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The Big & Dandy N,N-DMT Extraction Thread - Elves are watching

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what is the right amount of naptha for 100g MHRB?
 
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I'm almost ready to do my first DMT extraction. I had been planning to do the Noman extraction, and have everything I need except for VM&P Naphtha. Went to a few big hardware stores but no luck so far. I suspect it's hard to find in Canada (and so far can't find any online Canadian sources either). Any ideas on places that would carry VM&P Naphtha?

I did find a product that is advertised as a glue remover and says "Contains: Xylene" on the back. I don't really want to use Xylene, but if I have to, can I just evaporate a bit of this stuff to check for impurity levels or is that not a good test?
 
^ I might be a little cautious of using a solvent that hasn't been verified to be successful and safe in extractions. Here in the U.S. it's easy to get naphtha sold under the brand name Ronsonol. Evaporates cleanly and has been used successfully for A/B extractions. You don't necessarily need "VM&P" naphtha.
 
Also the product you get by using xylene is a different product you get with aliphatic naphta. It pulls the so-called jungle spice, which contains along with DMT some red colouring, beta-carbolines, mysterious jungle alkaloids and whatnot. You can't freeze precipitate xylene, and it takes a very long time to evaporate. And it stinks.

Check out the cas numbers on your solvent. Then google the cas numbers and you will see what is in the solvent. Anything that has only light aliphatic naphta (it usually says something to the effect of "Naphta, hydrotreated light" or "Petroleum distillate, hydrotreated light" or "Solvent naphta, light aliphatic" on the cas listings) is good for freeze precipitation, and also pulls quite selectively so you get a pure product.
 
So today my 100g of MHRB arrived. Did a STB with 50g using coleman camping "fuel" for a solvent.

Did one pull (gonna do the reast tomorrow) and got some nice white solid (next time will do a defat).

My milligram scales havnt arrived yet but I decided screw it and chucked it all in a pipe on top of a bed of rolling paper ash (to stop the dmt melting through the guaze).

Ive been preparing for this for sometime, so I fired away.

Now when I read reports of dosing by smoking till tripping I thought would be simple enough.

Anyway I cannot put into words what I experienced. When it hit me it hit me strong, so much so I panicked. The body load was intense (I was nearly sick) but the visuals were stunning. So beutifull and detailed (I can see were the hyperspace thing came from).

Fuck knows what the dose was, but the extreme tripping effects had subsided after 4-5min but I was left with a really nice feeling.

Theres not much in the way of euphoria and this is 100% not a "party drug"

It was a positive experience and I cannot wait to see such beutifull visuals again, but I feel almost scared to do it again! It really was like stepping out of reality. But one amazing thing is the total lack of anykind of hangover/negative side effects (athough its deffo harsh on the lungs and tastes disgusting. Ditto on the mothball comparison)

Anyway, I highly recommend it to those who should. I am amazed at how simple and fun the stb was (and was suprised at how well the solvent and sludge mix stayed seperate)

Also, I can see why deffats are recommended.
 
Did my first extraction a week ago (Noman STB), and it was a success. :D

I used 50g of bark just in case I messed something up, but I'd really like to do the rest (1kg of bark) in one shot if possible. Any particular precautions for working with that much bark, or if I have a big enough container I should be ok?

What about when freeze-preciping the naphtha? Does the level naphtha in the container need to be somewhat shallow or does it not matter?
 
Would a wash of the final product with acetone be worthwhile or would this just result in loss of yield?
 
Washing the final product with acetone would result in a large loss of yield (DMT is very soluble in acetone).
 
rootbark questions

Could someone theoretically use a 10% ammonium hydroxide, AKA janitorial strength ammonia, as their basifying agent? I would imagine this would work for an acid base extraction. How about for a straight to base extraction? What about using baking soda? (in an acid base xtraction only, way too weak for straight to base, unless perhaps you boiled your plant matter/water/soda before extracting)

The above questions are in reference to powdered rootbark, and are purely to satisfy my curiosity.
 
straight to base question

If someone lived in a country where they could legally do a dmt extraction and they were doing a straight to base extraction on some rootbark, is it really necessary to measure the PH? Couldn't one theoretically just use a LOT of lye to ensure that all of the alkaloids are converted to freebase, then extract with the solvent?
 
DMT EXTRACTION TEK... Need Feedback

THE DMT TEK

----Materials

One Kilo MHRB powder
Naptha (VMP)
NAOH
water (tap)
Vinegar (for neutralization if neccesary)
Gallon Pickle Jars
Collection Jars

----NOTES
I will be doing a couple of extractions with a 15ml/1g/1g (Water/mhrb powder/lye) formula for the basified liquid. Probably one 50 gram extraction than multiple 100-200 gram extractions for the rest of the powder.
I will follow the normal STB extractions (a lazy mans, but with smaller changes) please give me feedback as this is just my procedure and not done yet. I will then revise my tek again based on feedback and then proceed with the experiment.



***THE EXTRACTION PROCEDURE***

1. I will add the lye to the water in its pre-measured 15ml/1g/1g amounts slowly until all lye is dissolved and the exothermic reaction is no longer producing heat. I will do this in a jar that is best suited for the amt to be extracted.

2. I will cap and shake the jar until all powder is thoroughly mixed and there are no clumps left.

3. I will then heat the basified mixture in a water bath on low heat, just enough to let the naptha mix well with the basified mixture. I will do this by placing metal rings (from mason jars) on the bottom of a pot filled with water and placing the jar on top of the rings. The jar will not touch the bottom of the pot, but will be suspended over the pot atop the rings.

4. I will then add 1ml of Naptha to each 1 gram of bark powder used in the basified liquid.

5. I will then cap the mix after the Naptha is added and turn it end over end until the solvent is thoroughly mixed and I will place the Naptha/Base mix back into the water bath with the cap off to help emulsions settle until there are no emulsions left and there is a definite layer between solvent and base.

6. I will then siphon off the top layer and place in a baking dish or a couple as many pulls as I want from the basified liquid.

--I feel there is no harm with pulling many times. Only Naptha could be wasted but spice can be saved!

7. I will fan evap the baking dishes and scrape and smoke.

My questions

Can crystals made by freeze processes be touched by fingers without dissolving? or should I use a knife blade for transport and measurements? I might freeze evap what are peoples opinions and yield losses/purity gains etc.

Is smoking impurities weather it be jungle, yellow or whatever be bad for you? DMT is pretty much safe by itself because the body can metabolize it easily but can the inhalation of impurity vapors be harmful to you?

Please give me any feedback you think will help me. Thanks again
 
"4. I will then add 1ml of Naptha to each 1 gram of bark powder used in the basified liquid.

5. I will then cap the mix after the Naptha is added and turn it end over end until the solvent is thoroughly mixed and I will place the Naptha/Base mix back into the water bath with the cap off to help emulsions settle until there are no emulsions left and there is a definite layer between solvent and base."

Let the Naptha and basified bark settle until naptha settles out and repeat mixing/settling (1 minute mix and about a minute to settle) 4x per Naptha pull. I do four pulls, mixing and settling with equal amount of naptha. I've done five and not yielded enough for a single dose on the fifth. I do not like heating when I extract unless an emulsion forms, which I have yet to encounter using a similar TEK.

I also prefer freeze precipitation followed by filtration is this an option for you. It's easy, and you can reuse any naptha that presumably has a little DMT in it for your next extraction. Most of the DMT sticks to the jar. It's pretty easy to get this out and place it on a flat piece of glass to allow it to dry. Scrape, dry some more, and prepare for an other worldly experience. Peace.
 
"Can crystals made by freeze processes be touched by fingers without dissolving? or should I use a knife blade for transport and measurements? I might freeze evap what are peoples opinions and yield losses/purity gains etc."

Freeze precipitate, then filter, then scrape with whatever kitchen utensil (I like a long steel spoon) works best for your setup. Good luck!
 
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