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The Big & Dandy Methoxetamine Thread - 5th Dose (you took too much, seriously)

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Dude. Chill. Then read again.

sekio said:
I think you're full of shit.
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Ok. That is just lame. You are a Moderator?

Please get off your high horse, try again, and remember what Thumper the bunny said (from Bambi; "If you can't say anything nice...").

1) I know exactly what differentiates organic from inorganic. That is why I specifically said MSG-"LIKE", and NOT MSG. Please don't try to call me on a stupid nuance like that- you only expose the your insecurities.

2) Apparently tongues do not get caught in cheeks in your part of the world. I never stated that inorganic salts "negate" a dissociative experience. I said "soberness" as a tongue-in-cheek side effect of having less real, active MXE in the weighed out mass than would be anticipated if one were to assume high purity. i.e. Not enough MXE is there to get one off baseline, thus the soberness quip. Jeez. Grow a sense of humor already.

If you have any other issues with my chemistry, process or conclusions, please do take the time to elaborate so you don't come off as a mean schmuck again.

In terms of whether current batches of MXE are contaminated with inorganic salts, I cannot speak for others (of course), but with surety I can say that our last three independently acquired batches have been loaded with salty crap. The residue after basification and organic extraction is decidedly inorganic, and contains no MXE.
 
p00p 4 profit- not in mi nose

Chemically Insane said:
Lmao @reformer... I did that the first time I came across this new chem but now when a package arrives I just dump some in my bullet and have a couple toots... shameful but true lol
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Yeah, I hear ya bra. I was indeed taking the proverbial piss... But, hell, with MXE it's necessary 'round these parts pard'ner!

If the shipment is from the "usual place" and within a few weeks time-frame of the last validated order, then that might warrant a pass on the purity and allergy tests, but man, come on. With the shady dogs running the MiXifiEd show these days, who wants to put those dudes profit/poop up dey noses until they know the purity and strength, right?
 
okay sekio,

Its rare i hole on k, i enjoy the music appreciation and wonkyness alone,
I like to do say, 60mg of Ketamine, to achieve this.

But 3/4 of that dose = 45mg.

I get this effect from mxe at 20mg.

id say 1/3 of your ketamine dose, = your mxe dose (For lower doses anyway)

I try out raving on this stuff tonight lmao.
Will be better than ketamine i think, no constant nasty drips and no constant going to the toilet to bump up more, just longggggggg wonkiness and music appreciation +++
 
darksidedsam said:
I try out raving on this stuff tonight lmao.
Will be better than ketamine i think, no constant nasty drips and no constant going to the toilet to bump up more, just longggggggg wonkiness and music appreciation +++
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I have never had a great appreciation for music when on ketamine- it all sounds a bit hollow, tin-y and distant to me (I don't listen to/like the doof doof) but Methoxetamine is a whole other kettle of fish! It is much kinder to music than ketamine- I find that I get strong aural distortions, for instance echoing/reverb/flanging that (if the music fits, folk would probably sound terrible) adds this certain 'grandiosity' to experincing music.

I've been to a whole bunch of noise/drone/ambient gigs on methoxetamine and for best the possible experience I reccomend getting some earplugs (to protect your precious eardrums- seriously, being deaf sucks) and getting as close as you can to the largest speaker that is touching the ground (i.e. causing the strongest vibrations next to it, even if there is a bigger ceiling mounted speaker), close your eyes and focus on the vibrations of from the music moving through your body. I have had amazing CEV while doing this, it makes just hearing music a transcendent experience. I don't care if it sounds cheesy either, it's something that you just have to experience to understand.

Another incredible thing to experience while on methoxetamine (for those of you who live by the sea)- go down to the seaside and go to the marina where the yachts are moored. If they are like where I am they will not be 'rigid', but rather the walkways have the ability to move up and down with the tide so they are always an equal height next to the yachts. Do NOT stand (learnt this the hard way- you may well loose balance and fall over...luckily I didn't hurt myself/fall into the water), but rather lie down on the walkway and close your eyes- you'll experience weightlessness as you float gently on a platform on the ocean. Once again, I've had amazing CEV while doing this. I also should note that I had a sober buddy/impromptu trip sitter with me when which is why I went to the waterfront- I don't reccomend going into public and lying down on walkways while on dissociatives alone! To do so is to beg the cops to arrest you and ask a whole fuck-ton of questions.

And Seiko- Usually I agree with you and I'm not trying to call you out or anything, but I think that it is irresponsible to give dosage suggestions based on peoples normal ketamine dosage. I know I've banged on about this many times, but 'methoxetamine' is a bullshit marketing term, MXE is 3'-MeO-2-Oxo-PCE while ketamine is 2'-Cl-2-Oxo-PCM- there are some similarities, but a hell of a lot of differences.

I don't think that anyone, even someone who has a lot of experience with Ketamine, should take more than 50mg for their initial intranasal dose (after allergy tests, blah blah). It may be 'about 3-4 times as strong as ketamine', but it has a completely different dose/response curve to ketamine as well as a completely different comeup and duration- the fact that it also lasts expotentially longer the higher you dose could lead to a situation where someone who is experienced with ketamine takes 150mg believing that he will be trashed for 4-5 hours, then he can go to sleep and wake up ready for work only to find that he is completely unable to sleep and tripping balls for 12 hours+.
 
Another incredible thing to experience while on methoxetamine (for those of you who live by the sea)- go down to the seaside and go to the marina where the yachts are moored. If they are like where I am they will not be 'rigid', but rather the walkways have the ability to move up and down with the tide so they are always an equal height next to the yachts. Do NOT stand (learnt this the hard way- you may well loose balance and fall over...luckily I didn't hurt myself/fall into the water), but rather lie down on the walkway and close your eyes- you'll experience weightlessness as you float gently on a platform on the ocean. Once again, I've had amazing CEV while doing this. I also should note that I had a sober buddy/impromptu trip sitter with me when which is why I went to the waterfront- I don't reccomend going into public and lying down on walkways while on dissociatives alone! To do so is to beg the cops to arrest you and ask a whole fuck-ton of questions
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I live near one of those!!!!
But i dont wanna dose as high as that =S

, As for music appreciation,
I listen to Hard house, hard trance and Hardstyle (my favourite out of the 3) on ketamine,
Foook me its wonderful, the hardstyle is the best its like it tells a story to me then the loud bass noise just sounds amazing and echoes through my brain lol
 
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A lot of the MXE stateside is total shit right now, and probably dangerous.

If it tastes like salt, or has crystal chunks in it, be very careful with the stuff. It is probably not even MXE at all.
 
darksidedsam said:
As for music appreciation,
I listen to Hard house, hard trance and Hardstyle (my favourite out of the 3) on ketamine,
Foook me its wonderful, the hardstyle is the best its like it tells a story to me then the loud bass noise just sounds amazing and echoes through my brain lol
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I got similar taste in music, ket is great, esp for hardhouse, but with mxe i got problem that it makes the bass sound very flat :(
ps. i hope you are listening to real hardstyle not nu-style shite ala HHZ :P
 
YaniCZka said:
I got similar taste in music, ket is great, esp for hardhouse, but with mxe i got problem that it makes the bass sound very flat :(
ps. i hope you are listening to real hardstyle not nu-style shite ala HHZ :P
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I dont know how you guys can enjoy house it fuck ups my low and high frequencies, specifically high frequencies get annihilated (imagine vacuum sound without 80% hiss). Its the only think i really dont like with K, cant hear my music properly. :|
 
bluedolphin said:
A lot of the MXE stateside is total shit right now, and probably dangerous.

If it tastes like salt, or has crystal chunks in it, be very careful with the stuff. It is probably not even MXE at all.
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True. Mine is 50:50 MXE:Tiletamine. Please beware, it's easy to differ one from another tho. If it doesn't work at above threshold dose, it's mixed or not MXE at all. Also, Tiletamine doesn't give any insight into what you've done or about your life. It's easier to blackout on MXE than on Tiletamine. Tiletamine gives horrible comedown, making you loop in what you see, it's really terrifying. Also, while both MXE and T can produce that effect, it's very visible on lower doses of Tiletamine (~50mg) - you'd be tripping on MXE on such dose while Tiletamine easily makes small objects look big and vice versa.

Also, my mix tastes like... Well, MXE mixed with salt. That's why I was so unsure about whether it's fake or not, because it tasted a little like MXE to me. Tiletamine is more salt-ish in look, while good MXE can be very fluffy.

If you've got the fluff, it's most likely NOT Tiletamine.
 
fly- said:
I dont know how you guys can enjoy house it fuck ups my low and high frequencies, specifically high frequencies get annihilated (imagine vacuum sound without 80% hiss). Its the only think i really dont like with K, cant hear my music properly. :|
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Whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa.
K and Mxe affect my hearing, in a sense i can imagine an Equaliser in my brain and someone is turning the bass up, But the treble can sound a bit tinny,
So i wear ear plugs that are just for noise reduction and hey ho, Wonky donky on the dancefloor!
Ill let yous know what i think of Mxe at a rave
 
Excited to finally have some MXE headed my way, I expect to really enjoy it :)
 
under the influence of mxe right now so excuse my typing. something about this drug just doesn't sit right. it feels like it is setting up a trip that never materalises. granted i've been eyeballing the stuff, so I'm not too sure what doses i've been doing.

I do a line (that i assume is around 20-30mg, could be way out) and lie down in my bed, put on a nice playlist of psybient or some other trippy shit and after a while begin to disassociate, it feels good, but it's a bit muddy, the music doesn't transport me to and through an environment built from sound the same way ketamine does. all the same feelings of being wooooshed back and forth by the tracks, but the edges are somehow sludgyer(not even a word).

Resisted the urge to redose tonight, because my last adventure turned rather manic

I managed to have a phone conversation, was really weird. I knew i was making sense but had to try really hard. feeling kinda jumpy at the moment, definate stimulation, which is odd combined with the dissasosiated confusion.

I'm not quite sure what i'm trying to say, apart from that this doesn't feel as magical as ketamine to me. But other people seem to be getting something out of this that I'm not. What am I missing?

well, I dosed about 2 or 3 hours ago now, so we will see what is to come.
 
sorry for double post but wow, this stuff seems to have a down before an up, really stimulated now. kinda edgy. Does this seem right? if not i suspect what i put up my nose wasn't mxe.
 
^ The key aspects for me are a dissociated feeling, kind of drunk-like feeling during the experience (balance is definitely affected, walking in a straight line can be difficult). At the same time you can feel very "with it" and connected, aware of your surroundings. It can be stimulating or a downer, depending on the situation. For me the comeup sometimes feels a bit like a stimulant come up, and its almost like rolling at points.

Note, this is all from the same batch, I haven't tried different batches.

Very interesting stuff.

Edit: also, if its taken orally (i let it swish around my mouth a bit, has a distinctive chemical tast), it numbs my mouth for a long time (a good portion of the experience). If it doesn't do this, it might not be mxe (or maybe i have something with an added topical anaesthetic). Note that some chems like 2ce have been reported to cause tissue damage if you keep them in contact with mucous membranes (like in your mouth).
 
yucatanboy2 said:
^ The key aspects for me are a dissociated feeling, kind of drunk-like feeling during the experience (balance is definitely affected, walking in a straight line can be difficult). At the same time you can feel very "with it" and connected, aware of your surroundings. It can be stimulating or a downer, depending on the situation. For me the comeup sometimes feels a bit like a stimulant come up, and its almost like rolling at points.

Note, this is all from the same batch, I haven't tried different batches.

Very interesting stuff.

Edit: also, if its taken orally (i let it swish around my mouth a bit, has a distinctive chemical tast), it numbs my mouth for a long time (a good portion of the experience). If it doesn't do this, it might not be mxe (or maybe i have something with an added topical anaesthetic). Note that some chems like 2ce have been reported to cause tissue damage if you keep them in contact with mucous membranes (like in your mouth).
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This is reassuring, what you describe, especially the bit about being aware of your surroundings, is in line with what i have experienced. Although, I feel much more like I'm rolling now (as opposed to a few hours ago) but that could just be me, or the setting, or the dose, etc.

I havn't yet tried an oral ROA, I will try this next time, to see if i experience this numbess.

Thank you for your response
 
1st time tried 15mg oral like I do everything else, kinda as a baseline run. Felt a TINY bit of some wierd intoxication 2-5 hours later. Very tired and "zonked." Slept a LONG LONG time next day and had a zombie-like hangover after getting up with NO motivation whatsoever for anything. But the from 2 days after dose, to 4-5 days after I just bounded out of bed with limitless enthusiasm for what I knew I was capable of accomplishing.

Odd yin/yang with this one. I think I will dub MXE "YinAndYang."

Anyway, it's Saturday, Monday a holiday, the weather is a BEAUTIFUL almost full moon early fall evening after a string of 80 degree Indian Summer days, uncommonly wonderous weather. What better time to sit around feeling buzzed anesthetized into an inability to think anything but "Mmmmmmmmm."? I can't think of one. Took 20mg sublingual after mouthwash this time. Starting 20 min later began feeling that pleasant mild intoxication but stronger and clearer this time. Nice. Watching Harry's Law right now, after that gonna go out on the porch for a cig while gazing at the moon admidst my smoke trails.

~IDYLLIC~
 
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