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The Big & Dandy Methoxetamine Thread - Hit #12 - Oh look, it's MXE o'clock

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Transform said:
It does, of course, depend where you're going - I don't think I would take it anywhere I wouldn't take a psychedelic.
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Sure, it depends on so many different factors (Batch/ROA).

But another thing: i so often read about people taking Methoxetamine AFTER they'd taken LSD, but has anyone tried LSD after having an MXE experience?
 
I've frequently combined MXE and alcohol on a night out. Seems to interact nicely maybe 30mg (t+0 beginning of night) 30mg (t+0200-0300) and +30 (t+0500-0600) if im fiending maybe a 50 to space out sommit rotten. Add cannabis to this combo and the first time I do this I actually am convinced I am dying and sort of accepted it (mad that bit), numbness, slurred speech, tripping balls, ears ringing. Rang a friend to calm me down. 2nd time combining mxe and cannabis.. calm myself down, realise I am just *TRIPPING BALLS HARD* and tidy my room,make my bed, all high as fuck yet very very calm. Dashed a g over the space of 2 weeks about 2 month ago. Getting a ball soon.
 
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THCified said:
^ I wouldn't wanna go out on 20-30mgs.
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I agree. MXE is very antisocial for me, because it slows me down. Language becomes cumbersome and confusing, which obviously makes socialization pretty pointless.

Whereas psychedelics are great for socialization, because they stimulate unusual / enlightening conversation, and remove certain social boundaries.
 
^ Yes, I find the dissociative, almost numbing aspect a detriment to socializing or intimacy of the verbal or physical kind..
 
I wouldn't wanna call it antisocial, but i'm more relaxed at home taking stuff like that in general. Same with psychedelics!

I did try the MXE+LSD-combination, but hasty and stupid as i am i added some 4-AcO-DMT to the mix because it felt too "mechanic" and wasn't what i was looking for, ....and then BOTH, the LSD and 4-AcO-DMT hit me with full force....

Awww what a night :|

Btw, i say "mechanic" because dissociatives have a somewhat artificial feel to them while i find psychedelics more "natural" or "organic" if that makes any sense?

Believe me, i'm trough with combining substances for the moment... I'm so-so stuffed!
 
I wouldn't call Methoxetamine anti-social either. In low doses, it has the ability to boost dopamine and allow your creative juices to flow, resulting in relaxation and sense of openness with those around you. It makes conversations flow a little easier, in my experience.

At higher doses however, I can definitely say it becomes borderline "Inward thinking" which results in the user not really caring about verbal interaction, though you do not dislike it either. The dissociative aspect leads to the user, at high doses, to stumble on words and it makes it very difficult to talk correctly, which often results in mumbling and a foolish-like appearance to those unaware you are on something.

Certainly not anti-social though. I love being around people and interacting with them when I'm on a high dose, I simply won't say much due to myself knowing it'll only lead to difficulty of interpretation by the second party involved.
 
I can give you exactly say - MXE enhances my health. And it's not nonsense.

edit: stop adding largely unrelated videos and pictures, this is not a social thread
 
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I find low, sublingual doses of MXE (~30mg) somewhat confusing & emotionally disinhibiting. Not necessarily best for being around people.
 
There is a vender from China that is cutting their mxe with what appears to be talac powder. You can find this out by putting the product through a cotton filter in a funnel. The talac powder will not pass through the filter but the mxe will pass though, dissolved in the water.
What has been found is that depending on how the unfiltered batch settles in the bag, depends on how much of an 'mxe' experience the user may have. The same amount weighed out may hit hard or soft. This is vital to know when a dose is as little as 20mg or as much as 200mg.

On another note my friend has used mxe orally, IM, IV, plugged, and snorted. What has been noticed is that it is very addictive and can isolate the user from the world.
 
Almost forgot about that...

Is it just me, or has someone else the very weird feeling that after ingesting a somewhat higher (i.e. more confusing) single dose of MXE, that reality is some kind of big joke, that everything is unreal and yourself are part of your own bizarre "Truman Show"? It's reocurring and easily possible to reproduce, and something that's everytime accompanied by a even more strange feeling of reality being folded in/rolled up.

I had this many times when ingesting a too high single dose but just after taking the above specified combination i'm possible to properly recollect it.

Sometimes there's also a unsettling noise when this happens, which is very hard to describe. If i had to, i'd say it resembles an inwards rotating, high-pitched tinnitus-like noise, but i think this makes no sense at all!?
 
Transform said:
I completely disagree with that suggestion. 60mg for a new user is a LOT - 20-30mg is an ideal amount for a beginner and is what I would take were I to use MXE on an evening out.

At such doses it's a pleasant disorientation and disconnection with unusual thought patterns and subtle energy.
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If you read my post you can see that my suggestion was to start lower than that. BTW, you can't really say 30mg I is ideal for a beginner, it was not enough for me even the first timesI tried MXE. But as I already said dosages vary wildly, and I think I made it clear enough that he should start lower.
 
Be careful with dissociative newbies and MXE. I gave my buddy 30mg MXE on his first time out, and though he is a hard tripper and a hard drinker it almost bowled him over. The second time I gave him 3 x 30mg with about 2 hour intervals. I slid into the Hole deliciously, he was taken straight to Hell and my friend who takes 4 blotters to the cranium with ease literally ended up on his knees on the floor crying for Jesus to deliver him from Hell.

I strongly disagree that MXE is a club drug. It can be way too messy, too disorienting, and little doses add up fast causing you to Hole out on the dance floor. Dont make it illegal, use it responsibly in the livingroom or around the campfire.
 
^ Well said. The club - or most other public places - would be a stupid idea.
 
Yeah I dont have a ton of experience with MXE (used 1gram over couple month period) , but IME , it's not something I'd like to take in public. I've done a small oral dose and went and played cards which was fine and while I don't think it hindered the experience it didn't enhance it at all. I can't imagine how I'd be on a larger dose or even 30mg redose each hour insuff. As that usually sends me to a pretty wonky headspace where communication doesn't come easy.

Anyways I ordered another gram even though I wasn't hugely impressed with the stuff. Mainly so I could see how it combines with some of the tryptamines I love.

So far in conjunction with alcohol and marijuana I found the experiences less desirable then when using MXE alone.

Marijuana + MXE leaves me in a state of confusion
Alcohol (am trying not to drink , 2 weeks now so won't be trying this again) seemed like a potential recipe for disaster. Didn't feel dangerous , but I felt it could def lead me to doing some embarrassing things and seemed to amplify the drunkenness a lot. Meaning a small amount of alcohol would feel like a much higher dose.

What I want to know though , and maybe I should just post in the combination thread is how to go about dosing with tryptamines. Which to dose first. How much I should cut back on normal dose when combining.

I tested 30mg insuff. This morning after allergy testing to make sure it's similar to the last stuff in potency (& it is).

20mg is my normal dose 4-aco-DMt

I'd say generally my preferred dosage of MXE is 100-150mg over a 4 hour period , in 30mg piles.

I've done 200mg in 50-60mg piles over a few hour sitting but I found it to be to intense to be enjoyable (eyesight was shot , couldn't see anything without squinting & to much confusion)

Tonight I was thinking -

15mg 4-aco-DMt

Then when I get first alerts go with

20-25mg mxe insuff.

& repeat mxe 45 minutes later if I am enjoying the combo but want to go a bit further with it.

I've scanned the combo thread but the reports I remember reading the person did 4-aco-DMt hours after MXE.

I kind of want to stack peaks instead but would like to do so as safely as possible. Any input? Thanks
 
THCified said:
Is it just me, or has someone else the very weird feeling that after ingesting a somewhat higher (i.e. more confusing) single dose of MXE, that reality is some kind of big joke, that everything is unreal and yourself are part of your own bizarre "Truman Show"? It's reocurring and easily possible to reproduce, and something that's everytime accompanied by a even more strange feeling of reality being folded in/rolled up.

I had this many times when ingesting a too high single dose but just after taking the above specified combination i'm possible to properly recollect it.

Sometimes there's also a unsettling noise when this happens, which is very hard to describe. If i had to, i'd say it resembles an inwards rotating, high-pitched tinnitus-like noise, but i think this makes no sense at all!?
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I have had this happen a lot when used in conjunction with tryptamines. My experience might be slighty different, but reading what you describe sounds a whole lot like my experiences. It almost always happens on the comedown from the various tryptamines I experiment with. If I use a moderate to high dose of MXE, my world just falls apart and I see it receated right in from of me. I won't bother with numbers because my tolerence is very high. This even occurs usually during what I consider to be a period of reflection. At first it was scary, but I feel as though I've mastered the process of recreating it and observing the results. Regardless, there always a major mindfuck when it happens.
 
Sorry for double post but another thing I've noticed.

I don't really get euphoria out of it , but in low doses it did work as a anti depressant in a way. A feeling of content-ness. This did not last for days as a afterglow as its said to of for others.

the 1 time I did a high dose I had been a bit stressed , about my future , and after 2 50-60mg bumps over an hour I had felt as if I had figured it all out. I was to confused to actually SEE how it was figured out but I was convinced that after that day I'd have everything figured out and monetary stress , career , future etc would no longer be a stress I'd have to deal with. It was like I felt as soon as I was to baseline I would be able to put it all together and the only reason I couldn't at the time was given the state of confusion I was in. Needless to say it was a delusion. Ha! I don't think I'll be pushing past 100mg in a night again anytime soon.
 
MXE can be sneaky. I want to do it, a lot. I have a friend holding on to my stash for me, for at least today. It was starting to get weird, sometimes the high would be short, other times it seem to last for hours. I think I may have had some accumulate in my body, because I was IMing it so often. Smoking weed especially would make these residual effects particularly apparent. I'm even getting to the point where I can function (talk, perform basic tasks. nothing fancy) on relatively low doses of MXE (less than 40 mg IM. I'm not even sure where my tolerance is at since I stopped sniffing it). I think I temporarily induced mania from MXE abuse at least twice. I was lucky in that it was not bad. The first time especially, I was simply in an excellent (uncharacteristic) mood, very talkative and confident. I wonder if I may have benefitted from any therapeutic potential MXE may have, however there is a good chance that is just me trying to get myself to do more.

MXE is a very strange, wonderous thing.
 
J.Wallace said:
Hate to burst your bubble but people like you and me who have such a high tolerance (100mg+ having little to no effect regardless of roa) don't usually see a diminish in tolerance in only 2 months time. I personally was doing it pretty much daily for about a year, except for one period of time where I stopped for about a month in a half. When I received some more, I could use minimal material and get the desired effects, however the initial magic was never regained.
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Everyone's different. My tolerance may very well have dropped quite a bit. The magic of the first bunch of times using it, of course I don't expect that to be there.

I'm just after the usual buzz I got every night until I felt like sleeping.
 
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