place, I “got into” morning glory seeds in 1992. There were no internet postings, so all I had to go on was that morning glory has a long, long, long, long, long, long history of use as a psychedelic along-side mushrooms in that part of the world. Its flowers decorate countless statuettes, temples, and decorations both past and present in Central America. It has been studied, the active principles are known, and the long-term effects seem non-existent. There were no first-hand accounts except H. Osmond’s experience with R. Corymbosa in his apartment…which was quite positive.
Everything about your analogy still is silly because
none of those things can be said for mCPP or the other phenylpiperazines. And even with chemicals I’ve used that do not have a long history (the 2C family for instance), at least there is a few decades of documented usage behind some of them….And many have been examined in animal life. Again, the same cannot be said of mCCP and its counterparts.
I don’t need to take mCCP to judge the fact that there are a lot of unknowns that make me uncomfortable. At least with the 2Cs and psilocin relatives….people could definitively say…yeah this drug is a psychedelic along the lines of psilocin. People don’t even know what to classify mCCP as…it’s not exactly an empatheogen, not exactly a psychedelic or stimulant.
Many psychedelics produce unpleasant physical side-effects in the beginning. Actually, as far as the “organic” ones….most of them do….not a single report on peyote, iboga, or ayahuasca fails to mention nausea, vomiting, and other fun calamities. This is a far cry from a series of drugs best known for being de-wormers…with ZERO human data. If you can’t see a difference between these factors, I’d spend more time re-evaluating what you put into your body.
If you like it, I’m glad you have a new ally. I’ll pass.