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The Big & Dandy Methoxetamine Thread - 2nd Dissociation

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175mg of MXE sounds like a very high dose. Do you have a tolerance?



Is plugging really that much stronger than oral or insufflated? I am actually starting to like the bitter taste of MXE, like how I grew to love the taste of coke ;)



I like the taste as well, gotta be said. But when you're insufflating amounts big enough to put you in a hole, the backdrip comes back to haunt you just as you're zoning out. Tends to put me in a bad way at a crucial time. When I plugged MXE, it was like heaven descended upon me out of nowhere.
 
^ Yeah I know what you mean about too much backdrip, especially if its anything over 40mg. I have been putting it under my tongue recently and found the effects tend to be stronger than insufflating.
 
quote: 175mg of MXE sounds like a very high dose. Do you have a tolerance?



i have a bit of tolerance been doing a gram a week of MXE. (will stop after this week and keep it to once a month so i don't lose the magic) but i spread this dose into 3.
 
Ok, I FINALLY got the real deal MXE from another official. In short, this MXE to me is EVERY little bit like K but 1000 times better is EVERY aspect. As long as I have MXE I will never touch K again, and I love K! I am an IM needle person as the ROA. My goals are simple. To take the chemical, enter in a world of the most intense, pleasurable closed eye visuals that are guided entirely by my vocal trance playing in my headphones. I call it the ultimate 3 dimensional movie playing in my mind. To be in “rooms” that are filled in by geometric shapes and textures that have a fluid like appearance. To fly over Las Vegas and New York City at night and look down and see all the lights and buildings as the Google Earth satellite sees them. To be able to zoom down to street level view in my mind and see these city’s in 3 dimensions all in pretty greens and yellows. This is like a plateau of the trip that I most enjoy. It is a plateau before the “hole” experience. The “hole” experience for me is all about life, pro-creation with my beautiful wife, even though we don’t have kids, existence as one with the universe, coming out of my body and being behind myself, kind of like a lot of other peoples “hole” experience. This MXE gave me both all the geometric shapes and brilliant textured rooms and cityscapes as K, but lasted SO MUCH longer!! The problem early on in the trip was that I was still in the mindset of K as far as dosing and re-dosing. Big mistake.

I started off last Thursday night at 7pm with a 25mg nasal dose to see if this MXE was even real because I have had bunk junk before and hadn’t tripped on it yet, so I didn’t know what it was really like. Like I said, I have specific goals for my trip and I am definitely a needle IM person. After 45 minutes from the first 25mg nasal dose, I just felt a little buzzed, no big deal, no nothing, but I knew it was real and it was going to take me somewhere once I loaded it up in the needle. You all who take small nasal doses can enjoy yourself but the magic happens at the IM level.

I then shot 80mg and was right in the SAME EXACT places K takes me as far as just before the “hole”. It was magic and I was so happy that it was EXACTLY like K for me, but it lasted for 3 to 4 solid hours. WOW, what a bang for your buck!! Only on 80mg. Then, I was in the mindset of K and I immeditaly re-dosed with 100mg, as that’s what I would have used with K to put me back where I wanted to be. Not a good idea!! This put me so far into the “hole” that I thought I was never coming out and I thought I kept re-dosing in an endless loop, but that really wasn’t the case. The “hole” was so intense and pleasurable but I was tearing myself up physically. My wife videotaped me in my “hole” experience, and it wasn’t pretty. I had gotten off the couch, ripped my headphones off, tried to walk through the glass coffee table, fell, cut up my forehead, my nose and then was laying on the floor with both feet up on my 50” plasma TV trying to knock it over. Lucky my plasma is 8 yrs old and weighs 110lbs and I wouldn’t budge. I do not remember doing any of this but I do remember where I was in the “hole” as it related to the screams I was letting out and my finger movements. When I was screaming and thrashing about on the floor, that was the part in the “hole” that I was one with the universe pro-creating with my wife, as if I was giving birth, I guess it was the ultimate orgasm. Watching this video being sober gave me the understanding that this cannot be dosed like K and now that is burned in my mind so when I trip again on MXE, I will dose MXE style, NOT K style. I had to watch the video to come to this realization.

So it was like 7am now, 12 hours later and I had shot a total of 180mg over this 12 hours. I wanted to goto bed but couldn’t. I was still seeing beautifull visuals and was wide awake. I took 2 estrazolam, a sleeping pill (a mild xanax) and went to bed. Got up at 3pm that afternoon, not fully rested, and that’s when I watched my video of myself and learned. Then I loaded up only 60mg in the needle and shot, and it took me RIGHT BACK to where I was, on my favorite plateau with the visuals and movies in my head. One of these shots lasts a good 2 hours, intense visual wise for me, so I redosed with 50mg IM after that and went right back to where I was. So PERFECT!!! I could have kept going on like this all night again but I stopped.

The comedown. The comedown is beautiful too. This MXE is one super anti-depressant. My wife had done 25mg nasally the before with me and I could tell she was just being super-nice to everyone the next day. Everything was perfect, but I just didn’t feel all “there” yet. This was Saturday now. I did get those tension headaches in the back of the neck that a lot of people take about, but Tylenol fixes that. They did come back again though. Strange.

About the “opiate” relation. I was addicted to pain pills for 10 yrs (clean for 5 .5 now), so I know my opiates very well as far as their effect on my body. I know all about constipation too from opiates. I have taken some pain pills here and there since being addicted and I immediately would get constipated, immediately. If I took two 5mg percocets now, I would be constipated.This MXE did not constipate me at all. My personal belief is that this MXE is in no way an opiate.
 
Do you think methoxetamine would lend itself to use as an anti-depressant in repeated low doses in the manner possible with ketamine?

I can't compare it with ketamine but can say MXE does work in this way. When I first got it I only used it only like this for almost a week. 2-5mg doses every few hours seemed to work quite well as a mood stabilizer/antidepressant.
 
Ok, I FINALLY got the real deal MXE from another official. In short, this MXE to me is EVERY little bit like K but 1000 times better is EVERY aspect. As long as I have MXE I will never touch K again, and I love K! I am an IM needle person as the ROA. My goals are simple. To take the chemical, enter in a world of the most intense, pleasurable closed eye visuals that are guided entirely by my vocal trance playing in my headphones. I call it the ultimate 3 dimensional movie playing in my mind. To be in “rooms” that are filled in by geometric shapes and textures that have a fluid like appearance. To fly over Las Vegas and New York City at night and look down and see all the lights and buildings as the Google Earth satellite sees them. To be able to zoom down to street level view in my mind and see these city’s in 3 dimensions all in pretty greens and yellows. This is like a plateau of the trip that I most enjoy. It is a plateau before the “hole” experience. The “hole” experience for me is all about life, pro-creation with my beautiful wife, even though we don’t have kids, existence as one with the universe, coming out of my body and being behind myself, kind of like a lot of other peoples “hole” experience. This MXE gave me both all the geometric shapes and brilliant textured rooms and cityscapes as K, but lasted SO MUCH longer!! The problem early on in the trip was that I was still in the mindset of K as far as dosing and re-dosing. Big mistake.

I started off last Thursday night at 7pm with a 25mg nasal dose to see if this MXE was even real because I have had bunk junk before and hadn’t tripped on it yet, so I didn’t know what it was really like. Like I said, I have specific goals for my trip and I am definitely a needle IM person. After 45 minutes from the first 25mg nasal dose, I just felt a little buzzed, no big deal, no nothing, but I knew it was real and it was going to take me somewhere once I loaded it up in the needle. You all who take small nasal doses can enjoy yourself but the magic happens at the IM level.

I then shot 80mg and was right in the SAME EXACT places K takes me as far as just before the “hole”. It was magic and I was so happy that it was EXACTLY like K for me, but it lasted for 3 to 4 solid hours. WOW, what a bang for your buck!! Only on 80mg. Then, I was in the mindset of K and I immeditaly re-dosed with 100mg, as that’s what I would have used with K to put me back where I wanted to be. Not a good idea!! This put me so far into the “hole” that I thought I was never coming out and I thought I kept re-dosing in an endless loop, but that really wasn’t the case. The “hole” was so intense and pleasurable but I was tearing myself up physically. My wife videotaped me in my “hole” experience, and it wasn’t pretty. I had gotten off the couch, ripped my headphones off, tried to walk through the glass coffee table, fell, cut up my forehead, my nose and then was laying on the floor with both feet up on my 50” plasma TV trying to knock it over. Lucky my plasma is 8 yrs old and weighs 110lbs and I wouldn’t budge. I do not remember doing any of this but I do remember where I was in the “hole” as it related to the screams I was letting out and my finger movements. When I was screaming and thrashing about on the floor, that was the part in the “hole” that I was one with the universe pro-creating with my wife, as if I was giving birth, I guess it was the ultimate orgasm. Watching this video being sober gave me the understanding that this cannot be dosed like K and now that is burned in my mind so when I trip again on MXE, I will dose MXE style, NOT K style. I had to watch the video to come to this realization.

So it was like 7am now, 12 hours later and I had shot a total of 180mg over this 12 hours. I wanted to goto bed but couldn’t. I was still seeing beautifull visuals and was wide awake. I took 2 estrazolam, a sleeping pill (a mild xanax) and went to bed. Got up at 3pm that afternoon, not fully rested, and that’s when I watched my video of myself and learned. Then I loaded up only 60mg in the needle and shot, and it took me RIGHT BACK to where I was, on my favorite plateau with the visuals and movies in my head. One of these shots lasts a good 2 hours, intense visual wise for me, so I redosed with 50mg IM after that and went right back to where I was. So PERFECT!!! I could have kept going on like this all night again but I stopped.

The comedown. The comedown is beautiful too. This MXE is one super anti-depressant. My wife had done 25mg nasally the before with me and I could tell she was just being super-nice to everyone the next day. Everything was perfect, but I just didn’t feel all “there” yet. This was Saturday now. I did get those tension headaches in the back of the neck that a lot of people take about, but Tylenol fixes that. They did come back again though. Strange.

About the “opiate” relation. I was addicted to pain pills for 10 yrs (clean for 5 .5 now), so I know my opiates very well as far as their effect on my body. I know all about constipation too from opiates. I have taken some pain pills here and there since being addicted and I immediately would get constipated, immediately. If I took two 5mg percocets now, I would be constipated.This MXE did not constipate me at all. My personal belief is that this MXE is in no way an opiate.

I just wondered the other day how it all turned out for you. :)
 
I can't compare it with ketamine but can say MXE does work in this way. When I first got it I only used it only like this for almost a week. 2-5mg doses every few hours seemed to work quite well as a mood stabilizer/antidepressant.

Thanks. People who use ketamine in this way though report that it flips a switch causing an antidepressant effect that continues for weeks after they stop taking it.

Did you notice anything like this or did the antidepressant effect last only as long as you took it?
 
Nanoshot, glad everything came together for you but, christ, those are some heroic doses! 8o I wouldn't go anywhere near 100mg inter-nasally, let alone 180mg IV. Sweeeeeet Jesus
 
had a blast of this the other night with a friend. i didnt have scales that night but it must have been about 150mgs each over a couple of hours. we both had amazing trips and had `holes`in between... this is nice stuff . love it.

nice thing is I still have quite a bit but no desire to take it for a while :) no fiending...at least for me.
 
I still have quite a bit but no desire to take it for a while :) no fiending...at least for me.

If i take smaller doses i feel i want to redose. But if i do it properly and take 160-180 at once i feel completely satisfied and blissed afterwards. That's a hole in one i guess. :)
 
Thanks. People who use ketamine in this way though report that it flips a switch causing an antidepressant effect that continues for weeks after they stop taking it.

Did you notice anything like this or did the antidepressant effect last only as long as you took it?

The reason I had tried the small, regular doses was to try to manage a hyperactive glutamate system due to gabaergic dysfunction caused by past benzodiazepine use and withdrawal. It did help with some of my symptoms and I eventually realized that it worked better for me when used less often and in larger doses. I thought that maybe the less often dosing worked better because I am sensitive to things, but maybe its not me and just the nature of the substance.

I have noticed antidepressant benefits lasting for days after a single dose and so far I think this works best with doses >10mg. I don't get the antidepressant effect until after it wears off. YMMV though.
 
I transformed into a triangle.

oh and btw. we also smoked weed, first time i combined it with MXE and it totally destroyed reality and sanity for a while...
 
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Bored of this now after maybe 7 to 10 goes.

The insomnia drags on for far too many hours after the effects have worn off.
 
Nanoshot, glad everything came together for you but, christ, those are some heroic doses! 8o I wouldn't go anywhere near 100mg inter-nasally, let alone 180mg IV. Sweeeeeet Jesus

180mg IV? I'd be dead.. lol.. It was a total of 180mg IM over 12 hours, a learning experience, albeit a scary one at one point in time, as seen on my video tape. Now that I'm on track with that letter "K" out of my head, I can dose it right and be safe, MXE style. Theres no need for me to chase after K anymore when this MXE takes the place so perfectly.

One thing, for me, I don't see the need to do any other drugs in combination with MXE. For me, the experience is just so perfect, I don't wanna screw it up.

About the anti-depressant effect, It is Tuesday now and I haven't done MXE since last Friday nite. I still feel like it's a super anti-depressant but I also feel it comes in little "waves" at some times. It's like I'll be perfectly happy at work and then I talk to someone and can feel I get even more happier. It has totally given me even more empathy for my wife, and I don't know how thats possible cause I give her all I got to begin with. Makes me wonder what the double edge is to this sword besides tension headaches and can't sleep without benzos or something afterwords..
 
Has anyone else noticed how the world seems so strange, how mankind behaves in a manic, frenzied manner as if there is something we have to achieve? How power relationships between people are arbitrary and cruel? How we are pitted against one another when we could just be friends? How some people die for no good reason while others have lives of luxury and favour for no good reason?

yes knockando; as usually you are right

we must to step back, back!
 
I had a stronger experience today but not enough to be truly enjoyable but I am starting small and working my way up rather than taking a plunge into the deep end.

Feels good man.
 
Hey guys, quick question. Im on naproxen and amitriptyline for a tension headache type thing and haven't used MXE for a little while , but feel like dosing some now for its antidepressant effects as i am feeling SHIT. Would this be a bad idea? like potential interferences with one another?
 
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