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The Big & Dandy Methoxetamine Thread - Hit #12 - Oh look, it's MXE o'clock

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Damn that's cool Expect. I just experienced being a lotus flower...in a previous lifetime maybe?!! But I sort of saw the universe as a life form in its entirety, which just has pieces like you and me which may be experiencing all the possibilities of its conscienceness.
 
Damn that's cool Expect. I just experienced being a lotus flower...in a previous lifetime maybe?!! But I sort of saw the universe as a life form in its entirety, which just has pieces like you and me which may be experiencing all the possibilities of its conscienceness.

Oh my goodness, I've had experiences similar to this. In my high dose MXE trips I experience the consciousness of thousands of different lifeforms simultaneous, and you kind of see the matter of everything as nothing. Man, what a beautiful compound. I feel so refreshed today!
 
I concur with THCfied, Expect, you're fucking yourself up. 7 gr MXE in 2 weeks is WAY too much, hell, 7 grams in 2 YEARS is pushing the boundaries of responsible use (which I regard as up to 200mg per month) You may be causing longterm harm to your brain that may take months to undo, not to mention building a horrible tolerance.

Dont you get sick, using like 500mg per day? I would feel like complete crap in the days after. No bladder issues?

Just some harm reduction advice, not a personal attack.
 
I've been using MXE for 2 years now, and honestly I've had no negative effects from high usage. Obviously it can't be good for me, but it's had no detriment on my daily life, and I still function normally. I certainly don't condone frequent MXE use, but everyone's personal chemistry is different, and I don't see it having any bad effect on me.


That being said, I am going to take a break for a while. I did ALOT of mxe in the last 2 weeks.
 
^I can vouch for that too, I've been doing it nearly consistantly for the past 2 years with little 2 week/month or so breaks hear and there and I can honestly say I've not gotten any side effects that could be considered negative, stuttering while on it or a slight lingering stutter the next day is the only thing I have to complain about. Amounts can range from 50 to 500+mgs throughout the day. Just make sure you stay well hydrated and if you're in public keep it to a minimun, it really is more of an "inside" drug.

Though breaks are always needed, if I feel I've been endulging too much, a 3 week/month long break usually brings me back to where I feel comfortable going at it again. I can understand people with a more hectic daily schedule or set of responsibilities not being able to frequent as much but mxe when used soley by itself seems very benign physically and any lingering mental fog dosent linger for long ime
 
*raises eyebrow* Not even the fairly mild but annoying bowel cramps that often accompany frequent redoses? Being still considerably intoxicated the next day? Sleep disturbances, like waking early after having kicked around the sheets and intense dreams? A mildly upset stomach on the day after?

Taco Bell, after 2 years of being intoxicated most days in the 50-500mg range, what does a single 50mg dose of MXE still do for you? Any loss of magic? How do you take it?
 
I usually insufflate it, occasionally sublingual. There is a definate loss of magic when used everyday but thats the thing about mxe, one day you'll have been redosing into the 200mgs mark going into the 300mg mark and you'll have nothing but the manic wacky stimulant like effects with slight oevs, wiggles, shifting and what not, everything nature and the like having a much prettier glow to it, while the next day or two the first 60mg line you do you slip right into a hole. One day you'll feel like you're chasing clouds then the next day bam you get what you've been looking for, with mxe it seems the holes just come out of no where provided the set and settings right, I think I had commented somewhere earlier in the thread when someone asked something, that mxe can be different every time. But yes there is a definate loss of magic after constant use, then its time to take a break, but over the past two years I've never been not able to recapture it with a 3 week/month break though I wouldnt really recomend the amounts used to people not as framiliar with it, but even when my tolerance has been at its highest even if a do a small 10-15mg bump I'll still get that little rush of euphoria and its anti depressant effects

As for the bowel cramps and stomach disturbances, I suppose every once and a while they may happen but nothing thats ever really bothered me or make me even really taken note of, I usually have a real strong appetite with it, but occasionally forget to eat much, I like to have peanut butter around for that. I actually get the urge to go take a shit during the first dose sometimes. The only thing I have to complain about in that department is that sometimes you get the "I have to pee...I cant pee" thing like you get a wave of unnessecery pee shyness when you're at the toilet for no reason.

Sleeping can be hard, but I've always had sleep problems, any given week use or no use there will be a day or two where I just cant sleep andI'm definatly a night owl. Another thing that varies with mxe is, yea sometimes the next day I feel very intoxicated while other days I'll wake up fresh as a daisy ready to take on the world without much of a difference in doseages.

While mxe by itself to me seems pretty benign, oddly enough weed of all things is what brings out those white knuckle "oh fuck" moments. I'm a pretty regular smoker, but while on mxe my tolerance drops 10 fold, dont get me wrong a small puff of weed here and there goes greatly with mxe, but if you smoke too much or the amount you're used to your heart rate and bp increase alot and I've never been one to get panic attacks just smoking weed. I've never mixed stims or phens with it but pretty much everything else I've done in combination with it has gelled pretty nicely.

But mentally I think back a couple years ago to before I'd ever tried mxe and minus a the few foggy manic days that quickly pass with long long binges I'm pretty much the exact same person I was before I'd tried it, just more open minded though that cant be attributed just to the mxe, other things have definatly played a factor. Dissociatives seem to bring out the best and worst in some people, like a love them or hate them type situation and I love them. But this is all just from my experience, I've read a few horror stories on here, walking off roofs, running around naked down the street ect..Thats why I've found mxe and K are best to do around people who are framiliar with them or by yourelf, and they definatly vibe better with the nightime.
 
Happy to have a go at it again after a 3 week tolerance break. The hypo-manic, pain relief and antidepressant effects are still strong, but I have indeed developed a permatolerance to some of the other effects like visual distortions, wobbles and those classic dissociation effects. Interesting how the therapeutic effects remain, and its more the undesirable effects that have built tolerance to my hardened head. I agree with previous posts about the benign qualities of this drug regarding toxicity even in somewhat high amounts, as long as the user has the tolerance to handle it, and experienced users of 2+ years seem to develop that type of tolerance.
Still a fascinating compound.
 
My main problem with frequent MXE use is that it kind of makes sober life feel relatively cold, lifeless, and boring. The MXE high is too deliciously warm and euphoric.
 
^yeah, that's the thing I found that made it addictive. Once you settle in to that state, it's extremely difficult not to just keep it going pretty much 24/7.

Also, although tolerance can require the dose to be raised regularly, MXE holds up really well to outright abuse. I mean, compared to the diminishing returns of stims or downers, MXE can retain something compelling even after long stretches of use. The effects are best when it's not used too often, IMO, but it quite consistently delivers a mood boost and makes one's body feel comfortable at the least.

So yeah, it's hard to say no to a virtually guaranteed improvement in being.

Having said that, I really don't recommend abusing MXE. There are lots of people here who can tell you about experiences of delusional episodes - me included. Perspective can really get warped.
 
Still able to reach a complete dissociation via IM or IV, but it doesn't last long, 10 or 20 minutes before I snap back into reality. During that divine time, there are these waves where it's like the entirety of my consciousness can collapse into a single unified tone, modulated by this machine-like warbling sound, and even then I can dissociate from that and reflect on it, and integrate it with everything going on around me in local or non-local space, like a hall of mirrors type reflection effect. I've definitely learned a thing or two about consciousness from these experience, and I have my share of delusions too as my free-associations get carried away, but that's part of the fun of it- remember it's all just a ride :-)
 
^yeah, that's the thing I found that made it addictive. Once you settle in to that state, it's extremely difficult not to just keep it going pretty much 24/7.

Also, although tolerance can require the dose to be raised regularly, MXE holds up really well to outright abuse. I mean, compared to the diminishing returns of stims or downers, MXE can retain something compelling even after long stretches of use. The effects are best when it's not used too often, IMO, but it quite consistently delivers a mood boost and makes one's body feel comfortable at the least.

So yeah, it's hard to say no to a virtually guaranteed improvement in being.

Having said that, I really don't recommend abusing MXE. There are lots of people here who can tell you about experiences of delusional episodes - me included. Perspective can really get warped.
If you happen to have a physiology that allows it to tickle your fancies, MXE is the most ridiculously psychologically addictive substance. I say that as someone who once partook in the combination of hydromorphone and mephedrone for a stint and managed to keep it to once a week while I maintained possession of a moderate amount of each. At my worst I've adhered to my "under 100mg during a night" self-imposed doctrine, and when I've taken tolerance breaks the return to MXE has been immeasurably more rewarding than the experience during chronic use, but as you allude to it's difficult not to rationalize something that seems to have so little down side.

But we need to keep in mind the fact that long term chronic use of nearly ANY strongly pharmacologically active compound is likely to have serious repercussions simply because doing so maintains an unnatural balance. Evidence indicates (original source) that chronic abuse of ketamine, a closely related dissociative, results in pre-frontal grey matter reductions, such that the higher the frequency of use, and the longer the duration of use, the greater the reduction in pre-frontal grey matter. This sort of converging evidence points towards the fact that chronic dissociative use and not some other correlative behavior is in fact what's behind these reductions. It could be that simply entering a state of extreme dissociation represents such a state of "brain muscle" under use that it causes atrophy, thus exonerating the drug and making how one decides to prefer to think and feel ("numb" I'm thinking) while using the drug the real culprit behind the brain atrophy in these cases of extreme chronic abuse, but I wouldn't want to have to place my life long mental health on that gamble.
 
have you guys ever done mxe to cure a hangover?

last night I had too many beers and I woke up with a hangover, I did drink lots of water though.
This morning I had breakfast, had some rest and finally a few bumps of mxe insufflated.

It seems to help. Feeling good.
 
^ Hmm... I feel like shit because I took too much drugs. I wonder how I can fix it? ... I know! More drugs!
 
Last night I used some and ended up going through probably over a whole gram... Was amazing but confusing. I've decided to stop using this substance completely for the foreseeable future. I experienced such peace of mind and pure bliss but was mumbling and feeling undeniable psychotic delusions.. The trip I was in was like a dream but it obviously wasn't. Save me the health concerns and such because I fully understand the possible risks but I feel it was a necessary experience in my life and can't change what happened. I look forward to moving on in life and don't recommend doing what I did but will always live with the choices I make and where they take me.. Adios turd nuggets.
 
have you guys ever done mxe to cure a hangover?

last night I had too many beers and I woke up with a hangover, I did drink lots of water though.
This morning I had breakfast, had some rest and finally a few bumps of mxe insufflated.

It seems to help. Feeling good.
Yeah, I agree, ostensibly, with TheAppleCore. All reports that address the issue at all suggest MXE is, like ethanol, a diuretic. It may be relieving the pain of a hangover by some indirect means but it's probably not helping to correct the physiological problem that underlies the symptoms. Drinking more alcohol can help "cure" the acute causes of a hangover for, what I imagine, are similar reasons, but clearly such an approach isn't the right strategy if curing a hangover is all that lies behind your motivations to use MXE. It's like IVing heroin to cure a belly ache -- total overkill. I think everyone realizes this, it's just that the obvious sometimes isn't sufficient to prevent us from believing our own bullshit reasons to use drugs.
 
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Does anyone ever find that they feel empathy and closeness to people the day after mxe use?


My MXE experiences unify me with the Cosmos. They show me that all living beings are infused with the soul of God, that the separateness between others and myself is an illusion. We are fingers of the same hand.

Or in other words, yes. I'm quite empathic as is but MXE helps me to get closer by dissolving barriers.
 
What do you guys think about low-dose MXE for social lubrication? I'm going to see one of my all-time favorite artists in a couple of weeks (Baths <3) and I really want to trip, but I'm going to a fest the week after so I don't want to have any lingering tolerance. So I decided on MXE, but at the same time I don't want to be too dissociated, because I want to be fully present to experience this show.

Recommendations on a dose that will be effective but not too dissociative -- more like being tipsy or mildly drunk I guess?
 
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