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Dissociatives The Big & Dandy PCP Thread

How is that slang? That's just calling a drug by something it's not.

"that firehydrant is blue"
"no, it's red..."
"no dude it's slang." 8)
 
It is pretty silly, I mean the only similarities between the two (mescaline and PCP) are their duration. They can also both produce deep visions that can be hard to discern from reality while under the influence. But the mechanism in which it happens is totally different, ie. the psychedelic dissolution of the ego and consensus reality vs. PCP's dissociation. I really think that if called by the proper name and used appropriately, phencyclidine can be a useful tool.

There's one report on Erowid that mentions this phenomenon:

http://www.erowid.org/experiences/exp.php?ID=13798

It's worth noting that it's mostly the Hells Angels and other biker gangs that are involved in the manufacture and distribution of PCP in Quebec. This in particular makes me a very sad panda :( : "Montreal Canada is an easy place to acquire the drug, where it is called 'MESC' by the French. There are plenty of teenage prostitutes in montreal doing tricks to get their mesc and their crack."
 
That's one of the better PCP reports I've read. Sounds like how I imagine it to be and fits with my small experience of 3-MeO-PCP pretty well too. Except there's no mention of euphoria which I also associate (without experience) with PCP and know (with experience) is there in spades with 3-MeO-PCP. I still have an itch that needs scratching...
 
I was also told how they don't put it on herb like kind bud or even mids but they'll put it on schwag or Mex brickweed or really shitty herb.


I've also heard of people putting PCP on other herbal leaves like stuff that isn't even pot.

around my way on shitty weed with the seeds called love boat....on oregano was called green. we used to roll a lighter over the j to crush the soaked seeds, and you could see the water soaking through the paper. ill shit.
 
doesnt anyone listen to scarface ? the reason so many ghetoo places and shit only have pcp because thats what gangs smoke when there gonna shoot someone.
 
So, I managed to get my self a fry stick. I've always wanted to try getting wet. But now that I have this ugly, brown, stained, phencyclidine dipped cigarette in my hands, I look at it, and then I chicken out.

I know that the chances of going batshit insane are quite small. (and I've gone on some hard core tweek binges, which can also lead to batshit insanity)

But for some reason, I cant muster up that "I think rangrz is a pretty cool guy. Eh smokes PCP and doesnt afraid of anything" attitude and just spark it up.

for one thing, I dont really know what a decent starter dose is. Can anyone suggest this to me? How many puffs? I've done Ketamine via injection, and done DXM. So I know the Disassocitive feeling/experience.

can anyone give me some good PCP stories(good as in enjoyable, and not invovling murdering your girlfriend with a rake and wearing her skin around) and a sugggested to dosage to get my courage up?


Unless you know the drugs concentration in the liquid you cannot calculate dosage.
One of the many risks of unpure, street PCP.
A good method would be to start small and build your way up, treat it as any other new drug.
 
if you wanna try it out but wanna take it real slow then take no more then 1 or 2 puffs. then on another day go from there.
 
PCP- Your Thought's and Stories?

Just wanted to know if anyone else has any encounters to share with the liquid form phencyclidine. I myself will tell you this.
I have not touched it since sometime early 2009, somewhat because of availability and for it's bad qualities.
I first tried it in a little green $30 bottle, around here there were $20's and $30's with colors of green amber and clear. The $30's were the economical choice with almost 2x the $20's amount of what we call Water in my town. I have smoked good quality stuff somewhere from 3-5 times, and the bunk stuff 2 or 3 times.
The high is unlike anything i can describe, smoking the dip tastes like spraypaint and a bunch of chemicals mixed together at first, but after a few times i gained a acquired taste to it. Somewhere in between halfway through the cig i will start feeling a little faded, major distortion and way fucked up perception, time perception my first time was more then i have ever experienced in my life. PCP is one of the weirdest drugs and to a non user of it sounds probably plain weird as fuck. It gives me a feeling of where my brain is in the sky with my body doing things on earth but almost in another world type of feeling. Sorry if this is long but i am interested to see what other's say.
 
PCP is my favorite dissociative, although when i used it i used it less than dxm and ketamine. i haven't used it since 07 though because of lack of access (although i haven't really looked.) there's not much of it around in MA. the interesting thing about pcp compared to dxm and k is dust sometimes got me hyped up like i was on coke along with the dissociation.

i always had a blast, there was one time i had a "incredible hulk/COPS episode" pcp experience though.
i was at a necro (the rapper) show at the middle east in boston. i had drank a full pint of vodka to the face and then went outside and smoked a dip. i got incredibly high as pcp always gets me and shortly after i blacked out and woke up in a psych ward.
my friend who was there told me i was running around in circles yelling "i love pcp" and punching myself in the face, and throwing elbows here and there and people. then i went outside and sat down in the middle of the street stopping traffic. a cop picked me up and took me to the hospital.

i blame the mix of vodka and dust for the incident, pcp alone never made me wig out.
 
This is what i don't get, i never get any crazy feeling's and am more fucked up. however drinking even a few beers or shots while high of a stick would have me in a stuck high all day almost..
It was also my favorite dissociative, i have never tried ketamine but dxm gives me a way weaker feeling of how PCP gets me.
 
dude the shit is insane to me. it makes me feel connected to mother earth and shit. Its like this to me pcp is like a wooden roller coaster dxm is like a water slide (like blizard beach in florida) and ketamine is the metal roller coasters.


and they all involve a "hole" or stuck whatever
 
Weird, i never tried ketamine but yea dxm is like the trycycle of pcp the unicyclce bad spelling lol
 
I've merged your thread into the Big and Dandy PCP thread, as it's really just sharing of PCP information. Please check the Psychedelic Index if you've got general questions or comments about a substance as opposed to a specific, directed question, to see if a thread already exists, to save on forum clutter. :)

Thanks for sharing though. :)
 
What are the long term side effects you've noticed from using PCP?

well, my black dealer who did it for a few months straight would sometimes sleep for days straight.. super slow impairment and it fucks your memory up and eye sight. its not good to use on a regular basis, and it sucks for you guys who got the bunk water, the good shit is fucking fire.
 
long term effects

somebody asked about the long-term effects of pcp so i wanted to add my experience.

i was addicted to it hardcore for about a year. i was in pretty big denial of its actual "addictive" qualities (in comparison to drugs like cocaine and opiates, i also had problems drugs like that) but i think my denial was part of the addiction itself. it was a drug i used for about 10 years, but only occasionally... i had "loved it" and binged on it as a teenager and then only used it a couple times a year up until about 2 years ago.

at first it was the garden variety things, blackouts, injuries, robberies and assaults that happened when i was under the influence. its the type of drug to very easily push yourself over the edge with because the most common method of consumption is smoking and dosage isn't stable with street-grade pcp. also once you are under the influence of pcp it is the type of drug that makes you crave more, and if you have more you will take more... and when that happens all hell can break loose. while i never fried a baby in cooking oil or cut off somebodies face and wore it as a mask, i was incoherent a lot of the time, often being carted off to the hospital because the cops would find my car stopped in the middle of an intersection, or i would be freaking out somewhere. i got involved with undesirable people, gang members... i did live in a "ghetto" area at the time...

it progressively got worse, as time went on. my mental symptoms declined, because when i was sober things were almost as bad as when i was intoxicated, i was just as irrational and psychotic, just not incoherent. i got into a hit and run accident because i thought i was in a video game and my car could just take some damage and keep going. i thought i was invincible and could drive 90 miles per hour and run stop signs and red lights. i didn't think i was doing anything wrong. they say that pcp causes people to have "schizophrenic like behavior" and its a pretty spot on description because my behavior was definitely crazy....... hallucinations, delusions, completely erratic outbursts. eventually i was spending so much time in a blackout state horrific things began to happen to me, i "came to" in the middle of being raped, i was beaten severely, every single time i walked to the spot to score i wound up being carted off to the hospital in an ambulance, and times i would "escape" the emergency room, often to get high again and get hospitalized again...

the whole thing is, for months and months it was almost like i was in a dreamlike state 24/7 and didn't realize what was going on, it wasn't until after i had stopped using the drug entirely that my mind cleared up and i was able to see all the damage that had been done. by then i had lost my husband, my daughter had been taken away temporarily, i crashed my car, i lost my drivers license, and a number of other life changing things had happened to me. but it didn't even "hit me" until i stopped using the drug.

i sobered up completely but it took months for many of the psychotic symptoms to go away, and some have not completely subsided after 6 months clean.

i am not some inexperienced young idiot either. i'm a 28 year old psych major and i used to have a genius IQ. my brain is pretty much fried now, memory wise... although the brain is a wonderful thing and i am able to form new crystallized intelligence, the leftovers are pretty much mush. i'm all for personal freedom and didn't come to harp on anyone for using pcp - i am actually information gathering - but i wanted to share my own experience because its not a drug to be played with, and the long term effects are serious. severe depression, psychosis, memory loss, thought organization - just to name a few.
 
We just had a guy get shot for selling bunk jars of PCP in my hometown. I've never even seen it before. I seriously doubt I would ever try it. Not enough happy PCP stories to peak my interest.
 
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