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The Big & Dandy Psychedelic Art/Poetry Thread

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a doodle (click to enlarge):

cherry_flavored_buddha_by_spencerm.png
 
I don't see anything psyche-d.
oh, I get it! nothingness is so psychedelic
I'm trippin ballZ
(yes, I should be shot)
 
^^ that second drawing s fucking awesome.

i am currently working on mushroom induced art . and (4 aco dmt) art...
soon to come!
 
I wrote a communicative post here, but I'm deleting it because it's too communicative
nonsense is just funner
and so I stay silent
> Good work psychedelicious!
Keep the factory making airplanes! Make sure no (or some) rhinos stomp on the wings!
 
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willow11 said:
^^^Um, no he didn't work in the MK Ultra program sorry. Dr Leary was many stupid things; just not that.


8) Um:
"I like the CIA!" he [Leary] said. "The game they're playing is better than the FBI. Better than the Saigon police. Better than Franco's police. Better than the Israeli police. They're a thousand times better than the KGB. So it comes down to: who are you going to work for? The Yankees or the Dodgers?"
..."Yes," he answered strongly. "I was a witting agent of the CIA, but, I'm not a willing agent of Nixon! I did everything in my power to throw out Nixon!" (So, it would appear, did the CIA.)
- http://www.mindcontrolforums.com/hambone/tlcia.html
 
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cognosis said:
8) Um:
"I like the CIA!" he [Leary] said. "The game they're playing is better than the FBI. Better than the Saigon police. Better than Franco's police. Better than the Israeli police. They're a thousand times better than the KGB. So it comes down to: who are you going to work for? The Yankees or the Dodgers?"
..."Yes," he answered strongly. "I was a witting agent of the CIA, but, I'm not a willing agent of Nixon! I did everything in my power to throw out Nixon!" (So, it would appear, did the CIA.)
- http://www.mindcontrolforums.com/hambone/tlcia.html

That document is incredibly baised for starters, and if you read between the lines, as well as other things on Learys time at Milbrook, you'd know that his circle was infiltrated by CIA agents, just like every powerful political group during the sixties- I believe thats what he means when he say:

"Yes," he answered strongly. "I was a witting agent of the CIA, but, I'm not a willing agent of Nixon! I did everything in my power to throw out Nixon!" (So, it would appear, did the CIA.)

"I'm a witting agent in that I think Roosevelt was a disaster, but historically necessary.... So, pin me down and I'll tell you exactly what I'm doing for the CIA," he said.

then this:

He drifted off into a monologue talking about neurological cosmology, his outer space connections. Again I brought the conversation back to the central question again :" What year did you start working for the CIA?"

"Well, I never worked in the sense that nobody ever came to me and said would you work for the CIA..."

"Nobody recruited you?" I asked.

"No, nobody ever recruited me. People came and advised me to do this or that. I didn't know that I was being advised by the CIA. I assume now, that I was being advised by the CIA..."

"But a moment ago you did say that you knew at the time. You said that you were wittingly working for the CIA..."


Timothy Leary was one of the biggest liars all time; yes, its true that he did work with drug agency's in the 70's, but I've never heard much to say that he was actively working with the CIA. A rcent biography by Robert Greenfield is sctahing in its acount of Learys life; but never mentions any CIA connection, besides the fact that CIA agents were most certainly involved with his group, 'undercover'. I don't think that document is particularly damning to be honest, though I could be mistaken.
 
ive never read of Leary doing that, and I don't believe it. He defeinitely a political ninny and a bit of a fool, but he didn't do anything overtly evil (like test on unwitting people with acid, like that crazy Canadian doctor)
 
willow11 said:
That document is incredibly baised for starters, and if you read between the lines, as well as other things on Learys time at Milbrook, you'd know that his circle was infiltrated by CIA agents, just like every powerful political group during the sixties- I believe thats what he means when he say:

What I'm saying, by Leary being involved with the CIA/MK Ultra, was not to imply that he was blatantly working for the CIA( although, there is anecdotal evidence to suggest this). You can believe whatever you'd like on that matter. However, I sincerely believe a lot of the work he did was used by the CIA. Whether he was conscious or not of what his experiments were being used for and who was using them. He was nevertheless complicit in a lot of government shit.

~We now have so much information about the psycho*pharmacological activity of LSD and its effects due to all the governments and Learys research. I think its possible that the CIA leaked LSD to the public --much in the same way they introduced crack into black communities in the '80s, and when leaking LSD they used Leary as their propaganda/publicity front man getting people to believe they were "dropping out".

IMHO, drugs can be really relevant in a personal self development context but aren't revolutionary/counter-cultural in a social context. In a social context you're just dropping out and creating a parallel competitive culture, not trying to change the one you're dissatisfied with. I think the CIA used Leary to defuse the hippie movement after they discovered that LSD couldn't be used for mind control.
 
^^^I like the theory, but I'd say, from what I've read on the guy, that he was more being used by the CIA. And I'm not sure how Leary defused the hippie situation as you put it; I think he was hounded and charged for minor things as a way of taking down a very misguided leader, but I don't believe he actively overthrew the ideals of the times. I also don't think he truly ever believed them also, but thats a seperate issue. Anyway, that link was an interesting read, as obnoxious as Leary is, he is still quite interesting in his own way. :)
 
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