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The Big & Dandy Methoxetamine Thread - Hit #12 - Oh look, it's MXE o'clock

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So I'm coming in here to make my first real negative post about MXE, which I have to admit, I never thought I'd end up doing.

I've been a fairly regular user for the past year and a half. I've probably gone through about 10-12 grams during that time. I obtained a new gram this past Tuesday. Now, it's time for finals in my part of the world, so I had a lot of schoolwork to focus on, so I had to tell myself that I wouldn't be taking it freely, that I needed to stay more sober to study. I ended up taking some on Thursday night and had an average experience: pretty much what I expect to come from taking MXE.

Now, I had a piano lesson on Friday and I hadn't made as much progress in the Bach Italian Concerto as my teacher had wanted, so I got a scolding, and I left reassuring myself that I would not take any drugs, especially MXE, until I had the first two movements totally memorized. Unfortunately I wasn't able to keep this promise to myself.

On Saturday, I spent the day and the night with two of my best friends. At around 9:00PM I left to go home and practice the piano. This was my only intention that I can remember. Unfortunately, the next thing that I actually remember was waking up in the hospital. I still have no clear recollection of what happened that night, but here's the gist of what I've been able to recall with the help of others. Sometime around 11:30 I did some amount of MXE. I have to assume that it was quite a bit. I apparently wandered out of my apartment, leaving my cellphone on my bed and my keys and wallet in the front seat of my car. I wandered across Main St, over to our student center. There, I apparently wandered around until I came to a 30ft drop, and then jumped off. I landed directly on my left foot. The force shot up my leg and fractured my pelvis, as well as shattering my ankle in 4 places. It was around 4:00AM when this happened to me. I wasn't found and brought to the hospital until around 8:00. One of my clearest memories of the night is lying on the ground, screaming for help, and hearing some drunk students returning from a party laughing at me.

Thankfully,my emergency hip surgery went extremely well. I've been in recovery for the past 5 days, and have been mostly bed ridden. I'll need ankle surgery in about 2 weeks. If all goes well, I should be able to walk again without pain or a limp in under 3 months.

After this experience, I can never take MXE again. I always knew that it had the potential to cause something like this to happen, but I was always sure that I had the control to keep myself safe when on it. I now know that I never really had that control. I know I would scoff at people who would come in here and share stories like this, telling others never to take MXE again. I thought that stories like these would never apply to me, because I had control. I really hope that some of you do have that control, but I have to believe that it can't be worth the risk. I don't wish that I had never taken MXE, I still enjoyed the times I had on it, but I have to ask all of you to please consider the risks. The pain that this drug has caused me is unimaginable. I don't want to see anyone else suffer like that.

Thanks for listening
Ondine
 
I have some of the off-white grainy batch, which has tested as >99% purity by NMR.

I'm a perfectionist though, and have found it's possible to wash out much of the colouration using methanol, since MXE.HCl is not that soluble in it apparently.


That is a heavy story Ondine. Do you think you relationship with MXE before this was healthy? Approximately how many times per week did you use it?
 
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That is a heavy story Ondine. Do you think you relationship with MXE before this was healthy? Approximately how many times per week did you use it?
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I wouldn't describe my prior relationship with MXE as healthy per se, but it wasn't one that I would describe as negative. I recognized on several occasions that I had a problem with binging. I would only buy single grams at a time, and I would usually only buy a gram every 1-3 months, but when I had that gram, I would use some almost everyday of the week, and would usually get through the whole gram within two weeks, without any significant breaks in usage.

Still, I was comfortable with that because I wasn't buying a gram every two weeks, so I would get fairly long breaks in between my binges.

It was really the sudden lack of control that shocked me; I'd never experienced it like that before. I'd gone into the m-hole before, but it had usually left me fairly immobile. To be able to wander across town and jump of a ledge was something that I never thought I'd be able to accomplish while on enough MXE to disinhibit me enough to actually do something like that. I've toyed with the possibility that it was something like 3-meo-pcp instead, but the bag came sealed and labeled, and the dealer is a trusted friend, who was one of the first people to come visit me in the hospital. He actually vowed that he would never sell me MXE again even if I begged him, which I appreciated more than almost anything else anyone's done for me.
 
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It was really the sudden lack of control that shocked me; I'd never experienced it like that before. I'd gone into the m-hole before, but it had usually left me fairly immobile. To be able to wander across town and jump of a ledge was something that I never thought I'd be able to accomplish while on enough MXE to disinhibit me enough to actually do something like that.
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'Tis one of MXE's big drawbacks and dangers, the ability, even the urge to move while holing... this sure isn't K.
I remember reading about people locking themselves up and hiding the key before binging. May not be so crazy as it seems...

On a sidenote, from experience, take it really slow and easy with that ankle, the months of good care following the injury are crucial and can avoid you years of pain... All the best :)
 
Damn, I'm sorry to hear that Ondine.
Your usage pattern seems like mine only my grams last me less than a week. I'll be sure to have my sober roomies keep an eye on me next time I indulge.
Broke my pelvis and a few bones in my foot back in 98 on a motorcycle (sober), do yourself a favor and get a physical therapist if you can, and then do as they say. I'm fine these days but I have a limp from not stretching properly, because I was a wuss and it hurt. Get well soon.
 
Thanks for the well wishes guys.

I guess the one thing I can recommend to those that still use MXE is to always try and have a trip sitter if you're going to cross into heavier doses (for me that would be upwards of 70mg nasally)
 
What countries is MXE legal in?

Sweetshare said:
Is it possible to create a recreational drug better than MXE? No! Why do it?
I suspect patients with manic-depressive illness it is a particular pleasure. This medicine. Urgent sell in pharmacies!
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This x100! Not even for people with depressions. It's hard to explain but sometimes you don't realize what weight you have been carrying around with you until it is lifted from your shoulders! MXE is what "lifted the weights" for me... and allows me to live my life with eyes unclouded by hate! I have made many changes and bold decisions while on MXE, but when I can't get it, it's like all the work I had achieved has become undone.

Luckily I will have K soon, but to me... K is NOTHING! That's right, NOTHING... in comparison to the godly Methoxetamine. I gift from God himself I am sure of it! Bless thee, who produce this miracle chemical. If only it was easier available.

What countries is MXE legal in? I am very paranoid about getting caught and I think I should move somewhere that I can use openly without fear of police interference.
 
If THC is the sugar when LSD is a cup of fine black tea, then MXE is the milk in it...;)
 
Regarding the dehydration caused by MXE: might something like gatorade be useful, instead of say regular water? especially on high doses it's sometimes a hard task for me to drink enough and i'll end up feeling a bit shitty afterwards, I reckon it's due to the dehydration thing.
 
I'd say just drink enough. Water should be sufficient.

I mean drink whatever you want as an addition, but you can't replace adequate water intake by just drinking some gatorade. Makes sense, does it?
 
Mokeweaver said:
I have made many changes and bold decisions while on MXE, but when I can't get it, it's like all the work I had achieved has become undone.


What countries is MXE legal in? I am very paranoid about getting caught and I think I should move somewhere that I can use openly without fear of police interference.
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You sound like you're giving yourself a big ol' problem down the road. You didn't fix your car if it's broken unless you're holding an screwdriver. Though I will admit navel-gazing, thinking, and self-affirmation on MXE is wonderfully beautiful and fun.
I don't know of any country where _use_ is legal. I don't know of anyplace where if you're caught with a bag of white powder won't lead to a big ol' to do with the cops. Sale is legal-ish in most countries other than the UK, won't be legal for long in the US, as more and more state bans are popping up.
 
THCified said:
I'd say just drink enough. Water should be sufficient.

I mean drink whatever you want as an addition, but you can't replace adequate water intake by just drinking some gatorade. Makes sense, does it?
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Gatorade and other sports drinks are supposed to replenish electrolytes which could be flushed out if you're just drinking plain water.
 
zn13bt said:
Gatorade and other sports drinks are supposed to replenish electrolytes which could be flushed out if you're just drinking plain water.
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Its a pretty complicated thing, why do you think people who are dehydrated receive Pedialyte or water if they can handle drinking. Its a fine balance and gatorade along with water would probably be a fine idea. If you really want to be hydrated for sure, get/drink Pedialyte.If you really care consume small amounts of both gatorade/whatever you choose.
 
Isn't Pedialyte basically the same concept as a sports drink? I.e. an isotonic mixture of salts and sugars in water. Anyways, I think there's less of a risk of dehydration on dissociatives where you're generally not moving around too much than there is on stimulants/MDMA/etc. (Though from what I gather MXE can be different from other ACHs in this respect.)
 
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Isn't Pedialyte basically the same concept as a sports drink? I.e. an isotonic mixture of salts and sugars in water. Anyways, I think there's less of a risk of dehydration on dissociatives where you're generally not moving around too much than there is on stimulants/MDMA/etc. (Though from what I gather MXE can be different from other ACHs in this respect.)
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Yes but its superior in most respects and has more additives. Thats why they give it out in hospitals when someone is really in need of oral fluids. Look it up. It has more than just electrolytes. Either way it shouldn't matter, just drink water. Its not hard. If you forget for a while drink a fair amount.

Excited for the upcoming times, shall be fun!
 
THCified said:
If THC is the sugar when LSD is a cup of fine black tea, then MXE is the milk in it...;)
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I like my black tea plain, though milk goes fine it, something to be said for lemon and honey as well. I mean that literally.

golemgolem said:
won't be legal for long in the US
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It has been prosecuted as an analogue of PCE, so the Feds consider it Schedule I already. Not that they'd bother whipping out the analogue act on someone who isn't selling it. Don't know how that trial turned out, or if it's done or what.

zn13b said:
Isn't Pedialyte basically the same concept as a sports drink
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Yep.
 
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another thing I find fascinating with MXE, does it affect the focus of your eyes?
 
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On a heroic dose... I holed to the point were I was completely coordinated... Whipping out karate kicks in the basement and such... But I had some virtual reality type vision.. It was like affirmation to me that this is all just a simulation that is self-wired... I was contemplating that conscienceness can create a virtual reality where their life forms create everything we see (our virtual reality).. Which is all we may be... Happy trails betches
 
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