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The Big & Dandy Methoxetamine Thread - Hit #12 - Oh look, it's MXE o'clock

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such a pity that this substance at some point stops working completely or at least as you remember it to be.

on MXE alone i cannot hole anymore
i dont have the "30mg nice chill"
i dont feel the body sensoric hallucinations anymore (i liked the twists and shifts most)

i can walk upright on 100mg and have not even the slightest of a cross eye sighting problem. i dont even feel a bit of dissociation. when i started 3 years ago 60-80 was enough to hole massivly and i crawled like charlie chaplin into the bathroom for a pee beyond 50.

i never was a daily user, i did it a lot, i combined it with a lot, but i had weeks and months of breaks during my session.

i just want the good old floating in space sensation back, but i thinkg its gone for ever. my brain learned to overcome the dissociated malfunction i created chemically and now here i am.. should be glad that my adaptive organism overcame a barrier but hate it for that :/
 
I am surprised how well I felt only 20mgs orally that I took a week ago. Even though this stuff is supposed be very high quality I would of still thought the fact that I had been using k every day for a week before that plus that I have been using lots of k and mxe other times recently would of raised my tolerance enough for that dose to be pretty mild. I did notice the duration was a bit shorter though. I think I might take a small oral dose shortly. I wonder how much my tolerance will be affected now that I have been doing k for almost the past 2 weeks although I did take a break from it yesterday.
 
Asante said:
Be careful with dissociative newbies and MXE. I gave my buddy 30mg MXE on his first time out, and though he is a hard tripper and a hard drinker it almost bowled him over. The second time I gave him 3 x 30mg with about 2 hour intervals. I slid into the Hole deliciously, he was taken straight to Hell and my friend who takes 4 blotters to the cranium with ease literally ended up on his knees on the floor crying for Jesus to deliver him from Hell.

I strongly disagree that MXE is a club drug. It can be way too messy, too disorienting, and little doses add up fast causing you to Hole out on the dance floor. Dont make it illegal, use it responsibly in the livingroom or around the campfire.
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Well I've tried it a few times in a rave setting, and it went well. I never "holed out". I did find out you should definately be very careful with alcohol and that it's more enjoyable during a daytime, outside party.

That said I wholeheartedly agree that seeing how most other people react to it, it wouldn't be suitable for many of them in that setting. Personally I'm less sensitive to it than most people, and I can behave myself pretty well in a spaced-out state, so it works for me.

I wouldn't recommend it to people if they didn't ask about it, but if someone asks how MXE is as a party drug I don't think it's wrong to answer the question and discuss my own experiences while explaining not to use my dosage as a guideline.
 
What is the consensus on IM dosages vs. that of insufflated or oral? I can usually get pretty far with 80mg insufflated so I was thinking somewhere around 40mg will be what I'm looking for.
 
IM dose/response curve is much steeper and less forgiving. Might want to start with 20 mg and work up in 10 mg intervals.
 
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IM dose/response curve is much steeper and less forgiving. Might want to start with 20 mg and work up in 10 mg intervals.
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Well, since I was more concerned about under-shooting the dose I still stuck with 40mg IM and found it to be exactly what I was looking for. To me it feels like 70mg insufflated, with maybe a bit more intense and disorientating comeup/peak since its onset is much quicker. I have been using mxe nearly weekly for a few months so I believe I have a slight tolerance. Definitely a unique feel with this ROA...
 
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Well, since I was more concerned about under-shooting the dose I still stuck with 40mg IM and found it to be exactly what I was looking for. To me it feels like 70mg insufflated, with maybe a bit more intense and disorientating comeup/peak since its onset is much quicker. I have been using mxe nearly weekly for a few months so I believe I have a slight tolerance. Definitely a unique feel with this ROA...
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Yea, IM is pretty much the only way I do it now. Glad you got what you sought.
 
Then plug. There seems to be no difference in dosage/comeuptime/effects/strenghts etc.
Even the unique feel IMing provides seems to be there with plugging.
 
So i did mxe after a 3 month break.
I plugged 30mg and aimed just for the physical movement sensations.
But the 30 mg didn't do the trick.
So i plugged another 30mg.
While enjoying the feeling of my body getting stretched, tilted and twisted in all directions i closed my eyes and noticed that i'm holing.
Not a heavy hole but a hole.
Three months ago that dosage wouldnt even put me near that state.

My plan before i took the mxe was to take a bit mxe and tilidine and have a chilled evening with sitcoms and stuff.

After i took the tilidine i thought that i took it too early and that my mxe peak would overpower the tilidines effects instead of potentiating it.

How wrong i was. Okay i didn't get as much euphoria as i would have gotten with the tilidine standalone.

But the visuals where...hm different.
Instead of getting 3d hd imaxish visuals i got 3d hd imaxish visuals in full bright/rich colors. Simpsons bright colors.
Like "dude we've got some color for you"
Sure i've got color before but my holes where mostly darker themed. Very industrial.
This time everything was very bright and had more of a positive vibe....i've been in playstores themeparks, saw flowers...beautifull things.
More relation to the real world.
A mashup of opi nod mind movies and mhole mind movies/travels.

Of course i don't recommend this combo.
Might be a bit dangerous considering that mxe potentiates opiates/opioides
 
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Obsidius said:
such a pity that this substance at some point stops working completely or at least as you remember it to be.

on MXE alone i cannot hole anymore
i dont have the "30mg nice chill"
i dont feel the body sensoric hallucinations anymore (i liked the twists and shifts most)

i can walk upright on 100mg and have not even the slightest of a cross eye sighting problem. i dont even feel a bit of dissociation. when i started 3 years ago 60-80 was enough to hole massivly and i crawled like charlie chaplin into the bathroom for a pee beyond 50.

i never was a daily user, i did it a lot, i combined it with a lot, but i had weeks and months of breaks during my session.

i just want the good old floating in space sensation back, but i thinkg its gone for ever. my brain learned to overcome the dissociated malfunction i created chemically and now here i am.. should be glad that my adaptive organism overcame a barrier but hate it for that :/
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Yep, I completely agree.

I was pretty much a daily user for about a year, with my last dosages around 120mg plugged with little to no effect, even repeated 15-20 minutes later. Recently took a two month break since it wasn't doing shit.

Come back and plug 30mg. Don't feel to much, but I can tell I'm a little high. Decide to plug 35mg, feeling more "fucked up" but not the usual enjoyable high, the one filled with MXE warmth and a noticeable body high, along with slight dissociation even with a huge tolerance back then. Instead I'm left with a subtle barely noticeable high and increasing mania as I redose.

I went downstairs a few times and talked with my mother. According to her I was slurring my speech pretty badly and was noticeably messed up. I didn't believe her at first, as I in no way felt super messed up. I could walk perfectly fine, speak pretty fine too. Only notable thing was increased difficulty typing, which I always get. I recorded myself speaking to see if I was slurring but didn't notice it AT ALL. She said it was totally obvious, and to stay upstairs because of it.

So I think it's safe to assume even after a 2 month break, there isn't much to be had from MXE anymore. Seems to just fuck me up if I keep dosing, causing lots of mania and I also wind up sleeping for long periods of time the next day, usually until like noon and ONE time all the way until 4:30 PM. I was like wtf !!! And couldn't believe it. I felt perfectly fine with zero hangover too. Hadn't even dosed that much the night before. I believe I plugged 30mg, another 30-40mg, then plugged around 60mg. This was over an hour or two, then fell asleep.
 
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Had my first MXE experience the day before yesterday and found it remarkably different from other dissociatives. Of course, there are plenty of similarities as well, but the fact that I felt both sedated and stimulated at the same time (a bit like kratom), empathic and talkative (as you might be on empathogens), dissociated and weird like on ketamine and fuzzy and warm as if it were an opiate. This was on 25 mg. sublingual and another 25 mg. sublingual after 35 minutes by the way. I had another 25 mg. lying around, but didn't feel the need to redose.

The comeup can be tricky, as it's really much more stretched out than ketamine would be. I can imagine people thinking they don't feel it and then overdoing it by taking too much too soon. The aftereffects are what surprised me most. Up until 24 hours later I still felt a bit off and dissociated. I also had trouble sleeping for at least an hour at T+6. Residual stimulation from a dissociative? That's new to me.

All in all a fascinating substance, but not one I feel like trying too often I think.
 
Ok what a fucking night i had last night. Its time to lay off the mxe for me. Went through 250mgs spread out over 2 hours along with 24 nitrous hits + 4mgs of Alprazlom spread out over the evening/night. if i had a strip sitter i would have been a OK but i ended up locking myself in the bathroom in the dark for the 3rd time but this time sliced up the fucking cake. i dont know now long i was in there for but i began to feel like the pitch dark space was closing in on me, i was sprawled across the ground trying to find light. i had not fucking clue what to think at this point i had already forgot i was in the bathroom or on mxe it was very scary but i pulled through like a champ and found the light switch some how. I came to when i flipped the lights on and the fucking mirror that's mounted above the sink was leaned up against the bath tub across from the sink and there's a small hole in the dry rock i have to fix. oh also the rag holder was ripped off. Im looking at it today and the indention in the dry wall looks like the corner frame of the mirror so for some reason i guess i could have possibly decided the mirror needed to be removed for some dumb reason. Good thing is i didnt brake the mirror and cut myself with broken mirror glass jacked up on a dissociative. My fault...
 
Updating all y'all mxe'cans with the status of my travels. Its hard to believe I've been on a 15 month honeymoon with this stuff. I am still roughly on the same regimen, 30-100 mg a day with occasional breaks every 1-3 weeks for anywhere between 5 days and a month. The point of my post is regarding IM versus IV ROA. It seems most people here IM, not much talk of IV. Is there a reason for this? I have actually never IMd it but do occasionally IV 5-20 mg. Is it really that much safer to IM, or is the reason people prefer IM because it has better qualitative effects? As for potency it is A little more potent to IV correct? The main reason I IV is because I'm more comfortable with it given my experience IVing other things. On that note I have had wonderful experiments mixing 10mg or so in with a shot of opiates, its the bees knees! But don't do it yourself unless you are super comfortable with the process and you know its a pure product, this is after all trying to focus on harm reduction.
Oh also I've recently experimented with vaporizing it and it has grown on me for the quick onset of effects. No fancy technique, I just use tin foil.
 
Flushed my stash yesterday. This stuff is just too fiendish! Going to try and do it only a couple times a year instead.
 
vortech said:
Oh also I've recently experimented with vaporizing it and it has grown on me for the quick onset of effects. No fancy technique, I just use tin foil.
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vaporizing feels completely different than any other ROA. there is almost no dissociation, motoric distortion and tactile body sensation but a huge sedation with a head wrapped in cotton wool. it rather feels like a hand full of benzos or a small dose of opioids. lasts very short though and i didnt find it worth the material, but interesting to test and see for what trickery MXE holds on each ROA.
 
2c-goinsane said:
if i had a strip sitter
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Is that a trip sitting stripper?

vortech said:
Oh also I've recently experimented with vaporizing it and it has grown on me for the quick onset of effects.
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How enjoyable is this vis-à-vis IV onset?

As to your question about IM over IV, problem with near-instant action ROAs is when you enjoy the rush/come-up more than the high itself (also shouldn't IV have a higher peak-plasma concentration and thus raise tolerance quicker? And rush chasing means more frequent administration which'll have that result for sure). Also, the confusion, hectic-ness, and anterograde amnesia are going to be a bit more intense with the IV route, which'll lead many to prefer IM.
 
~55mg of mxe went in an oral syringe, then up my butt. I stuck the syringe all the way up and felt it get tighter the deeper it went, but never loosen up like a friend told me it might once i got far enough.

it was about 10 minutes ago and i dont think im feeling it. i've been im'ing between 20 and 60 mg pretty regularly.

no clean rigs atm, hence why i tried rectal. i didnt do an enema but i pooped today and thought that would be enough.

so yea, what did i do wrong? is the enema essential? how long should i wait before i sniff some (to avoid dosing higher than i want to)?

sorry for the cross post i'm just trying to get an answer faster
 
you're not supposed to stick it in far at all. wtf that must have hurt. but yeah maybe your tolerance is too high, or it went into the intestine. i hate plugging as a way to take drugs :P
 
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