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The Big & Dandy Methoxetamine Thread - 5th Dose (you took too much, seriously)

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JSPete said:
Dosing daily with a come-what-may attitude is almost certainly going to result in an addiction. It happened for me and many others. Nobody really likes having a drug addiction, plus you'll probably start to take increasingly larger doses as your tolerance builds and you get accustomed to the feel of MXE. And once that's started, when will it end, and what sort of state could you be in when it does?

Daily dosing for the hell of it is a baaad idea.
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this.
 
Mob Rules said:
Not exactly what your looking for but this ketamine.


As for taking MXE every day, keep in mind that this is an RC designed to be like K but stronger in lower dosages and it took us A LONG ass time to figure out how badly ketamine can mess up your stomach and bladder.
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Well I'll say it now, I actually have no experience with RCs and no knowledge of MXE other than what I've been told about it calming. It would be great if someone has advice on max dosage, min dosage, effect cooldown, afterglow etc

I have, however tried Ketamine and I know for sure that it's too trippy for what I want.

Pegasus said:
What's wrong with one of those?
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They're useless. I've had plenty on various other drugs and they last maybe a few weeks. Then the feeling is gone and all I'm left with is the memory of the feeling.

JSPete said:
Dosing daily with a come-what-may attitude is almost certainly going to result in an addiction. It happened for me and many others. Nobody really likes having a drug addiction, plus you'll probably start to take increasingly larger doses as your tolerance builds and you get accustomed to the feel of MXE. And once that's started, when will it end, and what sort of state could you be in when it does?

Daily dosing for the hell of it is a baaad idea.
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Understood.
 
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ColtDan said:
if you find ketamine too trippy, MXE is not ideal.
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It's not too trippy in general, K is a nice drug. It's just too trippy for this situation. I don't want to be out of my mind, just chilled, happy and calm.
 
Just adding a little to the conversation. Jinux is a friend of mine. His only experience with Ketamine is at around the 100mg mark, where things start to get quite trippy but not to the point of falling into the K hole. Methoxetamine has the advantage of being quite easy to control and being quite clear headed rather than too messy at the 15mg dose I tried it at last night, certainly something I never found with Ketamine.

I think he's just wondering how low the dose needs to be to avoid being too impaired for work etc. :)
 
Jinux said:
It's not too trippy in general, K is a nice drug. It's just too trippy for this situation. I don't want to be out of my mind, just chilled, happy and calm.
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You will always be out of your mind to some degree on MXE, just like with ketamine...it kinda comes with the territory for dissociatives.

Even at the smallest doses, there's that element of wonkiness. At the least you feel slightly drunk, and at the most you're wonki-ing in 10 different directions at once in the most intriguing way.
 
JSPete said:
You will always be out of your mind to some degree on MXE, just like with ketamine...it kinda comes with the territory for dissociatives.

Even at the smallest doses, there's that element of wonkiness. At the least you feel slightly drunk, and at the most you're wonki-ing in 10 different directions at once in the most intriguing way.
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Well what would you suggest for the dose with the least impairment while still keeping me calm?

I understand that I'm going to feel different, I'm not expecting to suddenly just not be agitated :P
 
Just a tiny, pea-sized bump ought to leave you just above sober to begin with. I'd insufflate it too...The other ROAs are probably too effective and could overstep the mark.
 
Are you able to give him an approximate dose? I think a "pea-sized bump" could quickly lead to error.

I'd have to agree that sublingual is quite a strong efficient ROA so either go the insufflated route or halve your dose.
 
Jesusgreen said:
Are you able to give him an approximate dose? I think a "pea-sized bump" could quickly lead to error.

I'd have to agree that sublingual is quite a strong efficient ROA so either go the insufflated route or halve your dose.
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Hmm I have to admit I never weigh the small doses...I'm assuming between 5 and 10mg...How does that sound?
 
If you weigh your larger ones but not your smaller ones, why not take one of your larger doses, mix it with an appropriate amount of solution, and if you feel you want a smaller dose before you use it then you can split it volumetrically - if you want the full dose you can drink it all. Just make sure you keep a note of how much was in there to begin with and/or how much is left.

That said, I imagine 5-10mg would be good, and I told him this before on MSN, but I thought it'd be good to get a second opinion here since I've only had one experience at 15mg (and later an additional 5mg redose) :)
 
Jesusgreen said:
If you weigh your larger ones but not your smaller ones, why not take one of your larger doses, mix it with an appropriate amount of solution, and if you feel you want a smaller dose before you use it then you can split it volumetrically - if you want the full dose you can drink it all. Just make sure you keep a note of how much was in there to begin with and/or how much is left.
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That is a good idea, although surely it's less hassle to just get the scales out and measure out two separate doses?
 
One thing I noticed after using (relatively small) doses after work 5 days in a row was a markedly increased pulse, higher blood pressure and irregular heartbeat when being sober. My heart was pounding quite hard at times, and it felt very unpleasant. MXE raises your hearbeat, you'll notice this especielly at higher doses when it's actually physically very stimulating.
 
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took for the second time last night ~95mg last night plugged. Felt a lot stronger in some ways than the first time with 50mg, but still not strong enough. No visuals, no real dissasociation. Took ~35mg sublingually an hour and a half into it. Laid on my couch with a blanket listening to music, ALMOST felt like I was where I was aiming for, but not quite. For about ten-fifteen minutes I felt like I was right on the edge, but never fell over :-(.

Almost wonder if it didn't absorb properly as I plugged a capsule and not liquid solution. I think I will start with 150mg sublingually next time with another 50mg ready for a redose.

Felt a little hangover, but I did take .5mg xanax at the end. Feels like a hangover from 1.5/2mg xanax, and that's about it. Weird.

Frustrating :-(
 
JSPete said:
That is a good idea, although surely it's less hassle to just get the scales out and measure out two separate doses?
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Well that's always an option - but I mean the way you said you don't weigh out smaller doses makes me think you're just not so worried about them and want to get your dose down quicker. If you already have it measured in liquid it's a lot quicker than weighing it out on a scale, at least IME :D

yepyepwoah, I think if you're aiming to "hole" with this, it might be a little difficult due to the stimulation. It's similar to how people taking stimulants with Ketamine and other dissociatives have noticed difficulty holing.
 
Cyanoide said:
One thing I noticed after using (relatively small) doses after work 5 days in a row was a markedly increased pulse, higher blood pressure and irregular hearbeat when being sober. My heart was pounding quite hard at times, and it felt very unpleasant.
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I agree with this. Being sober after using MXE often, my heart will out of nowhere start to pound fast and hard. I think I'm gonna take a month or 2 off from this stuff. I really am starting to get sick of the stimulation, the whole reason I started taking it was for a mellow high, which seems hit or miss nowadays. There seems to be a lot of talk lately about different isomers, and the different effects you get.
 
Jesusgreen said:
Well that's always an option - but I mean the way you said you don't weigh out smaller doses makes me think you're just not so worried about them and want to get your dose down quicker. If you already have it measured in liquid it's a lot quicker than weighing it out on a scale, at least IME :D

yepyepwoah, I think if you're aiming to "hole" with this, it might be a little difficult due to the stimulation. It's similar to how people taking stimulants with Ketamine and other dissociatives have noticed difficulty holing.
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pretty much. Everyone else keeps talking about visual distortion's and related things, but I didn't experience anything like that. I am gonna give it one more go I guess, and if it doesn't work flush the rest :-(
 
yepyepwoah said:
took for the second time last night ~95mg last night plugged. Felt a lot stronger in some ways than the first time with 50mg, but still not strong enough. No visuals, no real dissasociation. Took ~35mg sublingually an hour and a half into it. Laid on my couch with a blanket listening to music, ALMOST felt like I was where I was aiming for, but not quite. For about ten-fifteen minutes I felt like I was right on the edge, but never fell over :-(.

Almost wonder if it didn't absorb properly as I plugged a capsule and not liquid solution. I think I will start with 150mg sublingually next time with another 50mg ready for a redose.

Felt a little hangover, but I did take .5mg xanax at the end. Feels like a hangover from 1.5/2mg xanax, and that's about it. Weird.

Frustrating :-(
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Have you tried snorting? I have a snorting fetish so I usually snort everything that can be snorted. A high dose snorted will kick you hard, the onset is much faster than with sublingual. Sublingual is equally effective but the onset is much more gradual. 60mg+ snorted always gives me a fast onset that kicks quite hard, when it hits me I always for a moment get totally lost and have to "reorganize" myself (who I am, where I am etc) before I can start enjoying the trip.

But it's all up to personal preference. Some people like a more smooth and gradual onset.
 
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