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The Big & Dandy Methoxetamine Thread - 4th Dose (don't overdose)

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ive said this before but im bored so i'll say it again, this drug is very strange in many ways, but also amazing.

sometimes it feels like it mimics other drugs, ive had mdma like euphoria from it, a DMT body high from it, slow relaxing "nodding" which i imagine the opiate type feeling which other people have described, it also seems to amplify alcohol which can get pretty fucked up. sometimes it makes everything feel epic. completely connected with everything, deep intricate conversations with people, open right up. other times it gets confusing. the last time i took it i told my friends girlfriend that i feel like a piece of spaghetti with down syndrome... very strange. then apparently i started dancing around because i felt like i was underwater. for me there always seems to be an aspect of euphoric anti anxiety effects present, so no matter how trippy it gets i just ride with it without getting worried or concerned. it also makes me giggle and smile alot, and i feel numb and slow. another nice part about this drug is as mentioned by other people, the long calming relaxing anti-depressant effect which ive personally known to last for weeks.

the down sides ive found with this are feeling thick as shit, and headaches

ive used this stuff perhaps around 10 times dose range from 50/100mg and i do not feel compelled to abuse it, or even do it again. i can give or take it, as to be honest its quite fucking weird sometimes. and i act like a retard on it
 
Everyone watch this while researching MXE!!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IZ-D6JNlnY4&feature=related

and then you can find the links for the other parts on the side.

If your wondering what the video is its

The Blue Planet - The Deep

it is recordings of the furthest underwater that has ever been travelled and recorded, and has all kinds of fish or alien like life forms several several thousand feet under the water. Some are just RIDICULOUS alien like, it is so insane and one of the most fun experiences I have had, because this stuff looks like it shouldnt even exist.
 
I do not like this substance. It makes my face tingle, but in an overwhelming and uncomfortable way. i've blacked out on it a couple of times from doing to high dosages. silly me! I'll just stick to good ol' k
 
valae said:
I do not like this substance. It makes my face tingle, but in an overwhelming and uncomfortable way. i've blacked out on it a couple of times from doing to high dosages. silly me! I'll just stick to good ol' k
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then dont do such high doses lol.....

ur prolly trying to do same amount as when u do k, which this is more potent per mg
 
Well I'm back.

After foolishly OD'ing the first time I got hold of this stuff, I waited a couple of weeks and bought some more.

Went down to the beach (I live on the seafront) and made myself comfortable in the pebbles with a bottle of pink wine for company after a few insufflated doses.

It was lovely. I felt wonderfully open and happy and couldn't get enough of the beautiful sea and sky scene before me. With a hoodie sleeve over my eyes I laid back and embraced the sun to find a marvellously epic almost-trip fully embrace me. It was just NICE.

I'm really keen to hear from people who rate this for its antidepressant qualities because I have had some great fun and really hope this isn't just a one off
 
Frankie Moonshine said:
Well I'm back.

After foolishly OD'ing the first time I got hold of this stuff, I waited a couple of weeks and bought some more.

Went down to the beach (I live on the seafront) and made myself comfortable in the pebbles with a bottle of pink wine for company after a few insufflated doses.

It was lovely. I felt wonderfully open and happy and couldn't get enough of the beautiful sea and sky scene before me. With a hoodie sleeve over my eyes I laid back and embraced the sun to find a marvellously epic almost-trip fully embrace me. It was just NICE.

I'm really keen to hear from people who rate this for its antidepressant qualities because I have had some great fun and really hope this isn't just a one off
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its perfect and is the pinnacle of all substances. no joke. sorry for ur od the first time, but im sure you have come to terms that it was your own fault. Keep respecting this one and it will reward you EVERY time. Take it from me and 30 people i know personally who love it
 
Alldaykk said:
its perfect and is the pinnacle of all substances. no joke. sorry for ur od the first time, but im sure you have come to terms that it was your own fault. Keep respecting this one and it will reward you EVERY time. Take it from me and 30 people i know personally who love it
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OK then... since amounts people are doing are all over the map from 10mg to over a gram (!), what would you suggest to a first timer do oral (swallow)? I do not like snorting as it hurts and WILL NOT snort this, besides many have said it works just the same swallowed as snorted.

So, start with 10? 20? 25?
 
If I could go back and have my first time all over again, I'd do 15mg plugged. And plugging is the only ROA I'd ever use.

If you must eat it, the contents of your stomach are a problem.
 
I'll try 20mg on a totally empty stomach. Multiple people including mods with a massive amount of experience have said oral is as good as any other way, so I tend to believe them, but I know some people vastly prefer plugging over every other route for every substance, but it's just not my idea of how to start a good fun time. Thanks for the advice, though, to each his own.
 
Indeed, each to their own. Just be warned that if you have things in your stomach it can delay the onset by a good hour or so and weaken the effects. Oral definitely works it's just less reliable a trajectory.

By the way, plugging sounds like it's going to take time and be complicated and messy but it really doesn't! Its weird just how clean the rectum is between "movements" and how quickly the procedure is done. Takes about two minutes including washing the equipment. Also you don't need an oral syringe or any other kind of syringe, the dropper from a dropper bottle works just fine, and I'm sure other things can be improvised.

Finally, the reasons why the doses are all over the map is mostly down to tolerance, start low if you're not dissociative-tolerant. It sounds like you have a plan though.
 
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If I had to pick an uncomfortable part of the experience, it would be the comeup, but only if I had gone a day or more without doseing. Maintaining the afterglow is the most unique quality of this substance. I have learned that the uncomfortable comeup can be completely eliminated by doseing very small(5-10mg) every hour or two until you are in a state that you enjoy. For those who decide to dose again on the 2nd day, you can increase the starting dose by 5mg and slowly work your way up. Regaurdless of how high I dose, the afterglow is just around the corner. Dosing low is the trick with this one guys even though I personally enjoy a moderately high 50mg dose every once and awhile, preferably ON the afterglow.
 
^that sounds like a good way to build up tolerance to me

i don't mind the "come up"... after dosing sublingually i occupy myself by reading while listening to music... eventually i feel my brain fuzz out a little and the music becomes more important than the book... that's when i put it down and try walking, and i notice that my legs are rubbery and dancing feels excellent! for me, it seems the confusion comes around later on, with redoses making it worse.

dwane, i'd suggest 20mg sublingual for a first go. the taste is not that bad, and the numbing radiates from mouth to brain to toes :) don't hit the weed until you feel effects of the MXE begin to fade, just so you get a good feel of it by itself. there's always next trip for the ultimate wub-wub tiems.
 
DwayneHoover said:
OK then... since amounts people are doing are all over the map from 10mg to over a gram (!), what would you suggest to a first timer do oral (swallow)? I do not like snorting as it hurts and WILL NOT snort this, besides many have said it works just the same swallowed as snorted.

So, start with 10? 20? 25?
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I have never dosed oral (swallowed). What i would dose is SUBLINGUAL. So pour it under your tounge, hold it for a full minute or two, and then literally swish it around your mouth. EMBRACE THE FLAVOR!!! Its literally only 1/20th as bad as a roll at most, just a bit bitter is all, and the flavor does NOT linger.

Make sure it all absorbs thru the mouth, to ensure passage thru the blood brain barrier, and since anything that swallowed the gut will eliminate some of the potency.

At sublingual for your first time EVER, I would really recommend 30-40mg in one go, no redose. The reason being is this will give you a strong idea of what MXE is and what it is capable of, but is not likely to hole you. You should feel strong euphoria, it should last a while, and a lot of new sensations in your body including a new body high, epiphanies galore in your thought processing.

Once again 40mg is no joke what 30 or more people I know have started on and almost unanimously it is the perfect dose. 90% report it is was the PERFECT dose and they loved it and its their favorite now and want more, 5% said it was fun but a little overpowering and they felt floored but still had fun, and 5% reported it not being strong enough and they didnt feel it too much.

I would say if your really skeptical of substances and are worried start with 30mg, if you are comfortable with substances, and have a good environment and are looking for a good time, start with 40mg.

Dont even worry about being KO Floored or holed until the 50-60mg range, and once again this is all based on no tolerance.

I have a small tolerance, nothing too major, but for example i would add 10-20mg for all these ranges for myself.
 
Alldaykk said:
I have never dosed oral (swallowed). What i would dose is SUBLINGUAL. So pour it under your tounge, hold it for a full minute or two, and then literally swish it around your mouth. EMBRACE THE FLAVOR!!! Its literally only 1/20th as bad as a roll at most, just a bit bitter is all, and the flavor does NOT linger.

Make sure it all absorbs thru the mouth, to ensure passage thru the blood brain barrier, and since anything that swallowed the gut will eliminate some of the potency.

At sublingual for your first time EVER, I would really recommend 30-40mg in one go, no redose. The reason being is this will give you a strong idea of what MXE is and what it is capable of, but is not likely to hole you. You should feel strong euphoria, it should last a while, and a lot of new sensations in your body including a new body high, epiphanies galore in your thought processing.

Once again 40mg is no joke what 30 or more people I know have started on and almost unanimously it is the perfect dose. 90% report it is was the PERFECT dose and they loved it and its their favorite now and want more, 5% said it was fun but a little overpowering and they felt floored but still had fun, and 5% reported it not being strong enough and they didnt feel it too much.

I would say if your really skeptical of substances and are worried start with 30mg, if you are comfortable with substances, and have a good environment and are looking for a good time, start with 40mg.

Dont even worry about being KO Floored or holed until the 50-60mg range, and once again this is all based on no tolerance.

I have a small tolerance, nothing too major, but for example i would add 10-20mg for all these ranges for myself.
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and if ur depressed like me cuz ur gf is prolly breaking up with you two days after u make it official and all your friends find out about your new relationship, only to have to explain that to them when half of them personally know your gf as well as you, 80mg sounds really delicious!
 
Need some experienced estimations ...

After 25mg of mxe at 12am/1pm/2pm/3pm administered rectally - makes a total of 100mg - i've planned to take some methylone (and maybe later some 2c-i or -e) in the evening.

Now, 4h after the last 25mg dose of mxe, i'm feelin' sober and my personal instinct tells me that it is OK to do some methylone in ... let's say ... 2h. But what do you think resp. what is your instinct or better your experiences tellin' you about that?

Do you think the serotonic-blablub (nari, nsri and/or what mxe might be) last that long, so that there is a notable danger by dosing some methylone afterwards?

In the past i did some mdma, acid and 2cb ~5h after having a single dose of 30mg mxe (rectally) and never had any problems ...

So the question is ... how do your experiences look like concerning the undoubtedly not quite wise even so comprehensible decision to do stims like methylone some hours after a low- to medium-dose mxe-session?

o/
 
anima said:
Need some experienced estimations ...

After 25mg of mxe at 12am/1pm/2pm/3pm administered rectally - makes a total of 100mg - i've planned to take some methylone (and maybe later some 2c-i or -e) in the evening.

Now, 4h after the last 25mg dose of mxe, i'm feelin' sober and my personal instinct tells me that it is OK to do some methylone in ... let's say ... 2h. But what do you think resp. what is your instinct or better your experiences tellin' you about that?

Do you think the serotonic-blablub (nari, nsri and/or what mxe might be) last that long, so that there is a notable danger by dosing some methylone afterwards?

In the past i did some mdma, acid and 2cb ~5h after having a single dose of 30mg mxe (rectally) and never had any problems ...

So the question is ... how do your experiences look like concerning the undoubtedly not quite wise even so comprehensible decision to do stims like methylone some hours after a low- to medium-dose mxe-session?

o/
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all i have to say is.. thats a lot of stimulation!!! Your blood pressures gonna get high
 
Vader said:
tbh, I've noticed no additional efficacy over oral from sublingual.
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but did you do legit sublingual? legit sublingual is swishing that around in ur mouth embracing the bitterness until you cant even taste it anymore yet never swallowed, most people chicken out (not saying you do, just saying most people i know in person) and swish it for a minute maybe even two minutes, then swallow it. At that point 50% or more gets orally ingested anyway.

If you want to really get sublingual its like a full 5 minute process of bitter sourness, but well worth it :)
 
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