The Big & Dandy Methoxetamine Thread - 2nd Dissociation
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I'd be reluctant to try stimulant combos myself. It's already stimulating, and capable of producing all manner of effects given the right setting. On MXE alone I felt my head fizz like I was on a decent pill, this was brought on by listening to the right music.
hamhurricane
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It produced a manic high that I found extremely euphoric, much closer to 3-MeO-PCP than to ketamine in terms of subjective effects. Although I doubt that either receptor plays a significant role in the pharmacology, it feels more like a DARI than a MOR agonist. I was literally on the floor doing pushups to expend the energy. Raised my body temperature enough to sit shirtless comfortably in an apartment that was 59 degrees. The comedown left me feeling a bit dumb. Insomnia afterwards was bothersome, I would consider using this one in the daylight.
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Using this stuff in the daylight is beautiful. Just the added depth it gives to the clouds is enough to make me want to cook some up, but alas I have shit to do. I have developed a tolerance to this stuff and 20-30mg IM only lasts for an hour or two, but it's very nice. Originally 40mg IM was enough to put me into a hole. I'm taking a break for a week. This stuff is pretty fiendish for me and has done very strange things to me.
At one point I holed multiple times in a row and I had the feeling that a cheese pizza was taken from my soul and I was certainly lacking for it. It also makes me want to socialize in some of the most nonsense ways as I remember typing up a text message to someone I haven't talked to in a year to tell them that I farted. I didn't send it, because I realized I just wanted a conversation with them and that I was going about it in a way that was not conducive to anything productive. This stuff makes me act very weird to my girlfriend and she can always tell when I'm fucked up on it because of the shit I say. I was hearing the rhythms in everything spoken and latching onto them and rolling around with them, bouncing my voice around conversations.
For the past couple days I've only been using very small doses, albeit repeatedly, because, like I said, I have shit to do. Putting this stuff in the freezer and I think I'll figure out my preferred way of playing with it later. I need to avoid getting on some nonsense.
At one point I holed multiple times in a row and I had the feeling that a cheese pizza was taken from my soul and I was certainly lacking for it. It also makes me want to socialize in some of the most nonsense ways as I remember typing up a text message to someone I haven't talked to in a year to tell them that I farted. I didn't send it, because I realized I just wanted a conversation with them and that I was going about it in a way that was not conducive to anything productive. This stuff makes me act very weird to my girlfriend and she can always tell when I'm fucked up on it because of the shit I say. I was hearing the rhythms in everything spoken and latching onto them and rolling around with them, bouncing my voice around conversations.
For the past couple days I've only been using very small doses, albeit repeatedly, because, like I said, I have shit to do. Putting this stuff in the freezer and I think I'll figure out my preferred way of playing with it later. I need to avoid getting on some nonsense.
Shambles
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Interesting that you compared it to 3-MeO-PCP. If I had to make comparisons I'd tend to agree with you there - definitely got more of a 3-MeO-PCP vibe to it than a ketamine vibe. Oddly. Or not oddly. Know nowt about chemistry so couldn't say but I can definitely see what you meant.
seagal26
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I will finally be trying this tonight, and I will probably skip the allergy test... I am excited!
nanoshot
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amanitadine
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Yup yup yup. That 3-MeO group really changes things in a very distinctive way. To me it most certainly feels like the Keto version of 3-Meo PCE. Imagine that!
Shambles
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Yup yup yup. That 3-MeO group really changes things in a very distinctive way. To me it most certainly feels like the Keto version of 3-Meo PCE. Imagine that!
Funnily enough I combo'd Methox with 3-MeO-PCE when I first got some (was my birthday and was on a bit of an extended dissociative binge). Not quite the same thing but they did play nice together. An "all in one" version (yes, even with my chemistry "knowledge" I know that's not quite how it works
) sounds like a winner to me :D
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Going to be trying this with my woman soon... Neither of us have ever done a dissociative. To start with I want us to try it on the low end, just to get a taste. I'm thinking we'll each do 10mg sublingual and augment with weed and beer. Thoughts?
How bad is the taste when taken sublingually? How long should I wait before swallowing? How long should I wait before redosing (if it's not strong enough), and how much should I redose with?
Finally, what kind of tolerance does this stuff build? Can it be taken two nights in a row? What's the ideal time between..?
How bad is the taste when taken sublingually? How long should I wait before swallowing? How long should I wait before redosing (if it's not strong enough), and how much should I redose with?
Finally, what kind of tolerance does this stuff build? Can it be taken two nights in a row? What's the ideal time between..?
Shambles
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Weed is good (for me at least - some are less keen on the combo). Beer is less good - really bad mix with dissociatives and this one is no exception. If you must drink then keep it minimal cos alcohol + dissociative = pukefest.
It tastes of salt and if it's right under your tongue the taste should be very minimal. It's not bad tasting anyway. Unless you hate salt. Keep it under your tongue as long as you can before swallowing - 10mg should absorb pretty damn quick. Redosing is trick as it can take a fairly long time to kick in (up to an hour) although some find sublingual kicks in much faster than that. As you're new to dissociatives I'd maybe stick to 10mg redoses if required. Or start of at 20mg as most find that a fairly mild but enjoyable trip.
Tolerance builds quickly and leaves slowly. Two (or even a few more) nights in succession shouldn't be any problem though - it's more chronic dosing that ramps tolerance up. Using daily for any period of time will obviously produce tolerance. A coupla back to back sessions infrequently should be no problem at all though.
Enjoy
It tastes of salt and if it's right under your tongue the taste should be very minimal. It's not bad tasting anyway. Unless you hate salt. Keep it under your tongue as long as you can before swallowing - 10mg should absorb pretty damn quick. Redosing is trick as it can take a fairly long time to kick in (up to an hour) although some find sublingual kicks in much faster than that. As you're new to dissociatives I'd maybe stick to 10mg redoses if required. Or start of at 20mg as most find that a fairly mild but enjoyable trip.
Tolerance builds quickly and leaves slowly. Two (or even a few more) nights in succession shouldn't be any problem though - it's more chronic dosing that ramps tolerance up. Using daily for any period of time will obviously produce tolerance. A coupla back to back sessions infrequently should be no problem at all though.
Enjoy
pofacedhoe
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yeah if you are gonna drink, have sips of beer and stop when you feel monged. i had beer with it a couple of times, just remember they have a powerful vegetable synergy
one of my friends drank two bottles of wine and had lines of methoxetamine and 30mg of valium, lets just say i've never seen more retarded walking in my whole life
one of my friends drank two bottles of wine and had lines of methoxetamine and 30mg of valium, lets just say i've never seen more retarded walking in my whole life
Really don't mix it with beer. Dissociatives are bad with alcohol on the whole, but I find MXE is much worse than K. Drink juice, or water, or something. If you've never had a dissociative before, I personally wouldn't mix it with anything.
nanoshot
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Ok, someone please help me out here, thanks! I took another trip on MXE last night, safely. At 5pm I did a 25mg sublingual dose just to see what you all are so exited about. After the come up, about 1/2hr, I was feeling great. It was a very beautiful, pleasant feeling. Props to you all that just do small oral doses! No CEV’s but just felt great while watching TV. I had to steer clear of the TV show “COPS” because I didn’t need any flashbacks of police activity in my brain while under IM’s MXE doses. I would hate to get cought in an endless loop in my brain of a run in with the police, therefore making me ultra paranoid. This wore off totally in 2.5hrs. I will do this again.
I then shot 60mg IM. What I felt was sensory overload. I did not hole and my CEV’s, which I LOVE SO MUCH, were dark. It was like the “backlight” wasn’t on in my head to illuminate my CEV’s to their fullest. This happened to me before when I shot K at a little too high a dose, just before the K-hole dose. I could see them, they changed to the music in my headphones but not like my last trip. What was SO INTERSTING about this trip was the sound of my vocal trance music in my headphones. It was like the music was being spoon fed to me in my mouth and the product was the best tasting sweet, watery ice cream with sugar and honey on it. SO FUCKING AWESOME, the audio. So gel like or watery/glossy with every word understandable and every synth and instrument was alive. I just wish the awesome brilliant lit up closed eye visuals were there too. Mine were there but dim. At least this time I did not beat myself up. I’m learning. I re-dosed after 2 hours with another 50mg but no lit up CEV’s and I was teetering on the edge of that looping mania, lose the plot thing that people talk about. Lucky I only did 50mg as a second dose this time.
I remember my best intense closed eye visuals with no mania/delusions last time was after I took 2 or 3 Estrazolom (a chemical cousin benzo of valium/xanax family). I had IM’d 50mg of MXE about 3 hours after I took my Estrazolom. I felt safe, calm and the most K like intense CEV’s. I have read that when benzos are taken with Ketamine, they calm the mania/psychotrophic part down. Can anyone relate? Is this what I need to do to experience the beautifull CEV’s, take benzos before?
What other drug can anyone suggest to accomplish what I want, the bright, brilliant CEV’s guided by my music. I do not like the feeling that smoking weed gives you by itself, but, if smoking some weed calms down the mania/delirium/mass confusion part, like my benzos seemed to do, therefore allowing the closed eye lit up visuals to happen, then I will force myself to smoke some weed before my MXE trip.
Since I felt like my CEV’s were dim and not as intense as before when I was on benzo’s , perhaps I should drop my IM dose down to 35mg? What do you all think?
I then shot 60mg IM. What I felt was sensory overload. I did not hole and my CEV’s, which I LOVE SO MUCH, were dark. It was like the “backlight” wasn’t on in my head to illuminate my CEV’s to their fullest. This happened to me before when I shot K at a little too high a dose, just before the K-hole dose. I could see them, they changed to the music in my headphones but not like my last trip. What was SO INTERSTING about this trip was the sound of my vocal trance music in my headphones. It was like the music was being spoon fed to me in my mouth and the product was the best tasting sweet, watery ice cream with sugar and honey on it. SO FUCKING AWESOME, the audio. So gel like or watery/glossy with every word understandable and every synth and instrument was alive. I just wish the awesome brilliant lit up closed eye visuals were there too. Mine were there but dim. At least this time I did not beat myself up. I’m learning. I re-dosed after 2 hours with another 50mg but no lit up CEV’s and I was teetering on the edge of that looping mania, lose the plot thing that people talk about. Lucky I only did 50mg as a second dose this time.
I remember my best intense closed eye visuals with no mania/delusions last time was after I took 2 or 3 Estrazolom (a chemical cousin benzo of valium/xanax family). I had IM’d 50mg of MXE about 3 hours after I took my Estrazolom. I felt safe, calm and the most K like intense CEV’s. I have read that when benzos are taken with Ketamine, they calm the mania/psychotrophic part down. Can anyone relate? Is this what I need to do to experience the beautifull CEV’s, take benzos before?
What other drug can anyone suggest to accomplish what I want, the bright, brilliant CEV’s guided by my music. I do not like the feeling that smoking weed gives you by itself, but, if smoking some weed calms down the mania/delirium/mass confusion part, like my benzos seemed to do, therefore allowing the closed eye lit up visuals to happen, then I will force myself to smoke some weed before my MXE trip.
Since I felt like my CEV’s were dim and not as intense as before when I was on benzo’s , perhaps I should drop my IM dose down to 35mg? What do you all think?
incognition
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Re:Alcohol
I like to have a few beers/some wine if i get into that lightheaded hypomanic state after the real trip. Which i do if i redose. But there's absolutely no point in drinking before.
I like to have a few beers/some wine if i get into that lightheaded hypomanic state after the real trip. Which i do if i redose. But there's absolutely no point in drinking before.
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