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The Big & Dandy Methoxetamine Thread - 6th Dose (now you've gone and used it all up)

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I'm currently forcing myself to take at least a few days off of this substance. I definitely have some mild cravings which kinda scares me. Once they go away, I'll start again but with much more responsible use. I used it maybe 5 out of the last 8 days in doses varying from 1 bump on a couple days to holing on one night but mostly in between the two.
 
A little bit of nonesense from last night that I actually like:

There came a time when time was wine and I drank myself to sleep. Now every time my mind unwinds I choose which thoughts I keep.
 
n3wt said:
A little bit of nonesense from last night that I actually like:

There came a time when time was wine and I drank myself to sleep. Now every time my mind unwinds I choose which thoughts I keep.
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I like it. Have you ever considered becoming a rapper?
 
Friend gave me some of this magic stuff.
Need to write a trip report.

Out of this world. More so than DMT by many miles.
I've been well farther on MXE than DMT.
That may sound impossible, but it's not. I assure you.

I like about 200mg to get where I'm going on this substance.

What I experience isn't related to something like a normal "drug".

I wouldn't consider MXE a "drug" on this level. Low dosages yes it's like alcohol almost but when I let the substance control the dosage I seriously go places and learn things I'm afraid to tell people because they may think I'm crazy. lol

Everything starts making tons of sense... and I do mean EVERYTHING.

I'd go so far as to say it opens up higher states of thinking.
 
Benzodiazapines combined with MXE create a totally blissful experience, as the benzos alleviate all the negative effects of MXE like high blood pressure and possible hypomania... so you can push the MXE doses much higher than usual and do so safely and comfortably.

You should not make a habit of this. Obviously. Do I need to repeat that?
 
garchi said:
Hi
I have one question: Does anyone have experience how the body weight affects the required dosage? Unfortunately I'm quite overweight and this tends to affect the dosage very much (for most drugs). For example 3g of cubensis shrooms produce a good yet easily manageable trip, 5g a strong yet still not overwhelming experience. With DXM my standard dosage was 600mg which lead to a upper 2nd plateau trip.

Thanks!
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It's hard to answer this question accurately, because first of all, Psilocin and Psilocybin are not particularly variable in their perceived potency depending on the body mass of the user.

Also, mushrooms are variable in their potencies so you cannot state for certain that "5g is a manageable experience". I'm sure there are 3 grams of certain Cubensis mushrooms that will blow your mind inside and out.

As far as MXE and body weight is concerned, I doubt it is much of a factor. Certainly much less a factor than tolerance will inevitably become. And certainly much less of a factor than route of administration.

So if you are asking... "If I gave a 100lb girl 30mg of MXE and she got way fucked up while I gave a 200lb guy 30mg of MXE and he didn't feel it.. why?" The answer would be something besides the weight difference. Maybe the fat guy did a bad job snorting it. Or something like that.
 
bluedolphin said:
Benzodiazapines combined with MXE create a totally blissful experience, as the benzos alleviate all the negative effects of MXE like high blood pressure and possible hypomania... so you can push the MXE doses much higher than usual and do so safely and comfortably.
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My mid/high dose DXM experiences have always been adversely affected by racing & pounding heart. It's probably ruined a number of DXM experiments for me. My best DXM trip was taken in combination with a bit of propranolol which nicely smoothed out all of that nonsense. However, I'm still unsure if that was technically "safe". :P Propranolol is a CYP2D6 inhibitor which is contraindicated with DXM.

I'll be acquiring some MXE soon, and I'd really like to know if it would be safe in combination with propranolol, or beta-blockers in general. Can anyone speculate?
 
I recommend people start low with this drug. It's active at 5mg and 10-12mg is fairly strong. I personally feel a lot of people will enjoy the drug considerably at this level and may never know it if they jump in at a higher dose.
 
I envy the valium+MXE combo. I can imagine that would be very much like Christmas as kid. Given how much I like MXE and how much I'm drawn to benzos (even though I have no such problems with alcohol, the fuck?) I would probably end up doing it way too often.

M-hole level MXE (about 60-80mg with no tolerance) is probably the most singularly intense drug experience I've had. The only thing I can compare it to is 20x salvia. I watched myself die from a third person perspective, spent several (hours, minutes?) as pure vibrational existence traversing the lifestream, and then was reborn.

I mean reborn not in the sense that I felt refreshed or like a new person. I mean I felt life slowly pour into me as I awoke to external reality. It's not like my experience coming out of anesthesia after surgery, which had no transitionary period (you know what I'm talking about if you've ever been put under). I honestly feel in the depth of my soul that I felt the same sensations that the dying feel and the newborn feel.

I cannot feel fear of death anymore. The experience was not pleasurable, but it was not frightening. It just was, and I knew I had to let go. I certainly do not want to die and I don't particularly look forward to death, but I cannot be afraid.

Psilocybin, LSD, and MDMA have been used in terminally ill patients for this reason, but I have extensive experience with all of these compounds and I think dissociatives are infinitely more well suited.

I hope somebody who has had a near-death experience can report if the feeling really is similar to the M-hole.
 
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^ you just nailed it spot on. for a long time after my heavy m-hole experiences i no longer feared death... felt re-born, such a beautiful afterglow for weeks after,

this stuff definitely can be as intense as DMT or more intense, along side smoking massive hits of DMT, ego-deathng and visiting entities in alien worlds, MXE has been on par. problem is i never have any idea on the dose it takes to get me where, all my m-hole experiences have come from stupidly hoofing up big lines when drunk lol
 
My experience was by accident as well. I was getting inpatient that MXE didn't seem to do anything anymore, so I dumped a lot under my tongue and railed a fat line at the same time, without measuring any of it. I don't usually do shit like that. It's highly irresponsible and stupid. But I've talked about how addicting I find it before.

I'm telling myself that I won't order any more for the foreseeable future. I can't afford to let it slip out of control any further. After withdrawing from suboxone I felt nothing but sadness, regret, despair, and intense unceasing physical anxiety for a year. I need be nicer to my mind.
 
I don't know if its just me, but did anyone ever encounter this "gravitational floating" expierience on MXE around the 120-150mg range.
I feel like in a thick gel and the gel moves around in every direction. Or like an anemonia under water.
I once "floated" through space and felt every gravitational force in the universe. as if gravity are nothing more than vectors or force bending space and everything inbeween. i was so sensitive to gravitiy that i even felt cars drive by my window by getting pulled towards its moving direction.

I can reproduce this effect everytime but it needs a certain setting. I cannot do it while moving or having someone around distracting me.
I lay on my back completly flat out and try not to touch anthing (pillows ect) with hands and feet until i dont feel my body at all anymore.
Eyes closed, ambient/drone musik works best to "levitate" into this gravitational-consciousness.

But maybe it's a totally common aspect of MXE and i dont know it, because i know anyone liking it that much as i do :)

stay safe!
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^ Oh hell yeah, soaring off into infinity while gravity throws and pulls and twists your 'body' into impossible shapes is half the fun. Don't even need doses that high to get it, 75-100mg being plenty for me. Sink down into the launch vehicle ((( That would be my bed btw. ;) ))) while it moulds itself comfortingly around you and then off . . .
 
@sepher glad to hear that! i just love that floating around epically architectural structures. you're right on the dose bit. i once had the floating on 80mg as well but i constantly got "out of the tunnel", so anything over 100 gives me plenty of time checking gravity out :D
 
Transcendende:

I really ujnderstand a lot of your points.
I died a few times on MXE. Sometimes I am placed on alien life support, other times I am just left to die and *shudder* straight enjoy the feeling! It's like it's ok. I'm not scared to die anymore. Just let it happen and get it over with. Death is no biggie.

I've never had near death experiences besides with substances... and it's kinda similar to DMT.
I would almost consider the states I have reached on DMT and MXE to be near death experiences. You feel like you are out of body and don't feel like you will be back.. untill you start to come down lol.

loremipsum
I've definitely felt gravity pulling on me a few times. This is almost about when I throw up usually but don't. Kinda around the same time I'm going through the N-D-E portion of the trip. I usually go through this area and further on MXE. This seems like a come up or comedown of the trip.

When I "get there" there is a massive euphoria.
I know I'm there and I start "using my eye" to "see".
I begin learning massive amounts of information that would be impossible to relay to you all here.

The drug went so far as to tell me I am supposed to write about what happens because others can't explain it as well.

I wrote a freaking new aged bible on this stuff but would probably be called crazy if I posted it. Personally I don't believe I am crazy but some things I have "seen" on MXE may not be fully explainable to people outside that world who will care to understand.
(people who don't know about mxe would think I lost it and contacted aliens)
When I come back to reality some of these things actually seem to make sense in an eerie sort of way.
 
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i always get that "thick gel" feeling, feel like im walking underwater, robot liquid electricity always springs to mind for some reason,
 
loremipsum said:
^ speaking of near death. is it common to see ghosts, souls or dead ppl around you on MXE and even feel their touch but no fright at all?

i do see ghosts sometimes massaging my belly or sitting on my feet and totally feeling their "weight" and touch. in any of this circumstances i never freaked out just had a "a well, ok i'm not alone here" feeling and went about my trip.
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The pushing/pulling/getting felt up feeling happens all the time to me on MXE. I'm not sure what causes it...Probably just the body's detectors of tactile sensation and balance becoming disassociated and creating their own hallucinations.

I've long since dismissed the suggestion that MXE allows us to contact the dead/extraterrestrial life/gods though. It's a beautiful and profound illusion, but an illusion nonetheless.
 
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