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The Big & Dandy Methoxetamine Thread - 5th Dose (you took too much, seriously)

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^ ive had a similar experience. makes you feel really thick and stupid. also gave me a nasty headache
 
Can anyone explain their best possible accurate description of what effects are felt while experiencing an m-hole? I have done some pretty high doses and have felt some incredible things, but I'm not sure as to whether it was the true hole or not.
dont worry about putting a name to the eperience. If youve experienced amazing things thats what matters.

this shits great if you IM it! i hardly put any in the spoon, and use roughly 5cc of water if even that much. do it the same way at the doctor office thru the buttcheeks. gives me enough time to rinse the rig, and the feeling is over whelming so i crash on the bed and just lay there with music on.
dont rinse the rig. Just toss it. Theyre made to be 1 time use, and are cheap enough to be used that way.

This last batch of mxe I got keeps me awake for 12 hours... idk wtf is up... for the past 4 months or whatever I've been able to take sme at say 6 or 7pm and hadno problem falling asleep by midnight or so... but the last couple times I've taken it in the evening, I haven't been able to fall asleep until like 5am...

The rest of the effects seem the same as they've always been except for that...

I'm a bit puzzled...

This only happenened since I've got this new batch... basicly it seems to have about double the duration of the rest...
Did you take a break between batches?
Ive found that the little break between batches drops my tolerance to the point that when i use again the experience feels longer and stronger, untill i use for a few days straight and then its back to how it usually is.
 
I just wanted to ask someone who is more experienced with IM injection if this syringe is suitable, it definitely is short, and I feel like it would just pop the skin...also whats the best way to prep mxe for a shot, does it have to be filtered like cocaine does?

...oh and heres a pic of that syringe
http://myinsulinsyringe.com/images/syringe-3-10cc.jpg
...the needle isnt longer than a quarter inch
 
^It depends how fat you are, I think. 1/2 inch needles are certainly better for IM. If you are thin or muscular injecting in the shoulder will probably reach muscle with a 5/16ths needle (it may even reach it in the thigh, but I think the shoulder is a surer bet). It's always best to filter anything, but hopefully the MXE isn't cut with anything else. MXE doesn't seem to be as water soluble as ketamine so it may require more volume than that. Experiment with heating. Adding a small amount of white vinegar might help, too. In any case, skin popping MXE should still be highly effective.

I haven't bothered with IM for a long time since plugging is nearly as effective with a lot less preparation.
 
Yeah I have plugged 2CI (20mg) before, which was amazing, and am not gonna not do something just because its a little taboo, I might try that instead, these needles seem a little impractical for IM anyway..I know ketamine can be IVd with great results (or so I have read) but are there any reports with MXE, do people ever IV it? and those syringes I have would be fine for IV right, since I am on the topic? Also man, are unused cig filters fine for filtering a solution or is cotton or something else better?
 
Delsyd: Maybe a slightly slower onset, but the bioavailability will be the same I think.

For methoxetamine if all you have is cig filters or cotton I wouldn't bother filtering. I thought you meant a micron filter. Just heat up the sterile water to kill anything in the methoxetamine.
 
Didn't read the whole thread I apology, but does somebody found that piracetam can decrease MXE tolerance? I found low doses plugged (10-15mg) far more euphoric than the X2 dose sniffed , almost an opiate rush to it!
 
BlueDolphin mentioned using piracetam to lower his tolerance to MXE in between recieving different batches.
Ive also read in EADD of someone doing something similar.

This makes me curious, i do have a big tub of piracetam lying around.

Another interesting thing ive noticed is that smoking a cig while on MXE will make the effects stronger for a bit, i am not usually a cigarette smoker though so maybe its my lack of tolerance to tobacco. But ive tried it on several occasions and it always amplifies the effects.
 
Yea I had quit for about a week... but I had done this plenty of times before and never had this issue before...

Its kinda like the initial part feels the same but instead of it just going away after 5-6 hours it sorta starts feeling like I've come down... but then when I lay down to sleep I get these sorta strobing/fashing cev's for hours more... if I open my eyes or get up or watch tv I notice no efffects but then turn everything off and try to sleep and its all flashes and pops and such...

This has never happened till I got this latest batch...
 
Delsyd: I have no personal experience, but I've read reports of people using ketamine shortly after taking piracetam and saying it dramatically reduced the dissociation. So maybe there is an interesting interaction going on with NMDA antagonists and piracetam. I've taken MXE at night after having taken piracetam in the morning and noticed no difference. I'm not really tolerant, though, so I can't say much.
 
Ok thanks for the input mates. Will give piracetam a try to reduce my tolerance and report the results, but I've to create my tolerance before hehe :D . I'm under selegiline at the moment for nootropics purposes (at IMAO-B doses), don't want to mix MXE with it before knowing the safety of the combo...

I'm currently working on a formulation of low dose selegiline, MXE, and MDAI. I will post the optimal ratio when I discover it. Selegiline *greatly* enhances and potentiates the MDAI experience, and selegiline with MXE was wild. The three together are really something special.

Right now I'm working with 5mg selegiline tablets that are very small and easy to crush, so I am preparing capsules with 2.5mg selegiline, 50mg MXE and 75mg MDAI. The rest of the capsule is then filled with magnesium oxide.

It seems that it can be safely done. (Maybe)
 
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Has anybody ever IMd MXE tho, I don't think I have ever read of this..why don't people do it more often?
 
Has anybody ever IMd MXE tho, I don't think I have ever read of this..why don't people do it more often?

People do it all the time. It's just that the majority of users don't have needles to hand. IMing is a very effective ROA for MXE.
 
Is it possible at all to have an OBE on this? I titrated up from 25mg to 200mg over the course of 8 months with 20 doses and I have to say I'm disappointed that I haven't found a hole on this. Is it even possible?

At 180mg I barely left my body, and two weeks later on 200mg I didn't go any further. Is there some kind of ceiling effect that prevents this from having the same magic as K?

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Here on Erowid this guy talks about an M-Hole at 40mg. Is there something wrong with me? I don't think I should have a tolerance. http://www.erowid.org/experiences/exp.php?ID=90865
 
In my opinion, Mx is just a straight euphoric entactogenic. It's not as dissociating as Ketamine. Feels a lot more dopaminergic and you can feel the opoid side a lot more than you can on Ketamine
 
Oh shit I meant to say IV lol, I meant to say why do people always IM it, and why dont more people just IV it, wouldnt it be more effective..I have heard of people IVing Ketamine, but not IVing MXE, why?
 
How is MXE with alcohol? Will be having a few drinks tonight and was considering a key bump or too when I finished. Does it increase nausea at all? I tried it for the first time last night and had none at all.
 
this stuff sucks. albeit, i only had two nights of doing it - 250 mgs worth. But it still seemed pretty bad. Maybe it was a bad batch, but fuck, the second night was awful. Gave me a nasty headache and it hardly affected me at all. First night was good at very low doses, but once I took a fat line, I felt really horrible and became terrified that I'd been poisoned. Just seemed so inferior to k. Dunno If I'll bother ordering again.
 
Updated My Thoughts On This One

FIRST THOUGHTS AND SECOND CHANCES

I got a load of this when it first come out and initially found it quite interesting, but there were things about it i weren't too sure about. As i said at the time theres something quite psychotic about it, far moreso than K. After a few mad sessions on it, i came to the decision i'd learnt all i could about it, i felt it lacked a lot of the depth of a good K-hole and the lingering after effects were just a little too long and annoying. One-trick-pony I think I called it and stashed it away somewhere lonely and ignored.

Anyway a few months ago I thought I'd give it another chance, bit of a K drowt, that dodgy shit will do. I told myself not to go too crazy this time and whadya know, i found some new love in it (mixed it up with Butylone, good little combo, see my post in the appropriate thread). It seemed i was wrong to dismiss this interesting multi-faceted sneaky little fucker!

TAKE IT EASY, AND IT WILL BE GREAT

There are some drugs i have major respect for: Acid, because its a serious commitment, DMT because its so full-on, benzos in general cos of the dependency (I'm sure you have a few drugs you could nominate here for your own reasons). But most of the time i just go fuck it, sniff it, see what happens today, Coke, Drone, Ket are all good examples of this.

I've realised now that MXE (Mox as we call it round here) is one to be respected. Nice reasonable size lines are good, but rather than every ten minutes I try to give it an hour between em. Soon enough i'm gently/messily finding myself in a world of much peace and happiness, with a fair bit of the good old wobble-wierd for entertainment. In many ways it reminds me of when I used to do K almost 24/7. Some kinda make-believe world that feels so good where i can do anything and its all kinda great, somewhere i never want to leave.

The loved-up feeling i get from mox is unlike anything else, sorta like that first E but not, different in a slightly ketty-everythings-great kinda way. Both me and my Mrs have really taken a magical rediscovery of this. The psychotic edge seems to have subsided (but i know its there, its had a few minutes in the spotlight) but taking it all slower seems to help.

Of course it aint for everyone, i've heard of bad experiences, think i even heard the usual "blue knees" story resurface. But I think its important to respect this drug. Etizolam seems to be good for easing it all off a bit if you do find it too much.

ADDICTION?

I'm certain this is addictive in much the same way as Ketamine, everythings so great on it and seems so horrible when you come off it that all you wanna do is stay moxified. Like I said I've been there with K and went through "withdrawals" (might have worsened since i'd built up a minor Valium habit which i kicked the same time),so I really do know how hard it is to come off something like this. Emotions are sinking, wanting to scream, fight, cry or whatever it is you do when you're this low. You go outside but the real-world seems a million times worse in every way, its all so fast, people running at a thousand miles an hour...for what?! Everything is in your face, everyone is in your space, society is full of idiots and arseholes, and no-one else knows or gets it cos they haven't been where you've been and seen how it really is. They're all ignorant, but you know, you can't articulate it but you know it, so fuck them. Let them have their little life, never questioning, never wanting to know. You've seen/felt more than any mortal should see/feel. That makes you pretty fucking magical and I know you wanna go back for more but not today. Hopefully not tomorrow either.

Sadly the real world is shit but you'll get used it again.

I admit I've drawn more from my own K withdrawal experience (which followed several months of every day) and my own feelings following a few Mox benders. With a little bit of my own bad attitude thrown in. But for those hooked and trying to get off this I'm sure your experiences are not all that different. If it does seem at all similar I won't lie and say its easy but it sure aint impossible I can't tell you what to do next, theres different ways to deal with it, and its a personal thing, you have to find the right solution for you.

On a happy note remember with respect and reason, an occasional Mox/MXE sesh with someone you love or people your close to can be amazing, life-changing even, but not if its everyday.
 
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