The Big & Dandy Methoxetamine Thread - 4th Dose (don't overdose)

[socalthizzn]

i've noticed that mxe has become rather clumpy in my little glass jar home over the past month. i guess i need to find a couple of those little moisture control pouches to toss in there. hope it is ok to ask but does anyone know where to get those things?

These?

NSFW:

Available in most local smokeshops.

Over 72% humidity it absorbs, under 72% and it moistens. Keeps mine nice n fine.

 

[socalthizzn]

Why is there so much mention of seratonin syndrome with MXE. It doesn't act on seratonin thus should not be an issue. How is it causing SS then?
IMHO what some ppl are refering to as SS I would call an uncomfortable trip and a lot of ppl reporting SS are a) not familiar with the effects of dissociatives and b) not familiar with SS. SS is deadly in a lot of casEs. It seems like it's just a catch word for the MXE kids.

My thoughts exactly.

 

[socalthizzn]

There do seem to be a lot of people combining MXE with various monamine releasers & not reporting problems. The MXE/MDAI overdose death was the result of around 100mg MXE & roughly half a gram of MDAI being injected intravenously. This is a ridiculous dose and an incredibly stupid thing to do, and trying to extrapolate pharmacological action from that incident is ill-advised at best.

Thats so much drugs no wonder they overdosed.

 

[Vader]

^You know you can use the "Edit" button to add to your posts rather than quadruple-posting?

 

[socalthizzn]

^You know you can use the "Edit" button to add to your posts rather than quadruple-posting?

Iphone man sorry. Its virtually impossible for me to do with any ease.
So quadruple posts it is :/

To put 4 quotes in one post from iphone is soooo much work. I dont get a scroll bar over -->
At all.

 

[Cyanoide]

One thing which is strange for me is how smaller amounts sometimes are more powerful than larger doses. A few days ago I snorted 18 mg which was a surprisingly strong experience, I was feeling very dissociated and disconnected. Actually the only experience which was more powerful was 60 mg, when I felt like I was covered in silicone and the whole world somehow became a mirror of myself.

Strange, usually I enjoy doses of approx. 30 mg, now 18 mg snorted blew me away.

 

[Mercc96]

Same man ^ I've had 30mg doses feel pretty boring and then a 10mg dose on another day thats kicked me in the jaw. Intresting stuff

 

[e1evene1even]

Didn't have as much luck last night with MXE but I think setting and dosage timing were the biggest factors.

The key I think is to take the first dose of MXE early enough to time the 'afterglow'/stimulation for when you want to be partying.

Last night I took it a little to late and ending up in a jampacked venue that was uncomfortably hot while still in the dissociative stage. I spent a lot of time wandering around as it was too hot to dance. At 3am I was going to go home but was just starting to get where I wanted to be so I stayed and luckily the party went late till after 5 and I had a great last couple hours as the crowd and heat died down.

Overall not as much fun as the previous night, but probably better than if I tried to take MDMA or a psychedelic two nights in a row and I don't know if any type of tolerance was at play or if it was just timing/setting...
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As for the ketamine/gray matter study mentioned in the previous thread, while I haven't read it yet, if I remember correctly I think it was mentioned that free radicals could be involved so as a precaution I've been pre-dosing with NAC which is a potent free radical scavenger/ glutathione precursor.

Since it also helps prevent tinnitus as well as alcohol toxicity I believe it could be one of the best harm reduction supplements for club environments (though whether it helps for MDMA is debatable).

Can anyone think of a reason this might not be advisable?

 

[twelvesevndi]

A question for atara, how sure are we that this is a dopamine agonist?

(i know i'm not atara, but) i think its assumed to be a Dopamine Reuptake Inhibitor. because we

guess it acts similarly to other NMDA agonists.

specifically pcp/pce

Imax hubble on blu ray last night on mxe.. fuckin wow!

yes! i watched this while coming up on 2c-e and mxe. was fucking awesome!!!
the bits where you fly through the universe.... aww yeah

also re: dubstep and MXE...here's 50 pages of people dubstep and ket...
stuff like datsik and rusko are just the tip of the iceberg btw....there's actually interesting and informed music coming out of the dubstep scene. its not all just crazy midrange drug music :D
http://dubstepforum.com/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=59412
http://dubstepforum.com/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=3318

 

[socalthizzn]

I assume that mxe effects dopamine because of a) The euphoria matces up perfectly with other stimulants (even mdma after the peak effects of it have worn off) B) it leaves me with a stimulated feeling throughout similar to mdma after the peak effects of it have worn off, cocaine, low dose meth/amp wich i believe is a side effect of dopamine release? C) methoxetamine.
This is just my theory im not claiming to be facts.

 

[csrpj]

i'm about to try this substance for the first time next week, and will certainly report back on my experiences, especially regarding the aspect i'm most interested in: has anyone experienced positive, permanent, personality or spiritual or emotional shifts in their life (or lack thereof)? in the previous thread, there was talk about this... i recall one user who said he examined various people's experienced and found that MXE has more potential than ibogaine for therapeutic/cathartic purposes. i hate to repeated this, lest i am providing false hope for many as i myself have experienced. anyway, that comment really intrigued me, and i'd love to take this opportunity in posting towards the beginning of a probably very long thread to introduce this potential facet of MXE. any comments of using this tool for healing?

 

[twelvesevndi]

re: DRI or DA action... no citation on the Ket or PCP wiki for DRI action but there is a reference for them acting as partial D2 agonists. :embarrassed:

 

[suckerbunnie]

has more potential than ibogaine for therapeutic/cathartic purposes. any comments of using this tool for healing?

It can be as powerful or useful as ibogiane in this respect if that is one's intention.

 

[oSpherical]

My mind was blown last night... truly blown.
I forgot how much of an adventure this stuff can take you on. After a month and a half break, a 40mg dose was far more powerful than it ought to have been.
What would usually have been a boring night was transformed into a breathtaking adventure thanks to MXE.

That said, I'm still very concerned about the neurotoxicity claims, which dampers my enjoyment a fair bit...

 

[csrpj]

It can be as powerful or useful as ibogiane in this respect if that is one's intention.

it certainly is the main intention for me. any set/setting recommendations for these purposes? (i'm guessing pitch black, maybe with music, is best.) what about dosage - i'm guessing this effect comes from a high dose?

 

[suckerbunnie]

That set and setting is fine. Basically, whatever one is comfortable with, though indoors is recomended for high-dose and non-social experiments. Doasge for this should be relatively high if not familiar with material, though this dependant also on ROA. I prefer 50-60mg IM for this and oral or sublingual would be higher. Very good stuff for eliminating negative thought patterns and providing motivation, and also seems to have physical healing qualities though this is likely more dependant on mind/body in coordination/cooperation

 

[Methox23]

i'm about to try this substance for the first time next week, and will certainly report back on my experiences, especially regarding the aspect i'm most interested in: has anyone experienced positive, permanent, personality or spiritual or emotional shifts in their life (or lack thereof)? in the previous thread, there was talk about this... i recall one user who said he examined various people's experienced and found that MXE has more potential than ibogaine for therapeutic/cathartic purposes. i hate to repeated this, lest i am providing false hope for many as i myself have experienced. anyway, that comment really intrigued me, and i'd love to take this opportunity in posting towards the beginning of a probably very long thread to introduce this potential facet of MXE. any comments of using this tool for healing?

just make sure you dont take to much... i bombed quite a big dose, then went for a walk... basically it hit me far to hard hard i couldnt walk lol well fucked..(thought i was gonna die) ended up blacking out on the pavement luckily i was with a friend and called someone to rescue us lol... just a word of warning keep the dose lowish..it was at night.. i haven't dosed since that happened..really scary experience...But I learned my lesson, Not to drop large amounts of MXE and go outside!! But am gonna try a small dose (oral) soon... by far the most awful experience i have had with MXE.....

 

[Vader]

I assume that mxe effects dopamine because ...C) methoxetamine.

Are you honestly suggesting that the presence of the morpheme "meth" in a drug's trivial name is a reliable guide to its dopaminergic activity?

 

[socalthizzn]

Uhhh yea.

 

[Frogster]

NONSENSE Disclaimer: Unplugging for a while...

Took the Airline Flight Nr.7 with molecular Methyl-Oxy-Amine-Flux-Capacitor propulsion to stay a good while in MXEco for Eastern.

Now heading back with Submarine Diveline Nr.2 with nuclear PirateCTam-QuietAPin-SirTransLine propulsion to JAHpan for Christmas.